Help with changing class: Ftr -> Sor [Archive] - Wizards Community

Help with changing class: Ftr -> Sor [Archive] - Wizards Community

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Kyle_the_DM
11-18-05, 01:26 AM Hey,

My character has two levels of fighter and the group knows that I'm a fairly straight forward meat shield. Now that we all just reached level three, I've added a level of sorcerer. I plan for my character to become a spellsword eventually but I'm a little unsure about how go about suddenly having the ability to use sorcery. The characters have only known each other for three days and we've only fought about six battles. Our leveling up was a DM thing in order to progress into the story faster.

I was thinking on explaining it by just saying that I've been practicing for a while and I'm only now perfecting it to usability. Any other ideas?

Thanks,
Kyle
erbmjw
11-18-05, 06:53 AM Umm it's sorcerery - unlike wizardry you don't just practice to get it -sometimes it just pops into your life - so the three days of intense stress has forced into manifestation your sorcererous abilities.

Play the next little while with yor character practising their new spells/abiliites whenever your party has down time.

Since you are going to be a spellsword I am guessing your spells will be combat realted - considering the 6 fights in three days manisfesting abilities that make you a better/different type of combatant is not a bad concept.

Mentioning that you had an ancestor/ older realtive who also displayed magical talents such as these would also help explain your manisfestation.
eagleye
11-18-05, 08:43 AM Well you could play this with inner turmoil. Your character might not even like being able to cast these incantations all of a sudden. He might also be afraid of the reaction of the outworld (a witch, a witch!). You could reflect this mechanicaly by having him take cross-class skills to his old fighter skills for instance. This might eventualy leed to him accepting this new gift, and combining it with his fighting prowess, resulting in a spellsword. Also remember the spell casting failure, that your character might not be aware of. "Sometimes my spells work, but sometimes they fizzle without reason!"
erbmjw
11-19-05, 04:17 PM Eagleye ... I like the way you think and I really like the spell failure because of the armour issue. It is very cool take on the role playing aspect of a fighter that doesn't quite understand his new sorcerous abilities.
Kyle_the_DM
11-19-05, 09:48 PM I never thought of playing the "why are my spells failing?" aspect of becoming a sorcerer. I like it.

I go with the explanation that the intense stress has brought out my abilities and I don't know much about spell failure and the like. All of the spells I've planned on taking are spells that effect myself except for two, magic missile and orb of force. These are going to be my channeled spells as well as the only damaging spells I use.

The DM has created a very "dragon influenced" world for us so later on my character will prbably learn that sorcerers have dragon blood. Maybe I'll have the DM use this as a side quest kind of thing.

Thanks a lot for all of the ideas. I really like them. :cool:
Warslayngawds
11-24-05, 01:00 AM Given the heavy "Dragon" influence over the world, think about Dragon Disciple as well. One campaign I ran for a long time had an Elven Fighter5/Sorcerer6/Spellsword2/DragonDisciple2 in it(complimented by a lvl 15 Monk and a lvl 14 Sorcerer neither with any multiclassing) She often struggled with her role in combat and the group, but eventuall found her place as the groups center point. All the other members could freely move around her during a combat, while she used her swords and spells to baffle and confuse her opponents. All the while she was exploring her draconic heritage and wrestling with her own personal demons(alignment started at CN and through association with the LG monk eventually turned to CG). The great part of it was that all of the characters advanced both the storyline and they're own development over the course of a four year campaign. Just an idea.
Morka
11-24-05, 09:05 AM What did you exactly fought during those 6 battles? Perhaps by slaying a kobold sorcerer his magical essence spread on you and tainted you.

Another idea might be that you met a Pixie or an Angel during your watch turn, and the creature gave you some magical power.
Kyle_the_DM
11-30-05, 12:12 PM I tried fiddling around with Dragon Disciple but in the end I felt like I needed the caster levels instead. I made two excel sheets for level progression and depending on how the game flows I might just give up the spells and take Dragon Disciple for flavor. One of the group member's character hates dragons and I think he's planning on becoming a Dragonslayer; which should make for some cool roleplaying.

I really like the idea of awakening magic through battleing spellcasters. I've included that into my characters background.

Thanks for the help everyone, I'll be sure to update when I decide on Dragon Disciple or not.

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
Kyle_the_DM 11-18-05, 01:26 AM	Hey, My character has two levels of fighter and the group knows that I'm a fairly straight forward meat shield. Now that we all just reached level three, I've added a level of sorcerer. I plan for my character to become a spellsword eventually but I'm a little unsure about how go about suddenly having the ability to use sorcery. The characters have only known each other for three days and we've only fought about six battles. Our leveling up was a DM thing in order to progress into the story faster. I was thinking on explaining it by just saying that I've been practicing for a while and I'm only now perfecting it to usability. Any other ideas? Thanks, Kyle
erbmjw 11-18-05, 06:53 AM	Umm it's sorcerery - unlike wizardry you don't just practice to get it -sometimes it just pops into your life - so the three days of intense stress has forced into manifestation your sorcererous abilities. Play the next little while with yor character practising their new spells/abiliites whenever your party has down time. Since you are going to be a spellsword I am guessing your spells will be combat realted - considering the 6 fights in three days manisfesting abilities that make you a better/different type of combatant is not a bad concept. Mentioning that you had an ancestor/ older realtive who also displayed magical talents such as these would also help explain your manisfestation.
eagleye 11-18-05, 08:43 AM	Well you could play this with inner turmoil. Your character might not even like being able to cast these incantations all of a sudden. He might also be afraid of the reaction of the outworld (a witch, a witch!). You could reflect this mechanicaly by having him take cross-class skills to his old fighter skills for instance. This might eventualy leed to him accepting this new gift, and combining it with his fighting prowess, resulting in a spellsword. Also remember the spell casting failure, that your character might not be aware of. "Sometimes my spells work, but sometimes they fizzle without reason!"
erbmjw 11-19-05, 04:17 PM	Eagleye ... I like the way you think and I really like the spell failure because of the armour issue. It is very cool take on the role playing aspect of a fighter that doesn't quite understand his new sorcerous abilities.
Kyle_the_DM 11-19-05, 09:48 PM	I never thought of playing the "why are my spells failing?" aspect of becoming a sorcerer. I like it. I go with the explanation that the intense stress has brought out my abilities and I don't know much about spell failure and the like. All of the spells I've planned on taking are spells that effect myself except for two, magic missile and orb of force. These are going to be my channeled spells as well as the only damaging spells I use. The DM has created a very "dragon influenced" world for us so later on my character will prbably learn that sorcerers have dragon blood. Maybe I'll have the DM use this as a side quest kind of thing. Thanks a lot for all of the ideas. I really like them. :cool:
Warslayngawds 11-24-05, 01:00 AM	Given the heavy "Dragon" influence over the world, think about Dragon Disciple as well. One campaign I ran for a long time had an Elven Fighter5/Sorcerer6/Spellsword2/DragonDisciple2 in it(complimented by a lvl 15 Monk and a lvl 14 Sorcerer neither with any multiclassing) She often struggled with her role in combat and the group, but eventuall found her place as the groups center point. All the other members could freely move around her during a combat, while she used her swords and spells to baffle and confuse her opponents. All the while she was exploring her draconic heritage and wrestling with her own personal demons(alignment started at CN and through association with the LG monk eventually turned to CG). The great part of it was that all of the characters advanced both the storyline and they're own development over the course of a four year campaign. Just an idea.
Morka 11-24-05, 09:05 AM	What did you exactly fought during those 6 battles? Perhaps by slaying a kobold sorcerer his magical essence spread on you and tainted you. Another idea might be that you met a Pixie or an Angel during your watch turn, and the creature gave you some magical power.
Kyle_the_DM 11-30-05, 12:12 PM	I tried fiddling around with Dragon Disciple but in the end I felt like I needed the caster levels instead. I made two excel sheets for level progression and depending on how the game flows I might just give up the spells and take Dragon Disciple for flavor. One of the group member's character hates dragons and I think he's planning on becoming a Dragonslayer; which should make for some cool roleplaying. I really like the idea of awakening magic through battleing spellcasters. I've included that into my characters background. Thanks for the help everyone, I'll be sure to update when I decide on Dragon Disciple or not.