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DamageSponge
09-24-04, 11:15 PM I was thinking of makeing a Fighter character named Roland Carthala. I want him to used to be a Knight (of some order) and he did something wrong (not horrible) and was expelled. If anyone could responde and help me it would be very helpfull.

GAME ON!!

~DamageSponger :mymy:
Trydan
09-27-04, 03:01 AM I was thinking of makeing a Fighter character named Roland Carthala. I want him to used to be a Knight (of some order) and he did something wrong (not horrible) and was expelled. If anyone could responde and help me it would be very helpfull.Here are a few possibilities:

He was in a jousting tournament and aimed for the horse, rather than the rider.
He struck at an unarmed opponent.
He was disrepectful (used insulting words) at the king/noble/etc.
He ignored or insulted the church/temple.
He failed to pay his taxes.
Hopefully these will give you some ideas.
heiny71
09-27-04, 11:29 PM If he was a knight it might be interesting if he was in a situation that his bravery or honor was in question. But he had his own reasons not to do what he had to do to keep his name unblemished.

It is also good to remember that in truth most knights were proud arogant and cruel to most of the people that they considered to be beneath them, like peasents and comoners. So it could be that he thaught his order was treating the local people badly and he decided to leave. Or you could find a way to combind these two ideas somehow. Say he didn't kill a peasant who insulted him in front of other knights because he felt pitty towards the peasant. So the other knights called him a coward...you take it from there.

Hope this helps.
Lanoitakude
09-28-04, 12:31 AM Maybe he enjoyed killing a little too much. Maybe he lost his head during battle and went on a killing spree. This could be a good setup for barbarian levels.

Or he could have just had an affair with some noble's wife.
algritz
09-28-04, 12:52 PM He could have met somone to his match in battle and seeing that he might not win, he used "unfair" techniques to win the fight. That caused him to be expelled. Now he has to live with the consequences of his actions.
DamageSponge
09-30-04, 01:12 PM Thanks heiny71! I am going to use that. I wanted him to still be a honorable man, not a mean blood thirsy one. TAHNKS heiny71 !

~DamageSponge :mymy: :mymy: :mymy:
TheMightyMcClaw
10-03-04, 09:01 PM If I were you, I'd have him expelled from the order for public drunkenness. It takes a far cry from the old "was asked to kill innocents, but disobeyed orders" stories. Maybe he really diserved to get kicked out. It makes for a much more human character.....
StoneTree
10-03-04, 09:12 PM Maybe he really diserved to get kicked out. It makes for a much more human character.....

I'm down with McClaw here, I have to say. An ideal character is kind of irritating, and if you look at any of the great works of fiction, or most of the pulp people like us read, you'll find that the protaganist almost always has a, "tragic flaw," or at least a bad habit they suffer from.

If you want one that's easy to roleplay and not evil/all that dishonorable, I'd side with a bad temper. This isn't bloodlust... just he isn't willing to sit down and shut up when he's supposed to. Maybe a prince was making insulting, arrogant comments about the "inferior band of knights" the knight was a member of, and he strode over, pulled the twit off his horse and smashed him one in the face. Even though he was defending the honor of his knightly order, they tossed him out so as to soothe the ruffled feathers of the royal family, and as an example. Obediance is one of the hardest of the knightly vows to keep, especially when the one you're obeying didn't earn his authority...
Lord of the Ninth
10-03-04, 11:20 PM I like the idea of the fallen knight who did something really bad in a fit of passion, like kill a comrad who was unarmed at the time (because he did something terribly offenseive perhaps, like strike the fallen knight's lady or something, or worse because of some perceieved injustice that is actually not true). He then regrets his action, and accepts the appropriate punishment (expulsion from the order and what-have-you). Now the knight is very guarded and cynical, especially about the sort of relationships that caused him to enter that sort of emotional state. As such he exists as a freelance mercenary until he falls in w/ the PCs.

This is the sort of character you role-play in such a manner that when people hear about his past they're like "wait, he did what? You sure you're talking about the right guy here? {name} would never do that, he never cares that much about anything."

Also, your DM could use the person who duped you into killing your comrad and getting tossed out of your order as a future villain, or minion of a villain.

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
DamageSponge 09-24-04, 11:15 PM	I was thinking of makeing a Fighter character named Roland Carthala. I want him to used to be a Knight (of some order) and he did something wrong (not horrible) and was expelled. If anyone could responde and help me it would be very helpfull. GAME ON!! ~DamageSponger :mymy:
Trydan 09-27-04, 03:01 AM	I was thinking of makeing a Fighter character named Roland Carthala. I want him to used to be a Knight (of some order) and he did something wrong (not horrible) and was expelled. If anyone could responde and help me it would be very helpfull.Here are a few possibilities: He was in a jousting tournament and aimed for the horse, rather than the rider. He struck at an unarmed opponent. He was disrepectful (used insulting words) at the king/noble/etc. He ignored or insulted the church/temple. He failed to pay his taxes. Hopefully these will give you some ideas.
heiny71 09-27-04, 11:29 PM	If he was a knight it might be interesting if he was in a situation that his bravery or honor was in question. But he had his own reasons not to do what he had to do to keep his name unblemished. It is also good to remember that in truth most knights were proud arogant and cruel to most of the people that they considered to be beneath them, like peasents and comoners. So it could be that he thaught his order was treating the local people badly and he decided to leave. Or you could find a way to combind these two ideas somehow. Say he didn't kill a peasant who insulted him in front of other knights because he felt pitty towards the peasant. So the other knights called him a coward...you take it from there. Hope this helps.
Lanoitakude 09-28-04, 12:31 AM	Maybe he enjoyed killing a little too much. Maybe he lost his head during battle and went on a killing spree. This could be a good setup for barbarian levels. Or he could have just had an affair with some noble's wife.
algritz 09-28-04, 12:52 PM	He could have met somone to his match in battle and seeing that he might not win, he used "unfair" techniques to win the fight. That caused him to be expelled. Now he has to live with the consequences of his actions.
DamageSponge 09-30-04, 01:12 PM	Thanks heiny71! I am going to use that. I wanted him to still be a honorable man, not a mean blood thirsy one. TAHNKS heiny71 ! ~DamageSponge :mymy: :mymy: :mymy:
TheMightyMcClaw 10-03-04, 09:01 PM	If I were you, I'd have him expelled from the order for public drunkenness. It takes a far cry from the old "was asked to kill innocents, but disobeyed orders" stories. Maybe he really diserved to get kicked out. It makes for a much more human character.....
StoneTree 10-03-04, 09:12 PM	Maybe he really diserved to get kicked out. It makes for a much more human character..... I'm down with McClaw here, I have to say. An ideal character is kind of irritating, and if you look at any of the great works of fiction, or most of the pulp people like us read, you'll find that the protaganist almost always has a, "tragic flaw," or at least a bad habit they suffer from. If you want one that's easy to roleplay and not evil/all that dishonorable, I'd side with a bad temper. This isn't bloodlust... just he isn't willing to sit down and shut up when he's supposed to. Maybe a prince was making insulting, arrogant comments about the "inferior band of knights" the knight was a member of, and he strode over, pulled the twit off his horse and smashed him one in the face. Even though he was defending the honor of his knightly order, they tossed him out so as to soothe the ruffled feathers of the royal family, and as an example. Obediance is one of the hardest of the knightly vows to keep, especially when the one you're obeying didn't earn his authority...
Lord of the Ninth 10-03-04, 11:20 PM	I like the idea of the fallen knight who did something really bad in a fit of passion, like kill a comrad who was unarmed at the time (because he did something terribly offenseive perhaps, like strike the fallen knight's lady or something, or worse because of some perceieved injustice that is actually not true). He then regrets his action, and accepts the appropriate punishment (expulsion from the order and what-have-you). Now the knight is very guarded and cynical, especially about the sort of relationships that caused him to enter that sort of emotional state. As such he exists as a freelance mercenary until he falls in w/ the PCs. This is the sort of character you role-play in such a manner that when people hear about his past they're like "wait, he did what? You sure you're talking about the right guy here? {name} would never do that, he never cares that much about anything." Also, your DM could use the person who duped you into killing your comrad and getting tossed out of your order as a future villain, or minion of a villain.