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Otogi
12-16-06, 04:34 PM Has any ever played a LBGT character in D&D? If you have, what was it like? If you hate the idea, could you give a reason why?

(Notes to administrators: Please do not send this to the Mature Boards. This question is merely to ask people about the life styles of characters, not about sexual issues or the like

Note to others:
LGBT: Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual and Transexual)
JulesCARV
12-17-06, 02:16 PM I played an asexual woman once -- cleric of the Sovereign Host, and Kol Korran in particular. Not precisely the same as GLBT, but not conventionally "straight" either. It never came up, because the game fell apart shortly thereafter. There was no particular backstory reason she was asexual, and she wasn't really puritanical or prudish -- her hormones and mind just didn't cause her to find sex to be a particularly exciting urge.
Carey Z W
12-17-06, 04:32 PM I played a gay dwarf one, with a preference for girly elves. From that point on in the campaign, there was not a SINGLE other important NPC created by the DM that was an elf. It was quite amusing though, and one of the players minded, (Cept the Elf wizard... poor guy.)
Otogi
12-20-06, 08:09 PM I played an asexual woman once -- cleric of the Sovereign Host, and Kol Korran in particular. Not precisely the same as GLBT, but not conventionally "straight" either. It never came up, because the game fell apart shortly thereafter. There was no particular backstory reason she was asexual, and she wasn't really puritanical or prudish -- her hormones and mind just didn't cause her to find sex to be a particularly exciting urge.

Not exactly what I ment, but your shooting in the right area. Sounds like it could have been an interesting characte, though
Otogi
12-20-06, 08:17 PM I played a gay dwarf one, with a preference for girly elves. From that point on in the campaign, there was not a SINGLE other important NPC created by the DM that was an elf. It was quite amusing though, and one of the players minded, (Cept the Elf wizard... poor guy.)

Well, I ment this for serious LGBT characters, but he does indeed sound amusing :clap:
evilgenius
12-20-06, 09:22 PM As a DM, I've had gay NPCs, but none of my players have made characters like that.

Sexuality is about 0% of our game, so it doesn't really come up. The few gay NPCs I introduced were from a warrior society, who were into male homosexuality as a part of their entire culture. Women were only for breeding and home defence, while the men were bound through their brotherhood of arms, esprit-de-corps and comraderie that extended into the physical.

Modeled after the Spartans I suppose.
darkhunter2007
12-22-06, 03:58 AM Has any ever played a LBGT character in D&D? If you have, what was it like? If you hate the idea, could you give a reason why?

(Notes to administrators: Please do not send this to the Mature Boards. This question is merely to ask people about the life styles of characters, not about sexual issues or the like

Note to others:
LGBT: Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual and Transexual)

Why do you ask such questions?i dubt someone does
Otogi
12-22-06, 08:47 AM Well, I ask mostly to know if players have gone into different aspects of their characters, one of which was their feelings for other characters, even characters of te same gender (as situations as such are common when adventuring or trying to find the Sacred Tome of the Ancient Lizardfolk of the White Marsh or some such something).

I also ask it as a players ability to craft charcters to great detail.
darkhunter2007
12-23-06, 10:27 AM as i know people of the middle ages wheren't that seek as some people in our days-for a D&D game if something like that heppend in my game, it's only for a joke. -then i'll remove
AMGriffin
12-23-06, 11:27 AM I played a sociopathic half-drow monk who was bisexual. He enjoyed nailing both men and women alike, and had a slight flair for rape. One of my most evil characters ever.

Fun stuff!
Otogi
12-23-06, 10:04 PM as i know people of the middle ages wheren't that seek as some people in our days-for a D&D game if something like that heppend in my game, it's only for a joke. -then i'll remove

With a world of elves, dwarves, magic and flyng eyeballs that fire (frikkin') lasers from their eyes, don't you think that people may be a bit more open about these things?

By the way, what did you mean when you said remove?
Eridrau
12-23-06, 10:40 PM actually, about 50% of the characters I make are bisexual in some way. The only thing is, I either get stuck with the devout worshipers of the gods Hakkin Slash, and Monty Haul.
It's difficult to role play even a heterosexual relationship when NPCs are little more than a plot device to railroad the rest of the party.
(That said, anyone in the local area willing to host a campaign in the coming new year? :P)
<Before the '0lDBez' act, I know there's a forum for that, it's a joke. J-O-K-E, you know?>
JulesCARV
12-24-06, 01:05 AM With a world of elves, dwarves, magic and flyng eyeballs that fire (frikkin') lasers from their eyes, don't you think that people may be a bit more open about these things?

This is often asserted, but I don't see much evidence for it. It's not as if periods in which racial persecution thrived were times when sex-based persecution languished, or periods in which having the wrong politics could lose you your job were periods in which no one cared about your sexual orientation. It isn't as if people are restricted to either hating halflings or hating lesbians: they can do both. It seems likely to me that the people who are the most tolerant of other races are also probably the most tolerant of other sexualities, while the dwarf who talks about how humans all ought to be hung from lampposts is probably the same guy who thinks gays ought to be burnt. (or whatever)
deldyrra
12-24-06, 03:30 AM I'm really excited to see someone on the boards starting a discussion about this. Its an issue that comes up often for me, being a person who is both queer/trans and enjoys roleplaying and gamer culture (often hetero-centric and homophobic).

For example, one campaign i play in, made up of 6 players. 4 of us are queer (just a less restrictive word for glbt), 1 is straight but open-minded, and the other is a conservative straight dude. One of my friends plays a bisexual Sune-worshiping sorceror of ambiguous gender. We have a pretty awesome DM, who works it in excellently to our adventures. This annoys the one close-minded straight guy, who says our campaign is too gay(haha), but our DM is skilled enough that he does it without making it too over-bearing or slowing down the game. And so, it rarely leads to out-of-game conflicts. (those all stem from him being an ******* in general.) I think its strange that this is an issue, but me playing female characters (often queer, as well) despite being male-perceived has never been an issue.

Personally, i think the D&D world (or at least a more traditional one, like Faerun) lends itself perfectly to people to being queer. Particularly in open-minded areas, such as Silverymoon and Waterdeep, it says many people have unique tastes in dress and lifestyle. That seems to imply to me, sexual lifestyles as well.
I think anyone who thinks it is particularly out of place is just trying to impose their preferences on others.
PiedmonSama
12-24-06, 05:07 AM Never for D&D.... but one time I played World of Warcraft on an RP Server and decided that my Dwarf Paladin had joined the Order of the Silver Hand because he was, in fact, gay, and his wealthy parents had arranged a marriage for him to some sow of a Dwarven noblewoman. That's just as a jokey thing, obviously---I don't think I'd ever seriously try to RP a gay character.... although if you ask why, I couldn't give a real answer.

It's not something that would ever be important, since sexuality has never come up in a game of ours. (Funny, in terms of violence all my games are at Tarantino/Slasher flick levels, but in terms of sex everything's strictly PG. Probably because there is no way I could look at DM Steve in the eye and say 'I rock her back gently as my fingers find her bra strap.' That would just be awkward as hell.)
Otogi
12-24-06, 11:11 AM This is often asserted, but I don't see much evidence for it. It's not as if periods in which racial persecution thrived were times when sex-based persecution languished, or periods in which having the wrong politics could lose you your job were periods in which no one cared about your sexual orientation. It isn't as if people are restricted to either hating halflings or hating lesbians: they can do both. It seems likely to me that the people who are the most tolerant of other races are also probably the most tolerant of other sexualities, while the dwarf who talks about how humans all ought to be hung from lampposts is probably the same guy who thinks gays ought to be burnt. (or whatever)

Point taken, but what I mean is that in a world where (*does Pablo Fransicos impressionation of the guy at the movies*) magic is power and monsters are everywhere, one man shouldn't have to worry about his sexual oriantation. The Gnome Wizard is *sound effect* "Gnomish spellcaster who takes intrest is same gender!". He's ready to talk about his lifestyle, are you?

*bows*

But seriously, with such elements, culture is sure to have some changes, though I see your point in individual opinions.
Otogi
12-24-06, 11:32 AM I'm really excited to see someone on the boards starting a discussion about this. Its an issue that comes up often for me, being a person who is both queer/trans and enjoys roleplaying and gamer culture (often hetero-centric and homophobic).

For example, one campaign i play in, made up of 6 players. 4 of us are queer (just a less restrictive word for glbt), 1 is straight but open-minded, and the other is a conservative straight dude. One of my friends plays a bisexual Sune-worshiping sorceror of ambiguous gender. We have a pretty awesome DM, who works it in excellently to our adventures. This annoys the one close-minded straight guy, who says our campaign is too gay(haha), but our DM is skilled enough that he does it without making it too over-bearing or slowing down the game. And so, it rarely leads to out-of-game conflicts. (those all stem from him being an ******* in general.) I think its strange that this is an issue, but me playing female characters (often queer, as well) despite being male-perceived has never been an issue.

Personally, i think the D&D world (or at least a more traditional one, like Faerun) lends itself perfectly to people to being queer. Particularly in open-minded areas, such as Silverymoon and Waterdeep, it says many people have unique tastes in dress and lifestyle. That seems to imply to me, sexual lifestyles as well.
I think anyone who thinks it is particularly out of place is just trying to impose their preferences on others.

Well I don't fit into any of the categories of LBGT, but I did want to know if some players are playing a PC like that or have opinions or thoughts about it. I in particular played a character who was gay but became a dragonborn.

Anyway, I do agree with you that in this world (the world of D&D) that people who are exposed to these elements are likely to be more accepting of people of this category (mages and trans especially). I find that in areas like Waterdeep and Skarn, people are quite accepting of characters.

However, this is not to say individual interests, even comunities and cities, are not accepting of such things, just as the real world.
deldyrra
12-24-06, 10:16 PM Well I don't fit into any of the categories of LBGT

i feel the same way, as do alot of folks i know. As liberating as figureing out your identity can be, finding certain terms to describe it can be painfully restrictive. I use the term queer because its far more inclusive (though still somewhat limiting). My suggestion, if you find what i'm talking about interesting, is do some research about queer theory. I'm not trying to preach, its just helped me understand myself alot better. :]
Epilepticemu
12-25-06, 12:52 AM I'm a gay male, and I've played a gay male character before. It was actually kind of interesting. I played a gay bard (stereotypical?) who acted more "homosexual/flaming" than I as a person do. It was nice to see the group (and NPCs) start out as apprehensive, but slowly come to respect the huge range of power he brought to the group.

Give it a shot; it'll make for interesting gaming if nothing else.
AMGriffin
12-25-06, 01:35 PM It seems likely to me that the people who are the most tolerant of other races are also probably the most tolerant of other sexualities, while the dwarf who talks about how humans all ought to be hung from lampposts is probably the same guy who thinks gays ought to be burnt.

Seems like it would be that way,, doesn't it? I'd have to say however that isn't completely true.

For example: The Pastor at the church I used to attend (No longer religious), was in the million man march with Martin Luther King, but held the greatest of contempt for homosexuals.

Meanwhile, my aunt is a lesbian and tolerant of most any gender, but refers to asians as "Yellow Dog eaters" among other things.

Maybe they're both unique, maybe not. I think each specific racial culture would be a bit more unique.

Like elves for example, have a culture typically condescending towards non-elves, but as gender ambiguous and whimsy as they are, I'm sure bisexuality is somewhat common amongst them, like the Greeks.

Dwarves would probably be more or less wary of humans and other races, but not hateful. But as stoic and spartan as they are, homosexuality is more or less a big no no.

Other races like Gnomes, who are playful and friendly, probably wouldn't be all that worried about either (say for maybe goblins o_o).
Adolph_Kheebler
12-25-06, 08:42 PM I've played several gay characters in the backstory writing process. However the issue rarely comes up during a D&D game. If it came up they acted accordingly but it rarely came up. They were not stereotype gay, just gay. With one, the other players didn't even know because it simply didn't come up.

The only obvious one I did was my pixie sorcerer. He was, quite literaly and figuratively, a fairy. I couldn't resist doing that one. He loved dancing lights.
mkill
12-26-06, 08:51 AM Interesting question.

One of my favorite characters ever was a priest of a deity of love. Since this deity considered love in all of it's forms holy, he would be considered bisexual in modern terminology. For him, loving both men and women was a natural consequence of his religious belief. And as this was sanctioned by religion in this gaming world, it was never an issue. The only intimate scene that was played out to some extend happened with another player character, actually a woman played by a male player. Maybe this was my most "gay" moment in gaming so far.

Then, there is the crossdressing changeling (more out of an "hey I can do this" feel)... and I had a one or two gay people in my groups, and I remember a few gay characters (also played by straight people)...

Looks like the issue came up a few times, but I don't think LBTG has ever been a central topic when I played. Maybe I should try out a gay character, but I feel it might be too much of a caricature or stereotype. I'm not particularly good at portraying women either. Mhh.
Rell
12-26-06, 10:28 AM I'm straight myself, but one of the characters I've played the longest is an hermaph... erm, intersexed and androgyne person who currently disguises himself as a male (he's fooled the other PCs for a long, long time) but still is not too sure about his self-identity. He doesn't biologically make much sense and I know it. He's started as a cleric of Selune, and the other PCs but his identity problems are starting to make him split in two, one being the chaotic good male priest of Selune, and the other being the lawful good female priestess of a homebrew deity.

He's technically bisexual but, like with other characters here, there hasn't been a lot of loving in our games. I had included some in his backstory though, even if it hasn't resurfaced a lot.
Erugoth
12-26-06, 02:28 PM It depends on the amount of role-playing really. If sexuality could EVER come up then I say why not? In the campaign I'm currently playing in it comes up sometimes and even when it's not about hooking up you could just be overly-flirtatious to freak out the fighter (in character). No one in this campaign IS lbgt but several people are new to the entire concept of DnD and are learning how to roleplay and build character as they go along. It's just a matter of preference really.

If I ever did play one (maybe my next character) he would NOT be the stereotype. I don't like the stereotypes very much, but that's just my personal preference.:)
Otogi
12-26-06, 05:12 PM Well, now that we heard about gay men, what about the others? Who here has played a lesbian character? A bisexual character? A transgendered? How do you become transgendered in D&D?
Lissa
12-26-06, 05:39 PM I GM an PBeM D20 modern game where one of the PCs is gay. Most people the PC meets don't know or care. Only one female NPC was unhappy he was gay and that was only because she wanted to get to know him better. There's a major gay NPC who's a doctor and helps infertile couples have babies and will need the PCs' help soon.

The Hamster
Crimson_Concerto
12-28-06, 02:58 AM I'm currently in a campaign where during character creation, another player and I decided that since our characters had so much in common, they might know each other very well. I was still deciding between two builds and genders (one gender leaned more towards one build to me while the other towards the other). His character was already set to be male, and we decided that if I picked the female version, we would have the characters be lovers, which I thought would be fun to RP, but I liked the male version's build better.

He then suggested that maybe our characters could be gay, and I thought it was a great idea, so we've been going along with it. However, we've been keeping it a secret from the ohter players (the DM knows, though). We drop subtle hints every now and then, and we were almost caught once, but nobody has called us out yet. It's actually been very fun to RP. ^_^

(I don't go more into detail in case one of my fellow players in that campaign happens across this topic...)
darkhunter2007
01-06-07, 04:49 AM With a world of elves, dwarves, magic and flyng eyeballs that fire (frikkin') lasers from their eyes, don't you think that people may be a bit more open about these things?

By the way, what did you mean when you said remove?

i mean take it out like it never happend
just to freak out my player i did this:

you reach to the wiseman house...(blablabablablabala)
he tells you:do you want to lose weight-go up to the 2nd floor
......
you see a very neat elf woman and she tells you catch me and....
after hours of running he got her and.....
she tells him want to lose more,go to the 3rd floor....
.......
you see a black man like female(:weep: )
she tells you:"if i'll get you ill ..... you
:evillaugh :evillaugh :rofl: :OMG!
AMGriffin
01-08-07, 01:01 PM Well, now that we heard about gay men, what about the others? Who here has played a lesbian character? A bisexual character? A transgendered? How do you become transgendered in D&D?

As I said, I played a half-drow male who was in fact bisexual. The campaign was a pretty dark and morbid one (his mother was a drow priestess Raped by a paladin...long story). His bisexuality was just a character quirk, he ended up screwing two girls (wood elf and succubus) and one guy (half-elf) over the course of the campaign. He cared little for gender and once said: "It all ends the same."

I found him a fun character to play and still bring him out from time to time.

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Otogi 12-16-06, 04:34 PM	Has any ever played a LBGT character in D&D? If you have, what was it like? If you hate the idea, could you give a reason why? (Notes to administrators: Please do not send this to the Mature Boards. This question is merely to ask people about the life styles of characters, not about sexual issues or the like Note to others: LGBT: Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual and Transexual)
JulesCARV 12-17-06, 02:16 PM	I played an asexual woman once -- cleric of the Sovereign Host, and Kol Korran in particular. Not precisely the same as GLBT, but not conventionally "straight" either. It never came up, because the game fell apart shortly thereafter. There was no particular backstory reason she was asexual, and she wasn't really puritanical or prudish -- her hormones and mind just didn't cause her to find sex to be a particularly exciting urge.
Carey Z W 12-17-06, 04:32 PM	I played a gay dwarf one, with a preference for girly elves. From that point on in the campaign, there was not a SINGLE other important NPC created by the DM that was an elf. It was quite amusing though, and one of the players minded, (Cept the Elf wizard... poor guy.)
Otogi 12-20-06, 08:09 PM	I played an asexual woman once -- cleric of the Sovereign Host, and Kol Korran in particular. Not precisely the same as GLBT, but not conventionally "straight" either. It never came up, because the game fell apart shortly thereafter. There was no particular backstory reason she was asexual, and she wasn't really puritanical or prudish -- her hormones and mind just didn't cause her to find sex to be a particularly exciting urge. Not exactly what I ment, but your shooting in the right area. Sounds like it could have been an interesting characte, though
Otogi 12-20-06, 08:17 PM	I played a gay dwarf one, with a preference for girly elves. From that point on in the campaign, there was not a SINGLE other important NPC created by the DM that was an elf. It was quite amusing though, and one of the players minded, (Cept the Elf wizard... poor guy.) Well, I ment this for serious LGBT characters, but he does indeed sound amusing :clap:
evilgenius 12-20-06, 09:22 PM	As a DM, I've had gay NPCs, but none of my players have made characters like that. Sexuality is about 0% of our game, so it doesn't really come up. The few gay NPCs I introduced were from a warrior society, who were into male homosexuality as a part of their entire culture. Women were only for breeding and home defence, while the men were bound through their brotherhood of arms, esprit-de-corps and comraderie that extended into the physical. Modeled after the Spartans I suppose.
darkhunter2007 12-22-06, 03:58 AM	Has any ever played a LBGT character in D&D? If you have, what was it like? If you hate the idea, could you give a reason why? (Notes to administrators: Please do not send this to the Mature Boards. This question is merely to ask people about the life styles of characters, not about sexual issues or the like Note to others: LGBT: Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual and Transexual) Why do you ask such questions?i dubt someone does
Otogi 12-22-06, 08:47 AM	Well, I ask mostly to know if players have gone into different aspects of their characters, one of which was their feelings for other characters, even characters of te same gender (as situations as such are common when adventuring or trying to find the Sacred Tome of the Ancient Lizardfolk of the White Marsh or some such something). I also ask it as a players ability to craft charcters to great detail.
darkhunter2007 12-23-06, 10:27 AM	as i know people of the middle ages wheren't that seek as some people in our days-for a D&D game if something like that heppend in my game, it's only for a joke. -then i'll remove
AMGriffin 12-23-06, 11:27 AM	I played a sociopathic half-drow monk who was bisexual. He enjoyed nailing both men and women alike, and had a slight flair for rape. One of my most evil characters ever. Fun stuff!
Otogi 12-23-06, 10:04 PM	as i know people of the middle ages wheren't that seek as some people in our days-for a D&D game if something like that heppend in my game, it's only for a joke. -then i'll remove With a world of elves, dwarves, magic and flyng eyeballs that fire (frikkin') lasers from their eyes, don't you think that people may be a bit more open about these things? By the way, what did you mean when you said remove?
Eridrau 12-23-06, 10:40 PM	actually, about 50% of the characters I make are bisexual in some way. The only thing is, I either get stuck with the devout worshipers of the gods Hakkin Slash, and Monty Haul. It's difficult to role play even a heterosexual relationship when NPCs are little more than a plot device to railroad the rest of the party. (That said, anyone in the local area willing to host a campaign in the coming new year? :P) <Before the '0lDBez' act, I know there's a forum for that, it's a joke. J-O-K-E, you know?>
JulesCARV 12-24-06, 01:05 AM	With a world of elves, dwarves, magic and flyng eyeballs that fire (frikkin') lasers from their eyes, don't you think that people may be a bit more open about these things? This is often asserted, but I don't see much evidence for it. It's not as if periods in which racial persecution thrived were times when sex-based persecution languished, or periods in which having the wrong politics could lose you your job were periods in which no one cared about your sexual orientation. It isn't as if people are restricted to either hating halflings or hating lesbians: they can do both. It seems likely to me that the people who are the most tolerant of other races are also probably the most tolerant of other sexualities, while the dwarf who talks about how humans all ought to be hung from lampposts is probably the same guy who thinks gays ought to be burnt. (or whatever)
deldyrra 12-24-06, 03:30 AM	I'm really excited to see someone on the boards starting a discussion about this. Its an issue that comes up often for me, being a person who is both queer/trans and enjoys roleplaying and gamer culture (often hetero-centric and homophobic). For example, one campaign i play in, made up of 6 players. 4 of us are queer (just a less restrictive word for glbt), 1 is straight but open-minded, and the other is a conservative straight dude. One of my friends plays a bisexual Sune-worshiping sorceror of ambiguous gender. We have a pretty awesome DM, who works it in excellently to our adventures. This annoys the one close-minded straight guy, who says our campaign is too gay(haha), but our DM is skilled enough that he does it without making it too over-bearing or slowing down the game. And so, it rarely leads to out-of-game conflicts. (those all stem from him being an ******* in general.) I think its strange that this is an issue, but me playing female characters (often queer, as well) despite being male-perceived has never been an issue. Personally, i think the D&D world (or at least a more traditional one, like Faerun) lends itself perfectly to people to being queer. Particularly in open-minded areas, such as Silverymoon and Waterdeep, it says many people have unique tastes in dress and lifestyle. That seems to imply to me, sexual lifestyles as well. I think anyone who thinks it is particularly out of place is just trying to impose their preferences on others.
PiedmonSama 12-24-06, 05:07 AM	Never for D&D.... but one time I played World of Warcraft on an RP Server and decided that my Dwarf Paladin had joined the Order of the Silver Hand because he was, in fact, gay, and his wealthy parents had arranged a marriage for him to some sow of a Dwarven noblewoman. That's just as a jokey thing, obviously---I don't think I'd ever seriously try to RP a gay character.... although if you ask why, I couldn't give a real answer. It's not something that would ever be important, since sexuality has never come up in a game of ours. (Funny, in terms of violence all my games are at Tarantino/Slasher flick levels, but in terms of sex everything's strictly PG. Probably because there is no way I could look at DM Steve in the eye and say 'I rock her back gently as my fingers find her bra strap.' That would just be awkward as hell.)
Otogi 12-24-06, 11:11 AM	This is often asserted, but I don't see much evidence for it. It's not as if periods in which racial persecution thrived were times when sex-based persecution languished, or periods in which having the wrong politics could lose you your job were periods in which no one cared about your sexual orientation. It isn't as if people are restricted to either hating halflings or hating lesbians: they can do both. It seems likely to me that the people who are the most tolerant of other races are also probably the most tolerant of other sexualities, while the dwarf who talks about how humans all ought to be hung from lampposts is probably the same guy who thinks gays ought to be burnt. (or whatever) Point taken, but what I mean is that in a world where (does Pablo Fransicos impressionation of the guy at the movies) magic is power and monsters are everywhere, one man shouldn't have to worry about his sexual oriantation. The Gnome Wizard is sound effect "Gnomish spellcaster who takes intrest is same gender!". He's ready to talk about his lifestyle, are you? bows But seriously, with such elements, culture is sure to have some changes, though I see your point in individual opinions.
Otogi 12-24-06, 11:32 AM	I'm really excited to see someone on the boards starting a discussion about this. Its an issue that comes up often for me, being a person who is both queer/trans and enjoys roleplaying and gamer culture (often hetero-centric and homophobic). For example, one campaign i play in, made up of 6 players. 4 of us are queer (just a less restrictive word for glbt), 1 is straight but open-minded, and the other is a conservative straight dude. One of my friends plays a bisexual Sune-worshiping sorceror of ambiguous gender. We have a pretty awesome DM, who works it in excellently to our adventures. This annoys the one close-minded straight guy, who says our campaign is too gay(haha), but our DM is skilled enough that he does it without making it too over-bearing or slowing down the game. And so, it rarely leads to out-of-game conflicts. (those all stem from him being an ******* in general.) I think its strange that this is an issue, but me playing female characters (often queer, as well) despite being male-perceived has never been an issue. Personally, i think the D&D world (or at least a more traditional one, like Faerun) lends itself perfectly to people to being queer. Particularly in open-minded areas, such as Silverymoon and Waterdeep, it says many people have unique tastes in dress and lifestyle. That seems to imply to me, sexual lifestyles as well. I think anyone who thinks it is particularly out of place is just trying to impose their preferences on others. Well I don't fit into any of the categories of LBGT, but I did want to know if some players are playing a PC like that or have opinions or thoughts about it. I in particular played a character who was gay but became a dragonborn. Anyway, I do agree with you that in this world (the world of D&D) that people who are exposed to these elements are likely to be more accepting of people of this category (mages and trans especially). I find that in areas like Waterdeep and Skarn, people are quite accepting of characters. However, this is not to say individual interests, even comunities and cities, are not accepting of such things, just as the real world.
deldyrra 12-24-06, 10:16 PM	Well I don't fit into any of the categories of LBGT i feel the same way, as do alot of folks i know. As liberating as figureing out your identity can be, finding certain terms to describe it can be painfully restrictive. I use the term queer because its far more inclusive (though still somewhat limiting). My suggestion, if you find what i'm talking about interesting, is do some research about queer theory. I'm not trying to preach, its just helped me understand myself alot better. :]
Epilepticemu 12-25-06, 12:52 AM	I'm a gay male, and I've played a gay male character before. It was actually kind of interesting. I played a gay bard (stereotypical?) who acted more "homosexual/flaming" than I as a person do. It was nice to see the group (and NPCs) start out as apprehensive, but slowly come to respect the huge range of power he brought to the group. Give it a shot; it'll make for interesting gaming if nothing else.
AMGriffin 12-25-06, 01:35 PM	It seems likely to me that the people who are the most tolerant of other races are also probably the most tolerant of other sexualities, while the dwarf who talks about how humans all ought to be hung from lampposts is probably the same guy who thinks gays ought to be burnt. Seems like it would be that way,, doesn't it? I'd have to say however that isn't completely true. For example: The Pastor at the church I used to attend (No longer religious), was in the million man march with Martin Luther King, but held the greatest of contempt for homosexuals. Meanwhile, my aunt is a lesbian and tolerant of most any gender, but refers to asians as "Yellow Dog eaters" among other things. Maybe they're both unique, maybe not. I think each specific racial culture would be a bit more unique. Like elves for example, have a culture typically condescending towards non-elves, but as gender ambiguous and whimsy as they are, I'm sure bisexuality is somewhat common amongst them, like the Greeks. Dwarves would probably be more or less wary of humans and other races, but not hateful. But as stoic and spartan as they are, homosexuality is more or less a big no no. Other races like Gnomes, who are playful and friendly, probably wouldn't be all that worried about either (say for maybe goblins o_o).
Adolph_Kheebler 12-25-06, 08:42 PM	I've played several gay characters in the backstory writing process. However the issue rarely comes up during a D&D game. If it came up they acted accordingly but it rarely came up. They were not stereotype gay, just gay. With one, the other players didn't even know because it simply didn't come up. The only obvious one I did was my pixie sorcerer. He was, quite literaly and figuratively, a fairy. I couldn't resist doing that one. He loved dancing lights.
mkill 12-26-06, 08:51 AM	Interesting question. One of my favorite characters ever was a priest of a deity of love. Since this deity considered love in all of it's forms holy, he would be considered bisexual in modern terminology. For him, loving both men and women was a natural consequence of his religious belief. And as this was sanctioned by religion in this gaming world, it was never an issue. The only intimate scene that was played out to some extend happened with another player character, actually a woman played by a male player. Maybe this was my most "gay" moment in gaming so far. Then, there is the crossdressing changeling (more out of an "hey I can do this" feel)... and I had a one or two gay people in my groups, and I remember a few gay characters (also played by straight people)... Looks like the issue came up a few times, but I don't think LBTG has ever been a central topic when I played. Maybe I should try out a gay character, but I feel it might be too much of a caricature or stereotype. I'm not particularly good at portraying women either. Mhh.
Rell 12-26-06, 10:28 AM	I'm straight myself, but one of the characters I've played the longest is an hermaph... erm, intersexed and androgyne person who currently disguises himself as a male (he's fooled the other PCs for a long, long time) but still is not too sure about his self-identity. He doesn't biologically make much sense and I know it. He's started as a cleric of Selune, and the other PCs but his identity problems are starting to make him split in two, one being the chaotic good male priest of Selune, and the other being the lawful good female priestess of a homebrew deity. He's technically bisexual but, like with other characters here, there hasn't been a lot of loving in our games. I had included some in his backstory though, even if it hasn't resurfaced a lot.
Erugoth 12-26-06, 02:28 PM	It depends on the amount of role-playing really. If sexuality could EVER come up then I say why not? In the campaign I'm currently playing in it comes up sometimes and even when it's not about hooking up you could just be overly-flirtatious to freak out the fighter (in character). No one in this campaign IS lbgt but several people are new to the entire concept of DnD and are learning how to roleplay and build character as they go along. It's just a matter of preference really. If I ever did play one (maybe my next character) he would NOT be the stereotype. I don't like the stereotypes very much, but that's just my personal preference.:)
Otogi 12-26-06, 05:12 PM	Well, now that we heard about gay men, what about the others? Who here has played a lesbian character? A bisexual character? A transgendered? How do you become transgendered in D&D?
Lissa 12-26-06, 05:39 PM	I GM an PBeM D20 modern game where one of the PCs is gay. Most people the PC meets don't know or care. Only one female NPC was unhappy he was gay and that was only because she wanted to get to know him better. There's a major gay NPC who's a doctor and helps infertile couples have babies and will need the PCs' help soon. The Hamster
Crimson_Concerto 12-28-06, 02:58 AM	I'm currently in a campaign where during character creation, another player and I decided that since our characters had so much in common, they might know each other very well. I was still deciding between two builds and genders (one gender leaned more towards one build to me while the other towards the other). His character was already set to be male, and we decided that if I picked the female version, we would have the characters be lovers, which I thought would be fun to RP, but I liked the male version's build better. He then suggested that maybe our characters could be gay, and I thought it was a great idea, so we've been going along with it. However, we've been keeping it a secret from the ohter players (the DM knows, though). We drop subtle hints every now and then, and we were almost caught once, but nobody has called us out yet. It's actually been very fun to RP. ^_^ (I don't go more into detail in case one of my fellow players in that campaign happens across this topic...)
darkhunter2007 01-06-07, 04:49 AM	With a world of elves, dwarves, magic and flyng eyeballs that fire (frikkin') lasers from their eyes, don't you think that people may be a bit more open about these things? By the way, what did you mean when you said remove? i mean take it out like it never happend just to freak out my player i did this: you reach to the wiseman house...(blablabablablabala) he tells you:do you want to lose weight-go up to the 2nd floor ...... you see a very neat elf woman and she tells you catch me and.... after hours of running he got her and..... she tells him want to lose more,go to the 3rd floor.... ....... you see a black man like female(:weep: ) she tells you:"if i'll get you ill ..... you :evillaugh :evillaugh :rofl: :OMG!
AMGriffin 01-08-07, 01:01 PM	Well, now that we heard about gay men, what about the others? Who here has played a lesbian character? A bisexual character? A transgendered? How do you become transgendered in D&D? As I said, I played a half-drow male who was in fact bisexual. The campaign was a pretty dark and morbid one (his mother was a drow priestess Raped by a paladin...long story). His bisexuality was just a character quirk, he ended up screwing two girls (wood elf and succubus) and one guy (half-elf) over the course of the campaign. He cared little for gender and once said: "It all ends the same." I found him a fun character to play and still bring him out from time to time.