Can bards have familiars? [Archive] - Wizards Community

Can bards have familiars? [Archive] - Wizards Community

Post/Author/DateTime Post
Sigil_Baram
10-02-06, 07:33 PM I mean I know they don't in RAW but I mean it makes sense to me (maybe Im just crazy). They have more spells then the adept so don't say its their lower spellcasting ability. They wander around alone (wouldn't you like to have a little animal to talk to?) or in a party (so do wizards and sorcerers). They may be slanted toward chaos but are only slightly more so than a sorcerer (because they can't be lawful, and that is only thinking that familiars may be a lawful thing but then whats with Imps).

The only argument I see for them not having one is it would make them over powered. i haven't had time to look here but I've heard them called underpower (tha one0on0one with other classes thing doesn't hold up and Ill explain why if someone asks)

Let's say someone wanted to be a bard that had a familiar. What if anything would you make them give up in return?
Skeeve
10-02-06, 07:46 PM I'd make them give up a third level feat. It's actually in Complete Arcane - called 'Obtain Familiar'.
Sigil_Baram
10-02-06, 08:07 PM I'd make them give up a third level feat. It's actually in Complete Arcane - called 'Obtain Familiar'.

Would they get it at first level though?
Or at least have all their bard levels count?
Fithero
10-02-06, 10:01 PM no, the feat is something like "you must be a # level arcane caster to take this feat."

Its basically to allow classes who use arcane spells (bard, Warlock, Beguiler, Duskblade) to gain access to a familiar.

So in short, if you take that feat, your bard can get a familiar, no need to change the class at all.

Peace
Branto
10-03-06, 10:12 PM Or alternatively, instead of a familiar you could just invest in Animal Handling and get pets. They aren't as powerful as familiars, but I'm not sure if there was a limit to how many you could get. >.>

And training animals to dance or something while you play music would be cute. ;)

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
Sigil_Baram 10-02-06, 07:33 PM	I mean I know they don't in RAW but I mean it makes sense to me (maybe Im just crazy). They have more spells then the adept so don't say its their lower spellcasting ability. They wander around alone (wouldn't you like to have a little animal to talk to?) or in a party (so do wizards and sorcerers). They may be slanted toward chaos but are only slightly more so than a sorcerer (because they can't be lawful, and that is only thinking that familiars may be a lawful thing but then whats with Imps). The only argument I see for them not having one is it would make them over powered. i haven't had time to look here but I've heard them called underpower (tha one0on0one with other classes thing doesn't hold up and Ill explain why if someone asks) Let's say someone wanted to be a bard that had a familiar. What if anything would you make them give up in return?
Skeeve 10-02-06, 07:46 PM	I'd make them give up a third level feat. It's actually in Complete Arcane - called 'Obtain Familiar'.
Sigil_Baram 10-02-06, 08:07 PM	I'd make them give up a third level feat. It's actually in Complete Arcane - called 'Obtain Familiar'. Would they get it at first level though? Or at least have all their bard levels count?
Fithero 10-02-06, 10:01 PM	no, the feat is something like "you must be a # level arcane caster to take this feat." Its basically to allow classes who use arcane spells (bard, Warlock, Beguiler, Duskblade) to gain access to a familiar. So in short, if you take that feat, your bard can get a familiar, no need to change the class at all. Peace
Branto 10-03-06, 10:12 PM	Or alternatively, instead of a familiar you could just invest in Animal Handling and get pets. They aren't as powerful as familiars, but I'm not sure if there was a limit to how many you could get. >.> And training animals to dance or something while you play music would be cute. ;)