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Althor Enchantor 04-14-04, 10:41 AM	Wheel of Time: Perrin- Easy; he's a Ranger. Max out his ranks in Craft: Blacksmithing, give him a Wolf animal companion (or if you're doing 3.0, a horde of wolves), and have him wield a Battleaxe and a Warhammer with that Hammer/Axe Fighting Style feat from the Complete Warrior. Mat- Swashbuckler. Have him specialize in throwing daggers, and work with your DM to allow a Spear or Longspear to be used like a Quarterstaff and with Weapon Finesse. Rand- A few levels of Monk and Sorcerer, then perhaps a couple levels in that Draconimicon PrC that Min/Maxers love to level dip their Sorcs into, and then Eldritch Knight until you can cast epic-level spells (like Balefire). Nynaeve- Tough one. I'd go with a spontaneous divine caster, or perhaps a cleric of a nature deity, and max out your ranks in Heal, Survival, and other skills that a woodsman might use. Lord of the Rings: Gandalf- I'm only going to say this once: I'm trying to SIMPLIFY. Thus, I'm trying to pick a CORE CLASS that exemplifies what he does during the MAIN storyline. Anyone yelling "J00 SuXXoRz!!!111!1 GANDALF IZ Da L33T3ST C3L3ST14L!!!!11!1!11" will be smacked because I'm trying to say what classes a HUMAN would take to be able to do all the things that Gandalf did. ...That being said, assuming 3.5 Core rules, I think that Gandalf is a Bard. Think about it: he casts arcane spells, but not a single fireball. He can heal, if only a little, and can cast animal messenger and a few illusions/enchantments. He knows lots of ancient lore (high Knowledge skill), more so than just about anyone (bardic knowledge), and he can inspire troops to fight harder by giving some moving speeches (Bardic Music using Perform: Oratory). He seems pretty well-versed in court politics (high diplomacy check), and he's not half-bad in melee with a staff or a Goblin Bane Longsword. Anyone want to add? (to the main topic, not to another crazy debate over Gandalf)
JohnSnow 04-15-04, 03:00 PM	Actually, the WoT characters don't translate perfectly to D&D because the magic system is different (and WoT is sorta 'low-magic' by conventional D&D standards). That said, I think the characters can be modeled. I'd use the slightly modified system from Fantasy Flight's Midnight to simulate their powers. Midnight uses the D&D classes of Fighter, Rogue and Barbarian, but dumps the rest and replaces Ranger with 'Wildlander,' all spellcasters with 'Channeler' and adds a 'Defender' class to fill the monk role. It also has the "heroic paths" to simulate characters who were "born special." Perrin: Perrin's a Wildlander, with ranks in Craft: Blacksmith. He's also got the "wolfbrother" (I think that's even the name of it) heroic path. Mat: Mat's a rogue, pure, simple and straight up. He's proficient with the quarterstaff and daggers. He may add a few fighter levels and take a prestige "commander" class, along with Exotic Weapon Proficiency: Ashanderei. He's also got either the "blood of heroes" or "chanceborn" heroic path, probably the latter. Rand: He's a Wildlander, and later Fighter who takes the magic-blooded feat at first level and later multiclasses to Channeler. He also manages levels of a Prestige "Blademaster" class. His heroic path? Easy...Dragonblooded...;-) (yes, that really is the name of a path). And probably one or two others (Rand is REALLY special, after all). Nynaeve: Channeler, with a heroic path that raises the power of her spells, but she knows very few. She's also got some kind of a block. Maybe a "Wilder" heroic path? Egwene: Channeler from level 1, who changes into the Prestige "Aes Sedai" class (a high-level channeler prestige class). It simulates the characters perfectly. Frighteningly well. Better than the Wheel of Time game does, in fact. You'd just have to go through the spell list, alter the "schools" of magic slightly (each school requires a feat in Midnight), create some WoT appropriate prestige classes (Aes Sedai, Warder, Gleeman), and add some new heroic paths. Done and done.
Aluroon 04-17-04, 08:56 PM	Hum, i always thought Gandalf was more of a Celestial, rather then a human, being as he lived for hundreds of years, and was one of only a hand full of people who could use magic, however you make a very convincing argument about the idea of Gandalf being a Bard. Sorry I am not trying to start a debate, I am just pointing out you opened my eyes to a new way of looking at Gandalf and am lauding you for it. I have not had a chance to read the Wheel of Time (i think thats what your talking about with WoT) as I have been reading George R R Martin recently, namly his Song of Fire and Ice serius. Anyone who has read that serius knows how addictive it can be, and how long it takes to get though it. I find it disterbing that you did not post anything on Terry Brooks Shannara serius, although I confess that I have trouble off the top of my head thinking of a way to turn his charictors into DnD charictors, however I will take a stab at turning a few into dnd charictors for the purpuse of continuning this discusion. Shea (this is at the end of the Sword of Shannara) Level 1 Commoner/Level 2 Expert/Level 1 Warrior HalfHuman/Shannara Desendent Elf The Commoner because he seamed to be rather common, then during his teenage years he became rather skilled at several crafts, although he was still not very proficant with weapons. He picked up his level of warrior during the quest for the sword where he leaned to use many new weapons and became far more skilled at warfare. For feats I have no idea as he was, once agin unskilled at most things, save common household skills. I almost took at stab at the druids of four lands, however I need to read the books agin to remeber enough to even give it a decent chance of being half correct. The further problum is the world of Shannara is horrobly low magic, and so most of the abillitys are difficult to trade over, although i belive that in an issue of dragon mag that had a shannara world. Thats all from me
JohnSnow 04-20-04, 03:09 PM	Originally posted by Aluroon I have not had a chance to read the Wheel of Time (i think thats what your talking about with WoT) as I have been reading George R R Martin recently, namly his Song of Fire and Ice serius. Anyone who has read that serius knows how addictive it can be, and how long it takes to get though it. Yep...Okay, since you're a Martin fan, Martin's world is also strongly low-magic, although it builds slightly with every novel. The Ranger class in Martin's world can be done either with the Complete Warrior spell-less Ranger, or the Wildlander class from Midnight. That said, I offer the following: Jon Snow(yes, I know a little bit about this character) - Jon is a multiclass Fighter/Ranger who qualifies for the "Ranger of the Night's Watch" prestige class. Jon starts as a Ranger 1/Fighter 1 multiclass, picks up an animal companion (a young dire wolf). After joining the Night's Watch, Jon picks up a few more fighter levels, takes Exotic Weapon Proficiency: Bastard Sword, Weapon Focus: Bastard Sword, and Weapon Specialization: Bastard Sword. He also has a Valarean Steel (special material unique to this world) Bastard Sword. Eddard (Ned) Stark - Ned is also a fighter, but as a Northern lord, he also has ranger (or Midnight Wildlander) levels. Rob Stark - Rob is a straight fighter, all the way. He could have Ranger levels, like his father or Jon, but there's nothing in the books to indicate that. I could do all the Stark children, but my books are at home, and I can't remember all their names. The youngest daughter becomes a Swashbuckler (from Complete Warrior). Martin's world lacks most spellcasters, and it seems there's only one cleric of any note. Most of the characters are fighters, rogues, swashbucklers, rangers/wildlanders, or barbarians. There's also probably a few people with the "noble" class from Dragonlance, and various prestige classes. Ranger of the Night's Watch, Cavalier, Warmaster, Duelist and a few others come to mind. The key to Martin's world is LOW-MAGIC.
Aluroon 04-22-04, 08:44 PM	Yep, low magic...NOT Try ultra low magic. I have as yet seen a hand full casters in the entire serius, although he seams to indicate that that lands other then the 7 kingdoms are more likely to have more spellcasters. I find it fasinating that neather the King of the North, Robb, nor the King of the Iron Throne Jefferys(Spl?) enployed anyone using magic. In fact the only 2 of any kind that used spellcasters were some petty noble who had that monk who worshiped a fire deity (the one the captured Arya) and Lord Stannis (the ruby socrceres). Hum, lets take a stab at some characters. Arya: A rogue/swashbuckler. Low str, high dex, weapon fineiss (elven lightblade). Sansa: A aristacrat level ?2?. Maxed deplomacy and bluff. Brand?: 2 levels of rogue, although many of his skills are not useless due to his shattered legs. might have picked up a few druid levels in the last book or maybe some form of phionus class? Jeffery: Level 2 aristacrat/Level 1 Fighter- Very low wisdom and a borderline intelegence. The Hound: Level 5 fighter/Level 1 Ranger (favorite enemy knights). Weapon focus, specialization ect with longsword and lance. Stannes: Level 4 fighter, meadiocer stats. Knight of the flowers: Level 4 fighter, very high charisma Jamie: The kingslayer. Level 7 Fighter. Now lost his fighting hand -2 dex -2 str. Tyrion (De Imp De Imp): Level 2 fighter/level 1 arristacrat More when I have time.
m15a 04-23-04, 01:47 PM	wow. i hope nobody who hasn't read storm of swords (and was planning on it) read that last post. (maybe you could change it? i know i'd die if i read that post before the book.) . . . strange that you mentioned the death of some characters and not the others . . i don't think it's so surprising that the kings don't make use of magic, as it is barely known. it's more of myths and things that existed in the distant past to most. i think your choices are more or less on, although i'd give tyrion some rogue levels. mostly because he has so many skills. (or maybe that can be taken care of with a high int, which he definitely has.) for stats and alignment, i'd say: rickon: CN, well. he's still pretty young, so i don't know how to stat him. :-) bran: NG, high dex, i'd say fairly high wis. arya: CG, high dex, low str, low cha (well, like, 8 or 10 maybe) sansa: LG, high cha, not so high int or wis jon: NG, high dex, high str, high int, . . . um, let's just say high everything. (not necesarily all spectacular - but he's a well rounded fighter/ranger/aristocrat.) robb: LG, high str, high int catelyn: LG, high cha, low wis maybe. :-) eddard: LG, high cha, high str --- tyrion: CN (maybe turning good, maybe not . . ), high high int, low cha, low str jaime: LN, high str, dex, int, cha cersei: LE, superhigh cha, high int tywin: LE, high int ---- okay. that's enough for now. there are hundreds of characters in these books. (and half of them are named walder.) [testing edit]
Aluroon 04-23-04, 05:04 PM	AHH My mistake, I became to focused on the talk with JohnSnow and frogot that other people might have read part of, but not all of the books, although I have trouble beliving that once you start with Martin you can stop ever you run out of books. I really cant weight for the next book "A Feast of Crows" (bit of a spoiler in the tittle says I) to answer the many, many questions the third book left unanswered. As for editing my post, I'm alittle embarrised to admit this but I am unsure who exactly as I have tryed on other posts and been unable to figure it out. As far as your Aligments I think for the most part your right, although I will point out a few things here. Tyrion IMO is more of a true neutrel with some lawful good tendencys. Bran also appears to have a good intelegenace score. I would like to point out that (and I dont think this is to much of a spoiler because it happens in what the first 50 pages of book one?) Bran has lost much of his dex, as well as much of his str and con due to his fall. Thats about all. Tanks
m15a 04-25-04, 02:04 AM	i just tried editting, and i think all you need to do is hit the edit button under your post. i assume you also have to be logged in at the time. i agree about tyrion. i changed my mind a little while after the post. good point about bran. and maybe an important one. he's lost his physical ability and he's probably too young to realize the importance of mental ones just yet . . . but we'll see. um, we should probably open up this thread again. what other characters are there out there? :-)
Brand Finbuck 04-26-04, 02:06 PM	Gandalf should be a celestial sorceror/cleric/mystic theurge of particularly high level. Gandalf is essentially an angel in human form. Regardless of how you assign his race, the class progression listed above suits him best in my opinion. He had access to all forms of magic, but the LoTR universe is different in that all magic corrupts the caster, so it must be used very very sparingly to maintain proper alignment. He would focus primarily on defensive magic and enhancement and abjuration.
Wickerbull 04-27-04, 09:49 PM	Man, Aluroon, that was harsh. I guess that means.........I'm flaming you? Anyway, I did stats for Shrek. Not from the movie, but from the William Steig kids' book. I'll post them when I can find the time. If I remember, he's an ogre mage Monster of Legend, with some special abilities traded for others. No class lvls, but an ECL of 19.
jaydubyadub 04-28-04, 01:37 PM	Hey, here's a thought, why not use the Wheel of Time game to describe the Wheel of Time characters? :rant:
Wickerbull 04-28-04, 10:02 PM	Hmm..........I think I'll pass. Anyway, I didn't mean you any offense. I was being sarcastic. So, I'll be getting this thread back on track with my next post, those stats for Shrek.
Agent Rasp 04-30-04, 12:10 PM	From the Sword of Truth: Richard Cypher: I would guess a low-level Ranger at the outset, perhaps with 1 level of Sorcerer to explain his inherent magic. Follow that with levels in a "Seeker of Truth" PrC, then build up the magic with a "War Wizard" PrC. Kahlan Amnell: At least one level of Aristocrat to reflect her high status and upbringing, and maxed-out levels in a "Confessor" PrC. She most likely started out with Sorcerer levels, although one might be able to make a case for Kahlan as a Bard focused in Oratory. Zeddicus Z'ul Zorander: Magic in SoT works more like D&D "sorcery" than "wizardry," but Zedd definitely has the knowledge of a high-level Wizard. Give him levels in a "Wizard of the 1st Order" PrC and lots of metamagic feats rather than item creation. Darken Rahl: High-level Wizard, most likely with one or more Vile spellcasting PrCs tacked on. Is there a "Seriously Evil S.O.B." class? From the Wheel of Time: Lan: Clear-cut Fighter, with "Warder" and "Blademaster" PrCs. Min: Definitely a Rogue, but explaining her visions is another matter. I'd figure them for a supernatural special ability, as opposed to a PrC, since neither the nature of the visions or her command of them seems to improve or worsen during the story; perhaps a permanent form of the psionic power of aura sight?
SmiloDan 05-02-04, 12:18 PM	Vlad Taltos (from Steven Brust's "Jhereg" series). He's an assassin, a sorcerer (a citizen capable of tapping into the Imperial Orb for magical powers) and a witch (capable of using ritual to get a magical effect). He can teleport, but he's not a powerful mage. He's probably has weapon finesse, quickdraw, and PBS, RS, and MS. A Fighter/Druid/Rogue/Wizard/Assassin?
allenchan 05-04-04, 12:24 AM	Indiana Jones Swashbuckler 5 / Lasher 10 / Temple Raider of Olidammara 5
ZebRaderJedi 05-08-04, 12:46 AM	Originally posted by SmiloDan Vlad Taltos (from Steven Brust's "Jhereg" series). He's an assassin, a sorcerer (a citizen capable of tapping into the Imperial Orb for magical powers) and a witch (capable of using ritual to get a magical effect). He can teleport, but he's not a powerful mage. He's probably has weapon finesse, quickdraw, and PBS, RS, and MS. A Fighter/Druid/Rogue/Wizard/Assassin? I've mulled over Vlad quite a bit too...with the release of XPH, and a psionics system that I actually like, I'm leaning towards being able to "build" Vlad as a psionic character, rather than as an arcane caster. Top of my head: Option #1 Psychic Warrior 16 / Rogue 2 / Assassin 2 Option #2 Psion 10 / Swashbuckler (CW) 3 / Rogue 4 / Assassin 3 We'd have to give him (through feats or whatnot) access to Mindlink, Teleport, and Energy Bolt at the least. Gestalting might work for him better.... Option #3 Say, a Psion 10/Swashbucker10 // Rogue 10/Assassin 10? My as-yet not fleshed out thought is that "witchcraft" in Brust's world works more like psionics & augmentation. Though the raising of Morrolan's (Gestalt Fighter 20 / Psion 20 ??) castle via dozens/hundreds of witches seem to indicate epic magic rather than augmentation....though it could be a meta-concert or whatever that is called. Just some thoughts, what do you all think? Cheers, Zeb
lyk'qrez'xren 05-10-04, 12:17 AM	i dunno if any of yu play warhammer or warhammer 40,000. or read any of the novels. i dont play the game but i did read a book called vampire slayer that is part of that series and one of the characters that stands out is snorri nosebiter. he's pretty easy to write up and i've played as him before. dwarf barbarian with stupidly high strength and stupidly low intelligence. important feats would be ambidexterity, two-weapon fighting, and exotic weapon proficiency dwarven waraxe. he wields a waraxe and warhammer into battle . has complete disregard for his own well being(slayers are dwarves who have commited such horrible sins that the only way of atoning for them is to fight against all evil and die honorable in the midst of battle while taking as many foes with you as possible.). he is described as being the strongest, widest, largest dwarf ever seen by man. an extremley fun character to play.
Dawnspeaker 05-11-04, 09:43 AM	Well here is one that hasn't shown up yet and I'm a bit surprised. I'm not doing levels because I'm still in the first book but Elric-Fighter/Conjurer/Eldricht Knight (Doing the Conjurer because he seems to alawys summon things to do stuff for him so seemed appropriate, and Eldricht Knight stops him from being uber levels because fo how powerful he was suppose to be in his magic. I figure low level fighter/mid-level conj/mid to high knight) and o'course you have his intelligent artifact weapon, Stormbringer.
Keebler 05-12-04, 09:48 PM	Why don't we try some r a salvatore characters in 3.0? I don't like how they are in the demonwars handbook. Elbryan: Fighter/ranger, mainly fighter as i see him using less ranger class abilities (other than favored enemy) and more using ranger skills. I would say 1 level of ranger and maybe 15 or so levels of fighter. Avelyn: I would say cleric/monk, taking the cleric levels after the monk ones, as he seems to get stronger in power as the book progresses, but his melee fighting doesnt seem to really improve. Roger: Rouge, no multiclassing nessesary. He never seems to me to do anything that a high-level rouge couldn't do. De'Unnero: I would say monk with a few levels in that class that let you transform into a bear when you raged (bear warrior?), altered to change you into a tiger. Pony: I cannot see how Pony could be as good as she is without being epic. She has levels of commoner or expert from her early life. She has fighter from her coastpoint guards training. Cleric and wizard for the VAST array of powerful spells she can cast. Maybe a level in aristocrat from her time in Danube's court. I don't think she has ranger as she never really uses ranger skills. Aydrian: I would say a half-demon fighter/cleric that can hide his demonic nature.
Mysteria 05-13-04, 01:07 PM	Uhm ... does anyone have an idea what Samuel Vimes would be? Some sort of Rogue/Barbarian? (I just finished reading Night Watch. :D) I've been wondering about what his alignement would be too, but I think I'm in the wrong thread for that. :angel:
Big_Nose 05-18-04, 07:03 PM	I've had an interesting idea for this: The Davnci Code would be an interesting book to flesh out characters for. (Or Angels and Demons, for that matter!) Robert Langdon feels like an Expert with lots of ranks of Knowledge. Perhaps a level of Bard for those Bardic Knowledge abilities to represent his sudden realization of things from the Code. Silas would be diffacult to class. He was described as a monk if I remember correctly. But, he felt a bit more like a fighter/rogue that focused on his Fists. (He never acted exceptionally fast-like in the few combats of the book. More of a grappler.) Come to think of it, a lot of the characters from The Davinci Code would end up as Experts with Knowledge maxed out for one subject or another. I do have to agree on Gandalf being a Bard. Though, I'd consider him as aging at the rate of an Elan or an Elf (perhaps).
Bogar The Mighty Warrior 05-22-04, 10:47 AM	From Katharine Kerr's series about Deverry. It's a while since I've read any of the books (i'm not even finished and I couldn't dig up any english books up here, I'm afraid some names have been translated - not sure though.), but at least I'll try Cullyn, Jill , Rhodry and Nevyn. Cullyn - Starts off as a fighter (as he's one of some lord's soldiers), when he's exiled, he gains levels in both the ranger and rogue classes, reflecting his newfound ways as a merc. Then he takes the duelist PrC, and some Cullyn-specific feat allowing him to stay armored and benefit from the duelist abilities. Any levels after duelist should be fighter. Jill starts as an adept, having inate magical abilities, although she doesn't know so. Magic is a strange thing in Deverry, though - so the adept levels is only symbolic... Then she advances with rouge levels and fighter levels. Perhaps even levels as barbarian (representing her rage..). Rhodry is half-elven (elven blood in his veins, alert, alert! Hehe, anyone who've read the books gets that one ;)). He starts as aristocrat, evolving into fighter and perhaps cavalier or some other knightly class. Avoid paladins as they are holy warriors. Nevyn is the tricky one. He would no doubt have possessed the Chosen of Mystra template from Forgotten Realms, had he lived there. He, too is actually royal, and so posess aristocrat levels and perhaps a fighter level or two. Then there's magic in Deverry. It makes it difficult to name a class, but a cross between sorcerer and wizard and druid should hit the spot somewhere. Nevyn posess great herbal lore, as well as historic lore. He is also a very potent magical user.
Aluroon 05-23-04, 12:19 PM	Wonderful idea about Dan Browns characters, I have to agree that almost all of them would be experts with many knowlege skills. Other then just class I think Langdon is probubly NG with a good int, good wis and good cha. well thats all the time i have right now, ill be back later....btw...why did all my posts get deleted...oh well... I also changed that post I had on A song of Fire and Ice for non readers help.
Foolosophy 05-24-04, 11:12 AM	Originally posted by Mysteria [B]Uhm ... does anyone have an idea what Samuel Vimes would be? Some sort of Rogue/Barbarian? /B] hmm tough, maybe some holy liberator build?
Mysteria 05-24-04, 01:56 PM	As I don't know what that Prestige Class is, I can't really give an opinion on it, would you mind giving me a line or two of description on it. :)
Sir Neil 05-24-04, 10:18 PM	Originally posted by Aluroon ...btw...why did all my posts get deleted... Maybe they broke the rules? Mysteria: The holy liberator is a sort of CG paladin. I've never heard of Sam Vines, so I give you an opinion on him. Lord of the Rings Frodo: Aristocrat Samwise: Commoner/Paladin Aragorn: Paladin/Ranger Legolas: Fighter Gimli: Fighter Gandalf: Expert
Mysteria 05-25-04, 08:50 AM	CG Paladin? Sounds like it could fit ... if he's got a few Skill points each lvl, more than 2 would be nexessary, I'd say.
Larus 05-25-04, 01:21 PM	Hehe...i now I'm begging for trouble here, but here goes... Remember, I'm trying to make LOTR and Wot- characters into D&D core classes, or mulitclasses. Yes, it's not translated perfectly, but let's not worry about that. Althor Enchantor; I like the idea of Gandalf being a bard, however, I feel he's more in the lines of a druid. He has a strong affinity for nature and animals (and a lot of knowledge about animals), he has his own "druidic" companion (shadowfax) and casts a lot of spells simmilar to those in the druid list. I know he has knowledge of a lot of ancient lore, so I would say he's got the educated feat. As for WoT characters: Perrin: a ranger/fighter. He has a lot of knowledge about nature, a strong affinity for nature, and a lot of wolven companions. Perhaps he's even able to cast summon nature's ally to get in touch with those wolves. Mat: Rouge. Simple and straight. With the metropolitan feat, giving him Ride as a class skill, in wich he as greater skill focus, or maybe even the epic feat, legendary rider. Rand: Sorcerer/fighter/archmage. Ok, before you blow my head off, here's why I believe Rand is a sorcerer: he's mainly self thougt in the art of magic (sure, a little help from Asmodean and later Lews Therin, but that's when he became an "arch mage"), he used magic before he knew he really could use it, he uses a lot of the same spells repeatidly (the flame blade, the skimming-teleport - thing and balefire), and (although it's only a physical trait) he has dragons tatooed on his arms. I'm tempted to call him a Dragon disciple, but of course that would be wrong. Nynaeve: first an Adept, then later a Cleric. I know she also has some neat wizard traits, but she is the "healer", and clerics are the surpreme healers. Egwene: Commoner, then wizard, then "Guild wizard", or "mage of the arcane order". Elayne: first a noble, then a wizard with a lot of item creation feats. Thom Merrlin: bard (no discussion) Lan: Paladin (he even has his own mount)
Brannon 05-29-04, 04:15 PM	Gandalf the Grey from the Middle-Earth D20 site Male Human Cleric 8/Sorcerer 8/Fighter 1/Loremaster 3 CR 20; Size:M Type Humanoid; HD (8d8)+(8d4)+(1d10)+(3d4)+60; hp 141; Init +2 (+2 Dex, +0 Misc); Spd Walk 30'; AC 12 (flatfooted 10, touch 12), BAB: 12/7/2; ATK: +17/+12/+7; DMG: 1d8+5/19-20(x2); SA: Spontaneous casting, Turn Undead 6/day, First Loremaster Secret (Applicable Knowledge - Spell Penetration Feat), Loremaster Bonus Caster Level for Sorcerer (2), Bardic Lore (Loremaster Ability), Loremaster Bonus Caster Level for Cleric, Loremaster Second Secret (Secrets of Inner Strength - Iron Will Feat); Vision: Normal AL: NG; Sv: Fort +14, Ref +7, Will +22; Str 13, Dex 15, Con 16, Int 17, Wis 19, Cha 17 Skills: Alchemy +11, Concentration +26, Diplomacy +12, Knowledge (Arcana of Middle Earth) +28, Knowledge (Geography of Western Middle Earth) +8, Knowledge (History of Western Middle Earth) +15, Knowledge (Shire) +14, Knowledge (Elven and Dunedain Nobility and Royalty) +15, Listen +6, Ride +8, Scry +15, Spellcraft +26, Spot +6 Feats: Alertness, Armor Proficiency (Heavy), Armor Proficiency (Light), Armor Proficiency (Medium), Combat Casting, Empower Spell, Expertise, Iron Will, Maximize Spell, Quicken Spell, Shield Proficiency, Simple Weapon Proficiency, Skill Focus (Knowledge (Arcana)), Spell Penetration Possessions: the sword Glamdring; Narya, the Elven Ring of Fire Gandalf has access to the following clerical Domains: Good (Casts good spells at +1 caster level); Knowledge (All knowledge skills are class skills for Gandalf. He casts divinations at +1 caster level.) Spells: Note: Due to the nature of Gandalf's mission in Middle Earth, he has very limited access to clerical spells. The cleric spells listed for Gandalf the Grey are almost certainly the only ones he has access to; this means that in some cases Gandalf can only receive a bonus domain spell from the Knowledge domain. Of course, it is up to the DM's discretion whether he can choose any others on a given day. The following is simply a suggested list based on abilities Gandalf demonstrated in the books, or is extrapolated from such abilities as he showed. Cleric: (6 /5+1 /5+1 /4+1 /3+1 /1+1 ) 0 level - Detect Magic, Detect Poison, Guidance, Mending, Purify Food and Drink, Read Magic, Virtue 1st level - Bane, Bless, Cause Fear, Command, Comprehend Languages, Deathwatch, Detect Evil, Detect Good, Detect Secret Doors, Detect Undead, Divine Favor, Endure Elements, Magic Stone, Magic Weapon, Obscuring Mist, Remove Fear, Sanctuary, Summon Monster I 2nd level - Aid, Augury, Bull's Strength, Calm Emotions, Detect Thoughts, Endurance, Enthrall, Find Traps, Make Whole, Resist Elements, Summon Monster II, Undetectable Alignment 3rd level - Clairaudience/Clairvoyance, Continual Flame, Dispel Magic, Locate Object, Magic Vestment, Obscure Object, Prayer, Protection from Elements, Remove Curse, Summon Monster III 4th level - Discern Lies, Divination, Freedom of Movement, Greater Magic Weapon, Spell Immunity, Status, Summon Monster IV, Tongues 5th level - Atonement, Break Enchantment, Commune, Flame Strike, Greater Command, Scrying, Spell Resistance, Summon Monster V, True Seeing Sorcerer: (6 /7 /7 /7 /5 /3 ) 0 level - Arcane Mark, Dancing Lights, Daze, Flare, Ghost Sound, Light, Open/Close, Prestidigitation, Resistance 1st level - Identify, Mage Armor, True Strike, Ventriloquism 2nd level - Hypnotic Pattern, Knock, Locate Object, Misdirection 3rd level - Flame Arrow, Major Image, Nondetection 4th level - Detect Scrying, Rainbow Pattern 5th level - Permanency An example of this site. This was made by Jeff Black and I agree with all of his stats on the site in regards to D20 LOTR's conversions. Here is the ling to the site if you want to check it out: http://enworld.cyberstreet.com/hosted/ME/index.html