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lamrar 02-22-06, 08:08 PM	I am playing a sorcerer, who is obsessed with manipulating and domineering other people through his spells and his high charisma score. Does anybody have any suggestions on spells, magic items, etc. that could fit this character? I am considering letting him use drugs to control people, first persuading them to try the drug, and then abusing his position as provider of the drug. Any advice on this? Any advice on how he can lower the Will save of his adversaries? (poisons, spells, etc.) Any suggestions on how to convince an npc to put on a Fanatics Collar (described in the Book of Vile Darkness)? Is Mindbender the way to go for a domineering character? I appreciate any help on this! :)
interpretivechaos 02-22-06, 08:57 PM	Hmm..... All are good ideas. It goes for granted to max out your Diplomacy, Bluff and Intimidate scores. Ideas... 1) Set yourself up as a bounty hunter. Offer your victims an alternative to the noose. 2)Blackmail. Especially from what you can get from the dredge of the earth, you might be able to find stuff out. 3) Torture. If you break them they may serve you out of fear. 4) Drugs. Also, talk with your DM about the reversal of Inflict Pain. Making them come to you for pure ectasy ensures they'll follow you, essentially addicted to your spell. 5)Extortion, kidnappings etc. 6)Bribery. Although it's not as domineering as the others, if you arrange it cleverly (through another party/ your other thralls) it can easily become blackmail- plus the first actions can be used to further your own ends. 7)Deceit- become trusted by those in power through performing acts to their benefit, and continue to guide what they should do (to your... mutual benefit) 8)Fear- along the lines of extortion- if they believe you command a set of highly skilled assasins, they'll think twice before crossing you. 9)Seduction- Presumably through an intermediatary, not only is it good blackmail if need be for some (though be careful about swapping, I'll comment below), a secret mistress can be an excellent way to get them to do things (be it start drugs, or do your work) Also, it can work similar to addiction... 10) Seduction of other things... Power, Respect... Play upon their fears and desires and be overall manipulative. Just be careful not to mix any between the two categories (sugar and whip). And be careful to know how much control you have over your slaves- you hardly want them to feel betrayed at your lies and pretty drugs when you demand them to do something for blackmail/extortion
Worguron 02-22-06, 09:42 PM	Mindbender is the most common method of the domineering spellcaster, but a possible alternative would be to use the Fatespinner to lower the enemy's chances of saving against your spells. Say things about controlling the destiny of others when you use your Fatespinner abilities. You also may want to think about Charming several thugs to help with the capture of the enemies you want to dominate. Most people wouldn't think twice about accepting a 'friendly' Sorceror's help in escaping an ambush by some thugs. Once you have befriended them, a Dominate Person will be more likely to be successful, and if you have the last level of Fatespinner it is almost certain that you will have a dominated thrall in no time.