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Dwarvenrune 07-25-07, 04:21 AM	I have three Paladins in A game I am running. One is a Pal/Sor gish, one is straight Pal, the other is Pal/grey guard. Is there a way to keep them all unique in a storyline perspective. I also hope this is the place for this thread
Fithero 07-25-07, 07:36 AM	Give them all different motives and tactics, the gish is perhaps a paladin of Mystra, seeking to restore balance to the weave. The straight paladin is in service to the church, on lend to some lord. The grey guard is seeking to destory the criminal organisation controlled by the church of Mask. Does that work?
CrimsonDeath 07-26-07, 01:25 AM	Honestly, I think the multiclassing has already given them their own unique flavor. The gish obviously feels that arcane magic is the most efficient tool for getting his job done. There's also a fairly good chance that he's weaker, frailer, or more agile but more charismatic than the other two. It's likely that he could be the most brash, outgoing, or flamboyant of the three. The Gray Guard, meanwhile, has most likely come to the conclusion that much of the strength of evil is in the tools it uses. Thus, he has grimly appropriated some of those tools, doing what's necessary so that nobody else has to. The single-class paladin, meanwhile, likely sees the other two as having compromised themselves to some degree. Whether he takes undue pride in it or not, he may see himself as a shining example of all that's good and right in the world. If he interacts with the other two, he may hope that the others will realize the error in their ways and return to the path he walks (or, if the gish can't, to a path closer to it).
JulesCARV 07-26-07, 03:46 AM	As an alternative idea... What if they're all part of the same order, but from different specialist fields? After all, fantasy settings often postulate the existence of paladin orders dedicated to fighting crime, evil, etc, things that would require a fair bit of diversity. (To avoid the scenario of "Got any ranks in search?" "No. You?" "No." "Darn." (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0290.html)) Since you can't have a paladin order if it consists of many rogues, wizards, etc, multiclassed paladins make up a big part of the order -- paladin/rogues to investigate crime scenes, paladin/sorcerers, etc. This could lead to some interesting plot hooks. For example, if the bureaucracy of their paladin order isn't very organized, perhaps the head of the Arcane Division wants to pull the paladin/sorcerer gish off of whatever mission they're pursuing for something that she thinks is more important, but the person in charge of the mission says that the gish's needed, and the party might get involved in a little turf war. It also gives them a common source of missions to keep the party together.
CrimsonDeath 07-26-07, 03:50 AM	As an alternative idea... I like this one. It could, perhaps, be fleshed out a bit further with a certain degree of good-natured friendly rivalry from one order to the next.
warwinner 07-26-07, 09:47 AM	Give them different "spotlight" hooks Mages approach pal/sor for help Shady characters try to take out/befriend grey guard Paladins order/church like straight paladin best and trust him most
Orchomenos 07-26-07, 01:05 PM	Do any of these guys have a background? Or are you here looking for suggestion for each one? One could be the second son in a noble familly; since he wouldn't inherit anything, his parents enthrusted him in the paladin order, hoping his sacrifice would give great prestige to their house. This one could be ressentful, sarcastic, without a great faith, but with great martial prowess. (Perhaps the Grey Guard?) Another one could be an orphan, raised as a squire by an older paladin. This elder paladin could have been recently killed by a demon, or something like that, leaving the PC with a taste of revenge in addition to his duty of protecting the population from the demon. The third one could be from a poor familly, but with a great vocation. Proud of him, his parents managed to have him join a temple as a servant, eventually having him climb all the stairs until he was finally accepted by the order. THis one would have a large familly, in addition to every friend he made while in service at the temple, but none of these NPCs would be higher than 3rd level.
Dwarvenrune 07-27-07, 03:57 AM	Sorry for the lateness. The Pally/Sor Gish is a Hellbred. The Grey Guard is a Human w/ the Otherwordly feat. The strait Pally is human w/nothing to change type. All affectivly see themselves in the leadership Role. They can all tank( yes even the gish). How can they all share a type of leadership role, there are 3 others in the group that are not Pal if that helps.
warwinner 07-27-07, 04:06 AM	On magical/mage fighting missions or demons/devils, the pal/sor takes leadership When fighting those with underhanded evil tricks or demons/devils, such as rogue and thieves, the grey guard takes leadership When fighting undead or normal evil enemies the standard paladin leads
Dwarvenrune 07-27-07, 04:22 AM	On magical/mage fighting missions or demons/devils, the pal/sor takes leadership When fighting those with underhanded evil tricks or demons/devils, such as rogue and thieves, the grey guard takes leadership When fighting undead or normal evil enemies the standard paladin leads While being put in the most generic way I have ever heard it, it makes alot of sence. Thx