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Lord Lothar 09-04-03, 11:21 PM	my pc is a Noble in our group.....i need some help with how to address the group, without being a "snob" i guess....any suggestions? also, our group has a fighter, monk, cleric, and me a wizard, i will be lvling up soon and my stats are: Str-10 Dex-15 Con-13 Int-18 Wis-16 Cha-10 what is a good class i could go to? a rogue? with a decent dex and high wis and int, wouldnt i be great to advance to a rogue?
stembolt 09-05-03, 01:49 AM	I would go for wizard actually. My second choice would be rogue. As for being a noble. It’s flavor text, in your case. Since your charisma is nothing special you are not going to be a leader of men. Dress nicely and roleplay a noble pretending to be humble. That’s it, don’t over-think it. If you mentioned your nobility then the other PCs are very likely going to get all bent out of shape.
HammerFist 09-05-03, 06:56 AM	Most nobles are well educated. You'd put forth an aura of superiority at all times, starting with proper grammar and spelling. You'd undoubtedly use capital letters to start a sentence. ;)
Trydan 09-05-03, 08:58 AM	Here are some ideas: Refer to people by their title and surname (e.g. "Excuse me, Mr Bloodaxe, would you mind not stepping on my foot?" Don't laugh loudly or be boistrous. You are being refined here. Don't swear or use coarse words. Make yourself a list of "noble expletives" and use them. E.g. "Oh bother, I appear to have had my arm cut off." Be courteous. Speak of your family... often. They are your source of nobility. Spout anecdotes that indicate you wealth/power/etc. "I say, we used to have one of these in our holiday-castle" Be clean. Make a point of asking for a bath to be run, when you stop at a tavern. Carry spare sets of clean clothes. Make a point of getting them washed and pressed regularly. Have soap/shaving mirror/perfumes/talc/pot-pourri (sp?) in you pack. Wear jewelry. Even if it is non-magical. Keep your armour (if any) polished. I hope these help.
Morka 09-05-03, 09:22 AM	All depends on the alignment. If you are evil, then despise "lower" people. Merchant are barely higher than slaves, they have no blood right to be rich. But of course, when speaking to them, they are your equal! If you are chaotic good, try to help those lower peoples. At the limit, you may insult them to call them "lower", but you only want to help them. Think of Nalia in Baldur Gate II... If you are LG or LN, those "lower" people should stay "lower", but there is still no reason to torment them. You don't have too much charisma, but are quite intelligent. You can buy some rank in diplomacy, and try to lead the people, even if you are not so much charismatic. For multiclassing, consider also multiclass to a priest. This is a "high society level" profession. But you are very high in intelligence, I suggest you focus on mage class.
Wolfvyn 09-08-03, 12:18 AM	spend like a spoiled teenage girl with her daddy's credit card.
kalniel 09-08-03, 12:30 AM	Buy an item that boosts your charisma, like a medallion or something and wear it openly. Create a coat of arms or a signet ring with a long history of family tradition behind it. Engage with other nobels. When you hit a town, don't stay in the ye olde adventurers inn, but seek out more refined accomodation. Hold functions for other nobles and make them your source of information. A wizard is a good class for you. You could be quite a distinguished scolar.
Leap 09-08-03, 04:02 AM	Think of the advice from "Zorro" (the movie)......a noble is someone who thinks onething and says something else.........
ThorvaldHafgrimsson 09-10-03, 02:07 PM	How did you decide your character was noble? Did the Dm decide for you? Did you just choose to be a noble? Are all Wizards in your setting required to be nobles? Did you take a feat or first level in the Aristocrat class? Also, are the laws different for nobles? Classic example is a noble strikes a commoner and the commoner just has to take it. If the noble kills the commoner he has to pay a fine to the commoners liege, based on the commoners value to his liege. If a commoner strikes a noble, even if no harm is done, he is executed. If it is mostly a matter of forms of address (ie modern England) then simply ask the other party members to try and remember the proper address when in town, just ot avoid social/legal problems. If there is a real issue of power involved then you could have serious problems with the other players unless you made a mechanical decision like a feat or several skills or a PrC or level of Aristocrat, as they will see it as an attempt on your part to force them into either playing nobles themselves or take you orders.
Vilmar 09-10-03, 02:19 PM	I'd guess that the noble you're playing must have some sort of chaotic leaning if he willingly went adventuring with his other comrades, if that's the case, you could explain his refinement and eloquence and education and such with bard levels. Alternatively if he is following them out of respect for the law and such and it's within the boundaries of the law, I would say he might have been educated as a wizard - he'd have power to back up his noble tongue then. Hmm, as a previous poster said, I'd make references to your characters previous dwellings in his conversations - for example: 'Ye gods, this dank cave is not the place for a refined gentleman such as I. I could just as well be at home in my estate drinking fine imported elven wines...' You get the drill... Emphasis your characters station in terms of his regions class station, for example: 'You, sir Dwarf are nothing better than the diseased peasants who clean up after my horses' However, that sounds a tad snobbish. You could do the same but make it so that your noble character is being naive as to the effects of his statement on his less priviledged comrades. Try and use more technical or complicated speech to further emphasise your rich/noble upbringing.
stembolt 09-10-03, 08:38 PM	A noble does not need to be a spoiled brat. A noble also does not need to have a high charisma.
Vilmar 09-10-03, 11:04 PM	Fair and valid points. Though it's easier to advertise if they are. :)
Trydan 09-16-03, 05:52 AM	Roleplaying Tips Weekly E-Zine Issue #189 is all about nobles in campaigns. The E-Zine is available by e-mail, or online in the archives (although #189 is not online just yet). Details available at: http://www.roleplayingtips.com/
Trydan 09-23-03, 03:45 AM	In the signature of Ikoma Otekai it says: "True nobility comes not from being superior to another man, but from being superior to your past". When I read it, it reminded me of this thread, so I thought I'd share it. It could be the basis for an interesting character philosophy.