How would you all play a.... [Archive] - Wizards Community

How would you all play a.... [Archive] - Wizards Community

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TheDarkPrince
07-31-07, 12:25 AM Assassin-like monk. Basically he is a highly trained warrior of a secret cult, who's mission is to maintain balance between Good and Evil. (Think Raz-Al-Gul from the Batman movie....(not the comics) and the organization he led)

What I would like help with is:

How would you play the character flavor wise?

What path (PrC/multi-classing) would you follow?

Anything else helpful, comments, questions, etc.

Thanks, Cheers! :D
CrimsonDeath
07-31-07, 01:26 AM Monk of the Long Death (Player's Guide to Faerun) might be a good Prestiege Class option.
TheDarkPrince
07-31-07, 02:51 AM damn....people have said that before, but i don't have the book.....is it worth getting? (Besides helping me with the class....)

Thanks!
CrimsonDeath
07-31-07, 03:12 AM Not a clue. I've never really used anything from it. The only reason I mentioned it is because it's the only assassin-ish prestiege class I could think of that didn't require either a good or evil alignment.
the_redbeard
07-31-07, 04:47 AM damn....people have said that before, but i don't have the book.....is it worth getting? (Besides helping me with the class....)

Thanks!

If you're playing in Faerun 3.5, it updates/adds region feats from the Campaign Setting book which was technically 3.0 I believe.

There are 15 pages or so of feats, though some of these show up in other products (Arcane Preparation.)

There are 3.5 versions of a number of prestige classes that are favorites, like Incantatrix, Shadow Thief - 30 pages of prestige classes including Monk of the Long Death. After the prestige classes there are a huge number of spells - again, some appear in other products but I'm pretty sure not all.

Oh - and Deity-specific spells for Faerun. So quite a lot if you're doing the realms.
Apupunchau
07-31-07, 11:06 AM Player's guide to faerun has a lot of prestiege classes I use although some a Faerun specific. All the divine ones are good (Divine champion and Divine seeker are both bein gused in my current campaign.) And Monk of the Long Death is exactly the flavor you seem to be looking for,
TheDarkPrince
07-31-07, 05:13 PM Thanks. I think I'll take a look at buying it then.
CobaltDeathWolf
07-31-07, 06:49 PM hmmm... i think a ghost-faced killer would be a good choice, since he's evil
thats out of the complete adventurer book
as far as personality...
mayhaps... the silent dangerous type
the kinda guy that tells his 'comrades' "dont get in my way, or i'll kill you too:monk: "
CrimsonDeath
07-31-07, 07:00 PM hmmm... i think a ghost-faced killer would be a good choice, since he's evil
Pretty sure the OP said he was neutral, not evil. If he were evil, I would've just said "Assassin" and been done with it.
CobaltDeathWolf
07-31-07, 08:04 PM oops! misread the post
i saw "Assassin" and thought evil
Phelot_Plaguecrafter
07-31-07, 11:08 PM Can you say Shadowsun Ninja?

Tome of Battle.

Seriously, dude. I can't even describe how appropriate this is.

Just, seriously.
Fithero
07-31-07, 11:53 PM Seriously, dude. I can't even describe how appropriate this is.

Just, seriously.

Seriously?

Is the character concerned with only bringing balance to good and evil or to law and chaos aswell?

The problem with the whole "bringing balance" idea is that it has to be done on a multiverse level. I found the best way to do it was to say that it is so out of balance (in favour of evil) that my character had to do good for the entire campaign, just to bring about balance.

Peace
CrimsonDeath
08-01-07, 04:00 AM Can you say Shadowsun Ninja?

Tome of Battle.

Seriously, dude. I can't even describe how appropriate this is.

Just, seriously.

I thought of that too, but they have to be Good. Monk of the Long Death was seriously the only Assassin-like PrC I could think of that didn't have to be either Good or Evil.

Seriously?

Is the character concerned with only bringing balance to good and evil or to law and chaos aswell?

The problem with the whole "bringing balance" idea is that it has to be done on a multiverse level. I found the best way to do it was to say that it is so out of balance (in favour of evil) that my character had to do good for the entire campaign, just to bring about balance.

Peace

The guy is trying to play Raz al'Gul. Trust me, he's thinking on a multiversal level. (Or if he isn't, he ought to be.)
TheDarkPrince
08-02-07, 04:37 AM Monk of the Long Death (man the title alone is long enough to kill.....) sounds pretty good....What all can it do?

What can the shadowsun ninja do? (Would it be terrible of me to change the alignment?)
CrimsonDeath
08-02-07, 01:54 PM Monk of the Long Death (man the title alone is long enough to kill.....) sounds pretty good....What all can it do?
It stacks with Monk (for a few purposes), uses, poison, and eventually gets a Death Attack and Death Touch.

What can the shadowsun ninja do?
It's a prestiege class from Tome of Battle. It stacks with Monk levels (for a few purposes) and grants Shadow Hand and Setting Sun maneuvers (so it's easiest to get in as a Swordsage). It also has several weird abilities involving positive and negative energy, cold and fire, and light and darkness.

(Would it be terrible of me to change the alignment?)
You tell me. It's your character.
TheDarkPrince
08-04-07, 05:38 PM No I meant as a Pre-Req for the class, I'm keeping my character's alignment, just hoping that changing the classes pre-req wouldn't be too munckiny.....:D

Thanks, Cheers! :D
Nox_the_Barbarian
08-25-07, 12:53 PM I wouldnt be too munchkin-y but it would seriously change the flavor of the class. The shadowsun ninja is my favorite PrC from ToB, and its mainly for repentant characters, or people trying to prove something. like a half-orc trying to prove that he can be as good as any other race. it doesnt strike me as the right PrC for the character you are trying to play.

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
TheDarkPrince 07-31-07, 12:25 AM	Assassin-like monk. Basically he is a highly trained warrior of a secret cult, who's mission is to maintain balance between Good and Evil. (Think Raz-Al-Gul from the Batman movie....(not the comics) and the organization he led) What I would like help with is: How would you play the character flavor wise? What path (PrC/multi-classing) would you follow? Anything else helpful, comments, questions, etc. Thanks, Cheers! :D
CrimsonDeath 07-31-07, 01:26 AM	Monk of the Long Death (Player's Guide to Faerun) might be a good Prestiege Class option.
TheDarkPrince 07-31-07, 02:51 AM	damn....people have said that before, but i don't have the book.....is it worth getting? (Besides helping me with the class....) Thanks!
CrimsonDeath 07-31-07, 03:12 AM	Not a clue. I've never really used anything from it. The only reason I mentioned it is because it's the only assassin-ish prestiege class I could think of that didn't require either a good or evil alignment.
the_redbeard 07-31-07, 04:47 AM	damn....people have said that before, but i don't have the book.....is it worth getting? (Besides helping me with the class....) Thanks! If you're playing in Faerun 3.5, it updates/adds region feats from the Campaign Setting book which was technically 3.0 I believe. There are 15 pages or so of feats, though some of these show up in other products (Arcane Preparation.) There are 3.5 versions of a number of prestige classes that are favorites, like Incantatrix, Shadow Thief - 30 pages of prestige classes including Monk of the Long Death. After the prestige classes there are a huge number of spells - again, some appear in other products but I'm pretty sure not all. Oh - and Deity-specific spells for Faerun. So quite a lot if you're doing the realms.
Apupunchau 07-31-07, 11:06 AM	Player's guide to faerun has a lot of prestiege classes I use although some a Faerun specific. All the divine ones are good (Divine champion and Divine seeker are both bein gused in my current campaign.) And Monk of the Long Death is exactly the flavor you seem to be looking for,
TheDarkPrince 07-31-07, 05:13 PM	Thanks. I think I'll take a look at buying it then.
CobaltDeathWolf 07-31-07, 06:49 PM	hmmm... i think a ghost-faced killer would be a good choice, since he's evil thats out of the complete adventurer book as far as personality... mayhaps... the silent dangerous type the kinda guy that tells his 'comrades' "dont get in my way, or i'll kill you too:monk: "
CrimsonDeath 07-31-07, 07:00 PM	hmmm... i think a ghost-faced killer would be a good choice, since he's evil Pretty sure the OP said he was neutral, not evil. If he were evil, I would've just said "Assassin" and been done with it.
CobaltDeathWolf 07-31-07, 08:04 PM	oops! misread the post i saw "Assassin" and thought evil
Phelot_Plaguecrafter 07-31-07, 11:08 PM	Can you say Shadowsun Ninja? Tome of Battle. Seriously, dude. I can't even describe how appropriate this is. Just, seriously.
Fithero 07-31-07, 11:53 PM	Seriously, dude. I can't even describe how appropriate this is. Just, seriously. Seriously? Is the character concerned with only bringing balance to good and evil or to law and chaos aswell? The problem with the whole "bringing balance" idea is that it has to be done on a multiverse level. I found the best way to do it was to say that it is so out of balance (in favour of evil) that my character had to do good for the entire campaign, just to bring about balance. Peace
CrimsonDeath 08-01-07, 04:00 AM	Can you say Shadowsun Ninja? Tome of Battle. Seriously, dude. I can't even describe how appropriate this is. Just, seriously. I thought of that too, but they have to be Good. Monk of the Long Death was seriously the only Assassin-like PrC I could think of that didn't have to be either Good or Evil. Seriously? Is the character concerned with only bringing balance to good and evil or to law and chaos aswell? The problem with the whole "bringing balance" idea is that it has to be done on a multiverse level. I found the best way to do it was to say that it is so out of balance (in favour of evil) that my character had to do good for the entire campaign, just to bring about balance. Peace The guy is trying to play Raz al'Gul. Trust me, he's thinking on a multiversal level. (Or if he isn't, he ought to be.)
TheDarkPrince 08-02-07, 04:37 AM	Monk of the Long Death (man the title alone is long enough to kill.....) sounds pretty good....What all can it do? What can the shadowsun ninja do? (Would it be terrible of me to change the alignment?)
CrimsonDeath 08-02-07, 01:54 PM	Monk of the Long Death (man the title alone is long enough to kill.....) sounds pretty good....What all can it do? It stacks with Monk (for a few purposes), uses, poison, and eventually gets a Death Attack and Death Touch. What can the shadowsun ninja do? It's a prestiege class from Tome of Battle. It stacks with Monk levels (for a few purposes) and grants Shadow Hand and Setting Sun maneuvers (so it's easiest to get in as a Swordsage). It also has several weird abilities involving positive and negative energy, cold and fire, and light and darkness. (Would it be terrible of me to change the alignment?) You tell me. It's your character.
TheDarkPrince 08-04-07, 05:38 PM	No I meant as a Pre-Req for the class, I'm keeping my character's alignment, just hoping that changing the classes pre-req wouldn't be too munckiny.....:D Thanks, Cheers! :D
Nox_the_Barbarian 08-25-07, 12:53 PM	I wouldnt be too munchkin-y but it would seriously change the flavor of the class. The shadowsun ninja is my favorite PrC from ToB, and its mainly for repentant characters, or people trying to prove something. like a half-orc trying to prove that he can be as good as any other race. it doesnt strike me as the right PrC for the character you are trying to play.