Post/Author/DateTime	Post
Green_eyes 01-30-08, 09:15 AM	After watching the "Pure pwnage" series I came up with the following: CO-boards: taking n00bz to SCHOL since 2.5 edition. What is yours? I know lot's of people keep such quotes in their signatures. Bring them out :cool: P.S. Not sure bout the edition. Can some one older than me (in terms of boards time) feed me into this.
BetaSquirrell 01-31-08, 08:17 PM	If it ain't broke, it will be.
larry_the_titan 02-01-08, 06:44 AM	How about, 'We are from the Opts Boards and we are here to help.'
Fwib 02-01-08, 11:58 AM	I don't know what the motto should be, but I do know that it ought to contain words from 15 different ancient languages, be technically valid grammar, and only make sense once the final word is spoken, at which point the audience's head explodes.
PhaedrusXY 02-01-08, 03:10 PM	I don't know what the motto should be, but I do know that it ought to contain words from 15 different ancient languages, be technically valid grammar, and only make sense once the final word is spoken, at which point the audience's head explodes.:rofl:
Heliomance 02-01-08, 03:14 PM	If it ain't real, fake it If it ain't yours, take it If it don't exist, you make it If it ain't broke, break it
The_Mad_Linguist 02-01-08, 09:22 PM	I don't know what the motto should be, but I do know that it ought to contain words from 15 different ancient languages, be technically valid grammar, and only make sense once the final word is spoken, at which point the audience's head explodes. Well, here's the second half of it. I'm a little rushed for time. Neuga Sator Simsala ama-ar-gi 無 mglw'nafh tirratarratorratarratirratarratum zenzizenzizenzic Pyrzqxgl. The difficulty is in pronouncing the last word.
AncientDragon 02-02-08, 09:59 AM	I'd make you my compliments but my head is exploded.
BetaSquirrell 02-02-08, 07:23 PM	The motto needs to include in it somewhere: quod habimus artes insanos. (I'm not sure on the declension of insanos, I'm guessing its just 1st/2nd declension. Anyway, it means because we have mad skills in Latin. You can say a lot of fun things in Latin.) Now, the TO motto should be one simple (<8 letters) word that somehow incorporates everything that needs to be said into one or two syllables. And that 'everything that needs to be said' needs to include the word itself. It would be like a verbal quine (a self-replicating program), and it would contain everything else.
RadicalTaoist 02-03-08, 01:53 AM	Now, the TO motto should be one simple (<8 letters) word that somehow incorporates everything that needs to be said into one or two syllables. And that 'everything that needs to be said' needs to include the word itself. It would be like a verbal quine (a self-replicating program), and it would contain everything else. More.
CrimsonDeath 02-03-08, 02:55 PM	The motto needs to include in it somewhere: quod habimus artes insanos. (I'm not sure on the declension of insanos, I'm guessing its just 1st/2nd declension. Anyway, it means because we have mad skills in Latin. You can say a lot of fun things in Latin.) Now, the TO motto should be one simple (<8 letters) word that somehow incorporates everything that needs to be said into one or two syllables. And that 'everything that needs to be said' needs to include the word itself. It would be like a verbal quine (a self-replicating program), and it would contain everything else. It's more than one word, but I like the ninety-seventh Rule of Acquisition: "Enough is never enough." The two hundred forty-second rule isn't bad either: "More is good. All is better."
Surreal 02-03-08, 03:46 PM	I don't know what the motto should be, but I do know that it ought to contain words from 15 different ancient languages, be technically valid grammar, and only make sense once the final word is spoken, at which point the audience's head explodes. Now, the TO motto should be one simple (<8 letters) word that somehow incorporates everything that needs to be said into one or two syllables. And that 'everything that needs to be said' needs to include the word itself. It would be like a verbal quine (a self-replicating program), and it would contain everything else. So in other words... Truespeak? Seems fitting. Either that or "Ekke Ekke Ekke Ptang Zoo Boing"
BetaSquirrell 02-03-08, 06:48 PM	Truespeak...in an ironic twist of fate, the magic system that is more effective at low levels.
Fwib 02-03-08, 06:55 PM	Citius, Altius, Fortius, Minimus, Maximus. ?
PhaedrusXY 02-04-08, 01:09 AM	Veni. Vidi. Vici.
AncientDragon 02-04-08, 02:55 PM	Veni. Vidi. Broken thingarum.
RadicalTaoist 02-04-08, 03:13 PM	Dulce et decorum est pro alea mori. (It is sweet and fitting to die for the dice.)
AncientDragon 02-04-08, 03:21 PM	AD maiori (for the greater good)? AD Astra (to the stars)? Luctor et Emergo
Surreal 02-06-08, 03:33 PM	I know what you're thinking. "Did he use up his standard action or only a swift action?" Well, to tell you the truth, in all this excitement I kind of lost track myself. But being as this is an uneratta'd Talenta Sharrash, and I have the Death Blow feat and could slice your head clean off, you've got to ask yourself a question: Do I feel lucky? Well, do ya, punk? Dulce et decorum est pro alea mori. (It is sweet and fitting to die for the dice.) Awesome.
Tempest Stormwind 02-09-08, 01:46 AM	Ah HA! So THAT'S why he pestered me about Latin a few days ago! My vote overall would be for RT's suggestions at both stages (with the caveat that I wasn't entirely certain about what the Latin word for "dice" was when he asked, so we may have botched that translation). I'm convinced that it's in the wrong case for that sentence, though I can't recall what the proper form would be. (He didn't tell me what sentence he was using it for, and my Latin's so rusty that were I near aluminum it would make thermite.) However, I'd like to contribute the obvious choice of CO board anthem (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K2cYWfq--Nw). (Fan vid, from someone who obviously maxed the hell out of Sleight of Hand, but the music's the important part.)
Surreal 02-09-08, 04:14 AM	However, I'd like to contribute the obvious choice of CO board anthem (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K2cYWfq--Nw). (Fan vid, from someone who obviously maxed the hell out of Sleight of Hand, but the music's the important part.) I much prefer this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MnL1xE1WFe0 (same song)
DeaconMortis 02-12-08, 02:36 PM	Could go with either of my family's mottos: 1. Lots is good but more is better 2. Go big or go home.
BillTheManiac 02-12-08, 08:24 PM	The TO Board: If it doesn't require a degree in advanced theoretical mathematics to understand, you're not trying hard enough. Slacker. The TO Board: Like Goedel's incompleteness theorem, but with roleplaying games. The TO Board: Where common sense is a felony.
Rogue0071 02-12-08, 08:35 PM	"Rocks fall, limits die." "Rule -1: Pun Pun says..."
archerpwr 02-13-08, 07:40 PM	The TO Board: If it doesn't require a degree in advanced theoretical mathematics to understand, you're not trying hard enough. Slacker. Wouldn't that be the epic board? Maybe the TG board?
Tshern 02-14-08, 06:13 AM	The TO Board: If it doesn't require a degree in advanced theoretical mathematics to understand, you're not trying hard enough. Slacker. The TO Board: Like Goedel's incompleteness theorem, but with roleplaying games. The TO Board: Where common sense is a felony. On TO-boards that degree just gives you chance to understand what happens. It by no means makes it certain, unless you went to University of Theilaxu_Ghola, TO.
SquashMonster 02-14-08, 10:25 PM	If it ain't broke, it will be.A slight optimization of this: If it ain't broke, fix it.
Surreal 02-14-08, 11:39 PM	I remember reading in an old gaming magazine years ago: An old Dwarven motto: If it doesn't fit, bend it. If it still doesn't fit, break it. If that doesn't work, get a new one."
larry_the_titan 02-15-08, 09:35 AM	Wouldn't that be the epic board? Maybe the TG board? I believe he was refering to Chuck's build. They had to use Calculus just to get the average damage.
BetaSquirrell 02-15-08, 10:28 AM	Or the World-Record-Damage thread. That's always been my favorite for 'strange math ftw!'
RadicalTaoist 02-15-08, 02:34 PM	Actually, Tempest, the 'patria' in the original 'Dulce et decorum est pro patria mori' is the same case as 'alea', right? Word ending is the point of interest for conjugation in all the Romance languages I know. Then again, Latin does have them exceptions.
archerpwr 02-15-08, 07:26 PM	I believe he was refering to Chuck's build. They had to use Calculus just to get the average damage. Gotta love them calculus. [Stands corrected]
Tempest Stormwind 02-16-08, 02:20 AM	Actually, Tempest, the 'patria' in the original 'Dulce et decorum est pro patria mori' is the same case as 'alea', right? Word ending is the point of interest for conjugation in all the Romance languages I know. Then again, Latin does have them exceptions. Latin's practically nothing BUT exceptions -- in addition to their several declensions (none of which have any recognizable pattern except in the word endings, but due to some overlap it's nigh-impossible to recognize which declension a noun belongs to without memorizing them all) and the expected irregulars, there's so many exceptions that at least one declension feels like more of "none of the above" than a proper grouping of word endings. So really, without my books, I wouldn't be able to tell you how to construct that sentence. For the record, Chuck's damage I was able to follow. I could *NOT* follow the math behind the World Record Damage. (Well, I could, up to a point -- and then after a while I could pick it up again and follow to the end, but don't make me repeat the calculation. Were I doing this on an assignment, I'd probably write "Clearly:" in the gap.)
skydragonknight 02-16-08, 07:18 AM	Latin's practically nothing BUT exceptions -- in addition to their several declensions (none of which have any recognizable pattern except in the word endings, but due to some overlap it's nigh-impossible to recognize which declension a noun belongs to without memorizing them all) and the expected irregulars, there's so many exceptions that at least one declension feels like more of "none of the above" than a proper grouping of word endings. So really, without my books, I wouldn't be able to tell you how to construct that sentence. For the record, Chuck's damage I was able to follow. I could *NOT* follow the math behind the World Record Damage. (Well, I could, up to a point -- and then after a while I could pick it up again and follow to the end, but don't make me repeat the calculation. Were I doing this on an assignment, I'd probably write "Clearly:" in the gap.) Chuck's damage scaled linearly so taking average made for a very good approximation. The best metaphor for World Record Damage is a spaceship travelling at near the speed of light will eventually be slowed down to a complete stop by the random ions in space, so that it doesn't keep moving forever. However, the distance it has to travel to accomplish this is absurd, and we're measuring it in microns(the same unit of measure used to measure distance on the atomic scale).
loganic1 02-16-08, 02:57 PM	Sorry, I have to ask for a link. I started getting serious about D&D too late for me to get the joys of having to calculate anything beyond basic probability. Would love to follow anything that requires even basic calculus.
skydragonknight 02-16-08, 10:15 PM	Sorry, I have to ask for a link. I started getting serious about D&D too late for me to get the joys of having to calculate anything beyond basic probability. Would love to follow anything that requires even basic calculus. Basic calculus: Your filling an empty swimming pool full of water. The rate at which the water comes out of the hose is contstant, but since the pool slopes down, the rate at which the water rises isn't; it rises quickly at first but then rises slower as the water fills up a wider area. Say the rate at which the water is pouring out is in cubic feet/sec, and then smack yourself if you say that verbally. The height the water occupies is a function that can be graphed versus time, but as noted before the rate at which the water rises isn't constant; in fact, the height of the water is a function based on the cubic feet of water in the pool. Using volume you can derive a height as a function of cubic feet of water. And since you know the rate at which the volume is increasing(the rate at which the water is pouring out), you can use substitution to figure out the height as a function of time. Using this function, you can find the height of water at any specific point of time, find out how long it would take to fill the pool to a certain height or take the derivative(the most basic calculus operation) to determine the rate of change. A very common use of calculus is dealing with a rate of change that isn't constant, like compound interest for a savings account. The magic number e in the compound interest formula is derived using calculus. Where arithmetic uses numbers and algebra uses variables, calculus uses functions and minipulates them using mathematical rules into a form more applicable to the situation.
archerpwr 02-16-08, 10:20 PM	Basic calculus: Your filling an empty swimming pool full of water. The rate at which the water comes out of the hose is contstant, but since the pool slopes down, the rate at which the water rises isn't; it rises quickly at first but then rises slower as the water fills up a wider area. Say the rate at which the water is pouring out is in cubic feet/sec, and then smack yourself if you say that verbally. The height the water occupies is a function that can be graphed versus time, but as noted before the rate at which the water rises isn't constant; in fact, the height of the water is a function based on the cubic feet of water in the pool. Using volume you can derive a height as a function of cubic feet of water. And since you know the rate at which the volume is increasing(the rate at which the water is pouring out), you can use substitution to figure out the height as a function of time. Using this function, you can find the height of water at any specific point of time, find out how long it would take to fill the pool to a certain height or take the derivative(the most basic calculus operation) to determine the rate of change. A very common use of calculus is dealing with a rate of change that isn't constant, like compound interest for a savings account. The magic number e in the compound interest formula is derived using calculus. Where arithmetic uses numbers and algebra uses variables, calculus uses functions and minipulates them using mathematical rules into a form more applicable to the situation. That's a pretty good explanation of what calculus is.
Surreal 02-17-08, 03:17 AM	Hmm, I actually taught a two-hour lecture on related rates today.
Heliomance 02-17-08, 07:38 AM	I believe he was refering to Chuck's build. They had to use Calculus just to get the average damage. The nasty gentleman required an entirely new numerical system to be invented to adequately express how much damage it did.
Callix 02-18-08, 07:14 AM	The nasty gentleman required an entirely new numerical system to be invented to adequately express how much damage it did. I'm not sure if it was an entirely new invention. The double-arrow notation was a pre-existing concept for finding lower bounds of Graham's Number. The triple-arrow notation used there was just some logical recursion. But please don't ask me how the maths works. I'm only a first year. Have mercy!
Tenebrous_Sage 02-19-08, 07:05 PM	A slight optimization of this: If it ain't broke, fix it.How about: If it ain't broke, fix it till it is.
Swiftblu 03-15-08, 11:34 PM	How about: If it ain't broke, fix it till it is. The US Army already took that one.
afromonkey 03-16-08, 05:04 AM	you guys could try something like 'omnia frangenda' (everything must be broken) but if anyone has any latin ideas I can alway slend a hand translating :) Latin's practically nothing BUT exceptions - It's not as bad as greek, and (although obviously this isn't saying much) they're both much more logical in ways than english is, especially with regard to how they wrote/pronounced things.
darkneolink 03-16-08, 07:20 PM	how about "Because we can"
Green_eyes 03-17-08, 09:04 AM	Nope, taken by LICD web-strip
RadicalTaoist 03-17-08, 11:52 AM	you guys could try something like 'omnia frangenda' (everything must be broken) but if anyone has any latin ideas I can alway slend a hand translating :)I like that. Can you double check my earlier submission (Dulce et decorum est pro alea mori - 'it sweet and fitting to die for the dice') please? I don't know if it works.
Xaktsaroth 03-19-08, 02:38 AM	"Because sometimes even the most well-rounded and fully back-storied character still needs to split a neutron star to save the princess." "Character Optimization: Knowing is half the battle."
Reality_Czech 03-19-08, 12:18 PM	The US Army already took that one. We (The Army) also own "There's never time to do it right, but there's always time to do it again."
larry_the_titan 04-08-08, 10:41 AM	Sinfire Titan just said something that would be very fitting for a motto. WELCOME TO CO, WHERE WE TURN STUPID IDEAS INTO LIVING WEAPONS. Were this in TO, I would have said "We turn stupid ideas into planet-destroying WMDs".
Tshern 04-08-08, 12:10 PM	We (The Army) also own "There's never time to do it right, but there's always time to do it again." In our army there's a similar saying: "How much time do we have for it, sir?" "The faster you do it, the faster."
RadicalTaoist 04-15-08, 02:43 PM	"Because sometimes even the most well-rounded and fully back-storied character still needs to split a neutron star to save the princess." "Character Optimization: Knowing is half the battle."This is lacking something. http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y73/Bauglir/Face%20Sprites/knowinghalfthebattle.jpg
warwinner 04-15-08, 03:44 PM	CO boards are not about creating pun puns ........ They're about creating characters who can kill off pun pun or It's not Caveat emptor ....... It's DM emptor
Zax 04-15-08, 07:12 PM	"If it isn't fixed, break it"
drunkendrake 04-15-08, 08:13 PM	Theoretical Optimization: Where even Pun-Pun is afraid to tread. CO- If it isn't broken, we've removed it from existence instead.
larry_the_titan 04-16-08, 09:27 AM	Theoretical Optimization: Where even Pun-Pun is afraid to tread. CO- If it isn't broken, we've removed it from existence instead. You made 2 mistakes. 1. The Theoretical Optimation Board was made just because Pun Pun and builds of that kind were never meant to be played. 2. Broken goes both ways. It can mean useless and Powerful. Example: The Druid and the Fighter are Broken. One for being weak the other for being to powerful. Both of which when used correctly in game cause no problem.: It is also most commonly used by the uneducated when something new and Different comes along. Example: The nearly daily claims that ToB and XPH for the first few months after their release. Neither of which have a class that is more powerful then a Full caster from Core D&D.:
CrimsonDeath 04-16-08, 10:09 PM	"For the first few months"? Try "to this day".
larry_the_titan 04-17-08, 08:36 AM	"For the first few months"? Try "to this day". Well I only spot one about once a month now. I mean the rate of the claims appearing has declined even though they keep showing up.
Zax 04-17-08, 11:52 PM	that's because most people that want to have already had a whinge :)
Midnight_v 04-20-08, 10:29 AM	It's more than one word, but I like the ninety-seventh Rule of Acquisition: "Enough is never enough." The two hundred forty-second rule isn't bad either: "More is good. All is better." I truly feel this is the win. One for the Co boards and the other for the TO boards... So strong.
gixanthrax 05-14-08, 08:05 AM	I really like the mottom of an ancient European king: "Plus Ultra" even though it's a little worn out thanks to many uncreative advertisments....
Autumn_serene 05-14-08, 10:11 AM	I say we throw out more ideas and make it into a contest to come up with the motto for both Character Optimization and Theoretical Optimization. I could have a poll made with the final 5 choices for each or something.
RadicalTaoist 05-14-08, 04:17 PM	Hmm. I like.
Tshern 05-15-08, 05:17 PM	Is there anything to fight RT's 'dulce et decorum est pro alea mori'?
Eldritch_Lord 05-15-08, 09:01 PM	How about: CharOp: When you absolutely, positively need 304d6+187 damage by 1d4+1 rounds ago. or Nothing says "I smite thee, evildoer!" like Arcane Thesis + Sanctum Spell + Incantatrix + a maximized, empowered, twinned, split-rayed, energy admixed (fire), energy admixed (electricity), energy admixed (acid), energy admixed (cold) meteor swarm...except of course a DC 103 twinned finger of death. or perhaps If you're analyzing your character's damage and you only need to take a Multivariable Calculus and Differential Equations class to understand the equations involved, you're not trying hard enough. and for TO: 9th level arcane casting: 17 levels 9th level divine casting: 17 levels 9th level powers: 17 levels 9th level maneuvers: 17th level 10d6 sneak attack: 20th level Natural Spell: 6th level undead type: 20th level +305 Truespeak: 19th level All of the above in one character using 20 levels or fewer: Priceless. ---------------------- There are some things DMs will allow in their games.... For everything else, there's TO.
archerpwr 05-15-08, 09:51 PM	I like the MasterCard one.
Eldritch_Lord 05-16-08, 08:27 AM	I like the MasterCard one. Me too. :D I came up with that first and felt obligated to do a few for CharOp as well, so they probably aren't as good.