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Crazy Elf Witch 01-09-04, 10:14 AM	Yes, yes, this is yet ANOTHER alignment thread... sorry :D I'm sure you guys will forgive me as I am trying to roleplay a Neutral Good cleric. Could you guys give me examples, as in situations, comparing chaotic good to neutral good. For example, if I receive threats from a PC character, would I still be compeled to heal his wounds. Would I heal a PC rogue that keeps on stealing from me? Would I heal a PC that is mean with other PC's in the group? If you have links to other threats talking about how to roleplay neutral good then by all means post them. Thanks.
horse 01-09-04, 01:55 PM	the way i see neutral good, you basically make decisions independently of each other & tend to go with whatever's best for the greater good. so, if the PC rogue who keeps stealing from you needs healing because he was trying to steal from somebody & he got beat up, then you probably wouldn't heal him, because that would condone his trying to steal from people. however, if he needed healing so that he could continue to help the group fight against some big bad evil guy, then you probably would heal him in hopes of defeating the evil guy. basically, you make decisions based on the present rather than the past & tend to decide on what's best for your own good. i hope i've been able to help you out.
dragonheart 01-12-04, 06:34 PM	you might remember that neutrl good is really sayingn halfway between law and chaos but definitely on the good side whenconsiderin g good and evil. so he recognizes taht we need some laws to function at all. on the other hand some laws may be bad or biased and should be ignored. He wants to support the greater good and will not allow himself to be tied to a set of laws just because they are laws(think Ghandi, M.L.King, Malcom X, Martin Luther as possible examples). In the examples you gave: if I receive threats from a PC character, would I still be compeled to heal his wounds. no - you could if healing him served some more important purpose but you don't have just because he wants you to - especially if he he is threateningn you to try to make you heal him that would be aquiesing to an evil act not something you want to do. Would I heal a PC rogue that keeps on stealing from me? no - again supporting his evil action (stealing-especially from you or the party) is an evil act adn should not be supported. Would I heal a PC that is mean with other PC's in the group? same answer. at teh same time slaughtering cowering orc women and children might not be a "good act" so you might not be doing that either - if tehy attack its one thing cowering in feaer is another.
Bromabaz Silvertwister 01-13-04, 01:48 AM	Originally posted by Crazy Elf Witch For example, if I receive threats from a PC character, would I still be compeled to heal his wounds. Would I heal a PC rogue that keeps on stealing from me? Would I heal a PC that is mean with other PC's in the group? 1) You would probably feel bad for him, but you don't have to help him. You're not a palidin, and you're not his wand of cure spells. He shouldn't expect you to heal him just because he tried to charge the dire porcupine. 2) You don't have to. being NG doesn't mean being really nice, it means you normally do the right thing, without any real regard for the rules. If the rogue is stealing, start charging him for his healing. at least the amount he stole plus a set fee. Tell him you *would* heal him for free, but you seem to have lost your wallet at the pub last week. 3) Are they mean to you? If they treat you with respect, then go ahead, but as you're healing, give them a sermon about treating your fellow man a bit better. Do it everytime you heal them.
LeeBus2334 01-13-04, 04:56 PM	To me netrual good is those who are basicly good people but still do things their own way. Well thats how I play my neutral good characters.
Crazy Elf Witch 01-14-04, 01:54 PM	Leebus That kinda sounds like chaotic good, no?
Hez 01-17-04, 02:48 PM	One of the best examples a Neutral Good character I can think of in fiction is Angel, from the television show of the same name. Angel is basically NG. He doesn't really have any sort of preference for the law (obviously, running a demonic law firm in the latest season is different, but I'll get to that) but at the same time, he doesn't believe in chaos or anarchy. He's willing to work with "the system", IF the system will work for him. Otherwise, he doesn't care. Angel has seen law abused for the purposes of evil (Wolfram & Hart) but at the same time, he doesn't believe all law and government and authority is evil. So he's not really chaotic (since he doesn't actively oppose authority or completely ignore the merits of an orderly system) but at the same time, he's not lawful (because he's perfectly willing to ignore those laws he disagrees with or stand in his way, or are abused for evil). So what does that make him? Neutral. But he's definitely good. At the heart of it, the show keeps calling him "The Champion". He is the guy that at the end of the day, no matter what the law says or what his personal feelings on the matter are, it is the good outcome that must prevail. In the last season, Angel did battle with a Lovecraftian god-creature that was called Jasmine. Jasmine wanted to bring love and peace to people (and also eat them) and in the doing of that, took all their free will and individual freedom away. So Angel opposed her, even if it meant robbing people of their happiness, because a perfect Utopia is not a Utopia worth living in if you have no free will. And yet, in the end, when Jasmine died and the world was resultingly plunged into chaos and misery by what happened, instead of turning his back on the world, he used a "favor" from Wolfram & Hart to make the entire world, including his friends, just forget it ever happened. He even used it to give his son, who was miserable and hopeless, a new and better life. Even if that meant he would never be a part of his son's life, and that he had to rob his son and his friends and even the whole world of an intrinsic right to remember the actual events, he did what he did for the "greater good". That is, at heart, what is most important to him. Not law or chaos, but what is the greatest good available without doing too much evil in the process. Now, he ends up running an evil law firm owned by demon lords (Wolfram & Hart, his former foe). Instead of absolutely destroying this personification of Lawful Evil (which W&H really is) he sacks the most evil employees and tries to change the way the company works. He still works with the law, but he's trying to work for the purposes of good, instead of evil. A Chaotic Good character, in my opinion, would just take the whole organization and burn it to the ground, instead of trying to make it into a tool for good. So in the end, you have a character who is definitely good, and goodness is where his heart is, but he doesn't really give a damn about the absolutes of Law or Chaos. Laws are only as good as they are doing good for people, and personal freedom can be easily abused and has limitations, and can be outright removed for the sake of goodness. So, you have an ultimately Neutral Good character. When playing a NG character, in any situation where you thinka moral or ethical alignment question is in question, just think very clearly "what serves the greater good?" and you will find your answer.
Fredrik Svanberg 01-17-04, 03:42 PM	Just think "What would Jesus/Buddha/Gandhi do" and act accordingly. Neutral Good is forgiving, altruistic and not particularly concerned with who they are helping. Follow those laws which are good and act to abolish those laws which are not.