Help a Semi-educated orc out [Archive] - Wizards Community

Help a Semi-educated orc out [Archive] - Wizards Community

Post/Author/DateTime Post
Ximal
11-03-03, 01:28 AM Im making a ftr/barb orc, thats Orc not half-orc. he hails from a savage specie education program trying to teach the "evil" races to be good, this has had . . . mixed resuts.

Im trying to add a touch of humor to this guy so ive decided that the initals of the program shuld be: U.G.L.Y A.S.S. or as close as possible. (uglie ass uhlie ass ect.) So far the closest ive come is: United Helpers for the Godless Local Insidious Entities and Advacement of Savage Spiecies.
That makes U.H.G.L.I.E A.S.S. can any of you think of a better one?

Also this whuld make a good adventure plot, normaly dumb monsters becoming intelligent, Well planned and exicuted atacks with well made wepons in place of random raids with whatever is at hand, Orcs suddenly using military grade tactics while trolls carrying spears riding landsharks (the trolls not the spears) provide cavalry support.(thank you dragon mag for the troll/landshark/spear idea)
Gadodel
11-04-03, 06:34 AM :confused:
TheBlackBart
11-04-03, 10:16 AM Education wont make monster with a negative bonus in intelligence smarter.

It would make them more knowledgeable though.

In the same time, you tell me the organization tries to make them good.

If it works, in the long term, you should get settlements of good-aligned orcs, trolls, orgres, gobelins and koblods. Eventually, alliances will be made with near human, dwarves and elves settlement.

Remember, I said long-term. It would probably take at least one or two generations to forget racial prejudices. And dwarven and elven generations are ver, very long.

In the meantime, an organization the educates other races wouldn't teach them warrior traditions. It wouldn't teach orcs how to build catapults or kobold some fancy military tactics. That would be foolish, and be (rightfully) considered treachery.

It would probably teach things that would favor good behavior. If orcs was to devellop agriculture, and learned to breed cattle, they wouldn't have to raid human settlement for food. They wouldn't want to, actually, because of the loss of orc lives.

Of course, their adepts and clerics would want to discourage agriculture, as they would forsee the shift too a more civilised and peaceful way of life, wich is contrary to Gruumsh portfolio.

Then teach the orcs there are other gods out there who would like to have orcs as their followers.

Teach them science, especially medical science. They wont be as dependant for healing to their clerics as they were used to be.

But, remember:

It will be a long way before they see the light.

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
Ximal 11-03-03, 01:28 AM	Im making a ftr/barb orc, thats Orc not half-orc. he hails from a savage specie education program trying to teach the "evil" races to be good, this has had . . . mixed resuts. Im trying to add a touch of humor to this guy so ive decided that the initals of the program shuld be: U.G.L.Y A.S.S. or as close as possible. (uglie ass uhlie ass ect.) So far the closest ive come is: United Helpers for the Godless Local Insidious Entities and Advacement of Savage Spiecies. That makes U.H.G.L.I.E A.S.S. can any of you think of a better one? Also this whuld make a good adventure plot, normaly dumb monsters becoming intelligent, Well planned and exicuted atacks with well made wepons in place of random raids with whatever is at hand, Orcs suddenly using military grade tactics while trolls carrying spears riding landsharks (the trolls not the spears) provide cavalry support.(thank you dragon mag for the troll/landshark/spear idea)
Gadodel 11-04-03, 06:34 AM	:confused:
TheBlackBart 11-04-03, 10:16 AM	Education wont make monster with a negative bonus in intelligence smarter. It would make them more knowledgeable though. In the same time, you tell me the organization tries to make them good. If it works, in the long term, you should get settlements of good-aligned orcs, trolls, orgres, gobelins and koblods. Eventually, alliances will be made with near human, dwarves and elves settlement. Remember, I said long-term. It would probably take at least one or two generations to forget racial prejudices. And dwarven and elven generations are ver, very long. In the meantime, an organization the educates other races wouldn't teach them warrior traditions. It wouldn't teach orcs how to build catapults or kobold some fancy military tactics. That would be foolish, and be (rightfully) considered treachery. It would probably teach things that would favor good behavior. If orcs was to devellop agriculture, and learned to breed cattle, they wouldn't have to raid human settlement for food. They wouldn't want to, actually, because of the loss of orc lives. Of course, their adepts and clerics would want to discourage agriculture, as they would forsee the shift too a more civilised and peaceful way of life, wich is contrary to Gruumsh portfolio. Then teach the orcs there are other gods out there who would like to have orcs as their followers. Teach them science, especially medical science. They wont be as dependant for healing to their clerics as they were used to be. But, remember: It will be a long way before they see the light.