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Master Dao Rin 06-17-03, 03:20 PM	I've been flipping back and forth IMC on storylines involving my Jedi player. He's a consular, but I'm having him do things probably more like guardians should be doing when roving the galaxy and searching for clues to defeat an evil force using sect in my galaxy. Just a question to help my storyline: Do you see Jedi more as monks (and odd-time sheriffs), or more like sheriffs (and monks on the down time)? Personally, I go with the former. I really don't think Jedi rove the galaxy and stick their noses into other people's business; I think almost always the Jedi Council is approached by some outside who requests their aid, at which point - if they decide to help - give a mandate to a Jedi team to go and see what they can do to help. In this light, I think they are more of a "marshal-for-hire". Over the ages, Jedi have done spectacularly in solving problems and righting wrongs for their clients that, nowadays, almost all right-thinking and peaceful beings take it for granted that a Jedi's help is welcomed after the fact, if not tolerated in most cases. In this vein, I challenge the notion that Jedi must always get involved if some crime is being commited in their vicinity. While many Jedi probably feel the need and the obligation to "get involved" in stopping something bad from happening. But, on the other hand, I'm not sure Jedi actually have to do so - especially young Jedi who don't have enough experience and self-control in judging when is the right time to get involved and use their powers and when not to. I wonder if the Council strongly caution's young Jedi apprentices into getting into something that is none of their business ... But what do you think?
Master Dao Rin 06-17-03, 03:34 PM	I thought the D20 stuff was only particular to the SW-RPG. Sorry!
Edymnion 06-17-03, 07:39 PM	Accourding to the movies, the Jedi were the peacekeepers of the galaxy. I'd say they are more Sheriff with some monk in them than Monk with some sheriff in them.
Teh Lurv 06-17-03, 10:54 PM	[Star Wars Geek Mode]If you want to stick to canon, then the Jedi are monks rather than sheriffs. In Ep 4, the Jedi and the force are refered to in the context of a religion. In Ep 5, Luke undergoes physical exercises and meditation to aid his mastery of the force. In Ep 1, we learn that the Jedi are a force that works with, but not controlled by the Republic. Examples of this is when Obiwan and Qui-Gon Jinn stated that they were not planning on releasing slaves on Tatooine (Tatooine in Ep1 technically was a Republic world, but Republic influence there was minimal.) The Jedi only seem to intercede in affairs when it involves their missions or their order, they have no mandate to enforce New Republic laws. If you want to dip into non-canonical (sp?) sources, then according to the various SW campanions, the Jedi originally were a monastic sect. IIRC, some of their members became aware of the force during meditations and spent centuries studying the force until they became something similiar to what is seen in the movies.[/Star Wars Geek Mode] :D
DrakeRunner 06-17-03, 11:01 PM	I'm guessing you mean RotE era. From what Ep 1 and Ep 2 show us, Jedi were quiet, pious, and reflective to themselves and unknowns, but arrogant, crusading, and downright beligerant to others. And for the most part, Jedi do what their superiors tell them to in terms of what the goals they want done are.
sinestus 06-18-03, 01:53 PM	i've always run it as jedi had the Kwai Chang Kain thing going on... they had missions (set by the Order) but as they traveled, it was kinda their duty to right worngs, and bring justice... so while they're not sheriffs, or lawnmen of any sort, they are respected as such (and treated as so) by normal people, espeically in areas with the Republic has less influence... so if it's known that a Jedi is about, people will approach them with problems and the like, as if they were a law enforcement official... and though they might not have the authority to change things... the jedi tend to do what they can.
Leap 06-18-03, 04:24 PM	Sorry to add to the SW geekiness here, but I recall something about the jedi's job being to set the conditions for justice and peace rather than being enforcers of such........... :o
JDRoundtree 06-18-03, 06:47 PM	I've always seen the Jedi as being most like Rangers (from 1st and 2nd edition when they had to be good), with some Samurai thrown in. I agree that they are the peacekeepers, but it seems to me that their authority comes from a moral code (imposed by the force) more than from the code of law, and that those two coincided in the old republic. The notions of the force, as well as the exercises, rituals, etc. are very consistent with martial arts, and eastern philosophy, making them monk like, but most monks, as we knew them in history (and not the kung-fu movies) were somewhat reclusive, and their journies abroad were often for spiritual reasons, and not for the rule of law. Anyway, make a long story short (too late) I think they're like ranger/monks spiritualy based wanderers, who are something of a jack of all trades. Regards, all JD "I base most of my fashion sense on what doesn't itch." -Humphrey Bogart
Demon Lightfoot 06-21-03, 12:26 PM	Hmm, I've always seen them as monkish Samurai with more than a dash of Psion.
Sulgran 06-21-03, 10:03 PM	I guess the closest thing IMO in D&D would be a monk/enchanter. If you were going for a Sith I'd say monk/evoker.
magicmarker13 06-22-03, 08:37 PM	i'm going with psion/ranger on this one... jedi's fight like demons, so does a ranger, skills are important to both the psion and ranger, and finally jedi's and psion, they do that whole mind thing... yeah... that's right... both of them...anyway, my two cents...
Leap 06-23-03, 06:51 AM	I tend to think in terms of: Jedi – Monk/Wizard (Abjuration or Divination focus) On the grounds that; “the jedi uses the force for knowledge and defence, never for attack” (Yoda - although that is BS considering the “push droids into walls” power used in episodes 1 and 2!). Sith – Barbarian/Sorcerer (Evocation or Enchantment focus) On the grounds that; “your anger has made you powerful” (Palpatine to Luke in episode 6).