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Tetujin 06-01-06, 05:58 PM	Anyone familar with the setting knows it's easy for an Ogrun to just go Fighter/Barbarian and head up the Whirlwind Attack feat tree using an Ogrun Warcleaver (5-15ft threat, 2d8 x3). I've been combing the allowed books (Core + Complete + IK) to look for something a bit more entertaining while still maintaining my position as primary tank. For those not familar with the setting the Ogrun are large, have ECL 1, and get +4 Str, -2 Int and Wis. They get a bonus 1d8 hit points, move 40ft, and racial bonuses to intimidate and craft (any metal). (Please avoid discussing the balance issues behind this race, it should also be noted that many things in IK are only balanced in IK. I also list the stats so you get an idea of what kinds of people these are.) They mostly live in dwarven communities and still experience a moderate social stigma from Humans and Elves. Ogrun almost exclusively worship a nature goddess. Any classes with Sorcerer or basically any Cha-based casters in any class are thought of as "witches" and are rare and secretive. My first attempt was at a quarterstaff (eventually Longstaff) using, expertising, TWF Ranger, which was working out pretty well until I learned I couldn't take the PHB Ranger I had to take the IK Ranger which is different significantly enough to make the build impossible due to MAD even with a 32 point buy. His aim was to show combat skill was measured in intelect (INT 14) rather then "the largest piece of metal" and was generally upset about how his race get's characterized and was doing his best to become an example of the nobility (for lack of a better word) of the Ogrun way of life. I am looking for something of maybe a similar concept, and I'm really not looking for something optimized, hense why I didn't post this in the forum. So, maybe some ideas that you've used in the past to avoid playing the big dumb fighter stereotype? I just need something to get me going. Even more so if anyone is familar with the setting maybe they could relate what kind of Ogrun they think would be interesting to play. I'm cirtain there is all sorts of other information you might need and don't hesitate to request it.
WhrenKehrsyn 06-04-06, 02:38 PM	My IK knowledge is pretty small, but I do really like the setting. I was thinking perhaps he was captured by some humans, while theyre still suspicious and attach some stigma to Ogrun if I remember correctly they are fairly tolerant of non human races. Captured and made a servant (not a slave) of a noble family. They appreciate your combat prowess and allow you to continue your training and even serve as something of a trainer in self defense for the children and others of the house. You even act as a bodyguard on occasion. Theyve also gone way out of thier way to culture you, it wouldnt do to have a brutish servant around who cant properly respond when spoken to. So youve a bit of educating, and good education at that. Go with a few knowledge skills, maybe history and nobility, flower up your speech a bit and adopt a sort of honorable duelist attitude towards combat.