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Reven Finale 09-09-03, 08:44 PM	Recently I've been playing a Sorcerer about to turn level 6. I've decided that I want to become a Paladin. My DM wants me to come up with a idea to make him realize his Holy path. But I have no idea on how to make him do this. My character has a clean slate as of now which makes it simpler...but I still don't know what to do....any ideas?
Zoticus 09-09-03, 11:32 PM	It could be something as simple as him having a dream/vision from his god/godess as to undertaking a task, or as glaring as having a messenger from said deity appear and command him to undertake such a quest. Kinda hard to say no to a Ghale who was sent as a divine messenger. Go to the temple of your patron deity and announce your intentions to them...you will most certainly have to undertake some great challenge to prove that you are serious in your devotion perhaps even with a geas/quest spell in effect at your dm's discression. Hope this helps.
Cavalrysoldier382 09-10-03, 12:58 AM	Granted you might want to turn holy but you have to keep some things in mind. 1: IS you chars deity of the proper alignment? 2: IS your char the kind to accept a Lawful Good life style? Im not trying to discourage you, just trying to present it that you might have to change the chars total personality because of the change. I knew it...Im surrounded by *******S!!!---Dark Helmet
Rosella 09-10-03, 05:06 AM	for the record: A paladin does not need a deity to be a paladin.
Leap 09-10-03, 07:31 AM	You, or at least your character, is going to need to find an explicit and detailed code of conduct from somewhere....deities are usually a good source.....or benevolent govts. Most Paladins spring from a culture or a "holy order"
Morka 09-10-03, 09:16 AM	Reminds me of Gandalf in Lord of the Ring. In the first novel, he did fall in a hole with a huge demon. Everybody was thinking him dead. In the second novel, he get back as Gandalf the White. He explained he has fought the demon for days, and that was enough to be accepted by the White Light (or something like that). But I think Gandalf is more like a Cleric than a Mage or Sorceror. Instead of worshipping a god, he worship the principe of life itself.
Leap 09-10-03, 10:01 AM	Ok, so this is thread rot, but………… :) LOTR makes a fairly strong set of hints that Gandalf is more like a Cleric than a Wizzy (in DnD terms), or at least a druid (“I am a servant of the secret fire” – the secret fire is the fire at the heart of the earth……)….. but the whole middle-earthy stuff makes no real distinction between the types of magic……………..certainly Gandalf does not “pray” for spells, or chant or suchlike (more like psionics really……….).except for opening spells at least………………although “words of power” are central to the concept of magic in middle earth………………… Hmmmmm Oh well……..
Reven Finale 09-10-03, 07:42 PM	My character has no deity. He would accept the Lawful Good life he just needs a reason to....he needs something to occur....
TinySilverChalice 09-10-03, 09:33 PM	Have your DM arrange a near-death experience. (They seem to be good at that sort of thing. :devil: ) After nearly being utterly defeated by a great evil (or actually being defeated and brought back to life), your character realizes the purpose of his natural arcane talents: to preserve and save the common people/the world from evil. He swears to his god (or any god that will hear his plea, although picking up a diety would be a great show at this point) to protect and serve, etc. Or a major NPC in his life is captured/killed by a great evil, with the same results.
Zoticus 09-10-03, 11:17 PM	One thing you might want to consider is to take the arcane devotee (i think that's what it's called) PrC to keep your magical abilities growing.
Leap 09-11-03, 05:14 AM	Maybe he finally figures out that life is better when shared with friends / community and that friendships / communities are built on trust(worthiness), truth(fullness), forgiveness of minor slights (in the interest of social cohesion), unequivocal chastisement of serious offences (defending from genuine dangers), sharing (with those who are both genuinely grateful and who share in return) and respect for traditions (that build the stability needed to develop trust-based relationships (which need to grow over a period of time, through a personal relationship))…… …..now give him the ability for confident, convincing and capable communication (high charisma) …..and a sword :) Not exactly rocket science, is it. ;)