One of our players can't play for his life [Archive] - Wizards Community

One of our players can't play for his life [Archive] - Wizards Community

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Dell Kallyan
01-31-04, 03:18 PM My group used to just be our DM and 3 players, but a friend of ours found out we played and we invited him to join us. Well, the DM didn't want to let him join, but let him join us since me and another player convinced him. It seemed like a good idea, the new kid knew the game mechanics... but once he started to actually play it turned out he had no clue how to play whatsoever (like role play).

I played with his old DM once and heard about their sessions (after we started playing with the new kid), and basically nothing they [his old group] do is serious. In fact, once they had Arnold Schwarzeneggar as an NPC and they started a revolution in a small DND town... and thats just one example, I could give a bunch more.

Anyway, when he plays all he does is random stuff and pisses everyone else off. As a halfling wizard he decided to try to get the party killed because he was "bored with his character." Then he made a ranger, who has no alignment: one second he acts LG and decided to risk his life to attack an evil villian, then (literally) a few seconds later he tells the party we should kill an NPC in our party and take a valuable item he has. Then later we had a prisoner that worked for the aforementioned villian, and he yelled at the party for keeping him captive, then proceeded to kick the prisoner after the prisoner asked to be freed, and then when our barbarian tried to intimidate the prisoner to get information out of him, the ranger yelled at us for being mean to the prisoner. That was his 3rd character in the last two levels of our characters...

Out of character we don't dislike the player, he is just not really the same kind of player as us. We've basically slowly played with him less and less and he hasn't been to a session in a while, so he actually started playing with his old group again. Sure, my group goofs off occasionally (but thats why I have a CN rogue that likes to play pranks and make puns, so I can be a good player and mess around) but I mean, seriously, that guy was way out of it.

Anyone else have something like this happen to them?
Zendu
01-31-04, 07:50 PM yes, and unfortunetly, i am the dm. none of us roleplay enough imo, but the newest player is really lacking

you might try a couple things, tell him, that although he has the physics of the game down, hes missing all the fun, which is why he wants to kill his characters.

tell him to be a actor, and that he is playing a character he read about in a book ( or watched in a movie ) yes it can be lame, but he can at least get a idea or two

try to get him to make his own character, if he were teleported back in time, or whatever [note, this compltly eliminates spellcasters, since i dont know anyone who can cast spells, and i doubt you do, but who said the fact he wont play one is a bad idea.]

if my party were a real party
rouge (me) sigh
barbarian
fighter
monk
sorcerer i think, who forgot how to cast spells?
NZCardinal
02-03-04, 05:43 AM One of your players can't play for his life?

*MAKE HIM PLAY FOR HIS LIFE* :b:
Sisyfos
02-04-04, 09:58 AM If it does not work out even after a serious talk then just tell him its not working out. It seems that for you it went easily as he left your group without such an session. There might be situations though when some member of the group just does not fit in with the game. They are too much a diablo type of a player when others want to play myst style. You are not playing the same game at those moments. The solution is to talk about it and if that does not work out, then just change the group a bit until it is working out... The point is, ofcourse, to have fun together

Sisyfos
burning_blood
02-04-04, 11:06 AM All of our players were (and still are) friends in RL before we started playing. We ended up kicking out one guy, though -- fortunately he didn't mind too much. His favourite pastime during a session was to whip dice the other player's crotches. When he tired of that, he would make endless OOG comments and wisecracks which, while genuinely funny, derailed the adventure for several minutes at a time. Most of his characters were chaotic neutral womanizers with a big chip on their shoulder, who would pick senseless barfights and constantly hit on any female PC's.

So we let him DM.

In one of the first sessions he ran we somehow ticked off the local barkeep, who turned out to be a retired lvl 20 fighter with Str 18/00 (this was 2e), wearing plate mail under his apron and keeping a great axe behind the counter. That conflict ended with the party's paladin firing a flaming arrow into the bar and igniting all the alcohol. BOOM.

A little later on he decided to "punish" one the players for playing a female character (he felt the player wanted a female character for immature reasons, which wasn't true). So he had the character kidnapped by the BBEG wizard, and then spent the next forty-five minutes describing in graphic detail what happened to her during her captivity. The exact details would only be appropriate for the mature forums. It was really, really twisted.

We stopped playing with him not too long after that. The sessions were never boring when he was around, but we were tired of having to shield our groins from his dice. We told him what the problem was, that his constant goofing off was too distracting, and we didn't want him to play anymore. He didn't mind, apparently we took our playing too seriously for his taste. We're all still friends, we just don't play D&D with him.

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Dell Kallyan 01-31-04, 03:18 PM	My group used to just be our DM and 3 players, but a friend of ours found out we played and we invited him to join us. Well, the DM didn't want to let him join, but let him join us since me and another player convinced him. It seemed like a good idea, the new kid knew the game mechanics... but once he started to actually play it turned out he had no clue how to play whatsoever (like role play). I played with his old DM once and heard about their sessions (after we started playing with the new kid), and basically nothing they [his old group] do is serious. In fact, once they had Arnold Schwarzeneggar as an NPC and they started a revolution in a small DND town... and thats just one example, I could give a bunch more. Anyway, when he plays all he does is random stuff and pisses everyone else off. As a halfling wizard he decided to try to get the party killed because he was "bored with his character." Then he made a ranger, who has no alignment: one second he acts LG and decided to risk his life to attack an evil villian, then (literally) a few seconds later he tells the party we should kill an NPC in our party and take a valuable item he has. Then later we had a prisoner that worked for the aforementioned villian, and he yelled at the party for keeping him captive, then proceeded to kick the prisoner after the prisoner asked to be freed, and then when our barbarian tried to intimidate the prisoner to get information out of him, the ranger yelled at us for being mean to the prisoner. That was his 3rd character in the last two levels of our characters... Out of character we don't dislike the player, he is just not really the same kind of player as us. We've basically slowly played with him less and less and he hasn't been to a session in a while, so he actually started playing with his old group again. Sure, my group goofs off occasionally (but thats why I have a CN rogue that likes to play pranks and make puns, so I can be a good player and mess around) but I mean, seriously, that guy was way out of it. Anyone else have something like this happen to them?
Zendu 01-31-04, 07:50 PM	yes, and unfortunetly, i am the dm. none of us roleplay enough imo, but the newest player is really lacking you might try a couple things, tell him, that although he has the physics of the game down, hes missing all the fun, which is why he wants to kill his characters. tell him to be a actor, and that he is playing a character he read about in a book ( or watched in a movie ) yes it can be lame, but he can at least get a idea or two try to get him to make his own character, if he were teleported back in time, or whatever [note, this compltly eliminates spellcasters, since i dont know anyone who can cast spells, and i doubt you do, but who said the fact he wont play one is a bad idea.] if my party were a real party rouge (me) sigh barbarian fighter monk sorcerer i think, who forgot how to cast spells?
NZCardinal 02-03-04, 05:43 AM	One of your players can't play for his life? MAKE HIM PLAY FOR HIS LIFE :b:
Sisyfos 02-04-04, 09:58 AM	If it does not work out even after a serious talk then just tell him its not working out. It seems that for you it went easily as he left your group without such an session. There might be situations though when some member of the group just does not fit in with the game. They are too much a diablo type of a player when others want to play myst style. You are not playing the same game at those moments. The solution is to talk about it and if that does not work out, then just change the group a bit until it is working out... The point is, ofcourse, to have fun together Sisyfos
burning_blood 02-04-04, 11:06 AM	All of our players were (and still are) friends in RL before we started playing. We ended up kicking out one guy, though -- fortunately he didn't mind too much. His favourite pastime during a session was to whip dice the other player's crotches. When he tired of that, he would make endless OOG comments and wisecracks which, while genuinely funny, derailed the adventure for several minutes at a time. Most of his characters were chaotic neutral womanizers with a big chip on their shoulder, who would pick senseless barfights and constantly hit on any female PC's. So we let him DM. In one of the first sessions he ran we somehow ticked off the local barkeep, who turned out to be a retired lvl 20 fighter with Str 18/00 (this was 2e), wearing plate mail under his apron and keeping a great axe behind the counter. That conflict ended with the party's paladin firing a flaming arrow into the bar and igniting all the alcohol. BOOM. A little later on he decided to "punish" one the players for playing a female character (he felt the player wanted a female character for immature reasons, which wasn't true). So he had the character kidnapped by the BBEG wizard, and then spent the next forty-five minutes describing in graphic detail what happened to her during her captivity. The exact details would only be appropriate for the mature forums. It was really, really twisted. We stopped playing with him not too long after that. The sessions were never boring when he was around, but we were tired of having to shield our groins from his dice. We told him what the problem was, that his constant goofing off was too distracting, and we didn't want him to play anymore. He didn't mind, apparently we took our playing too seriously for his taste. We're all still friends, we just don't play D&D with him.