Define "Gish" [Archive] - Wizards Community

Define "Gish" [Archive] - Wizards Community

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cmfl
08-24-07, 11:32 AM First, keep in mind this is just a curiosity and theoretical thread. What one may define as a gish may be considered something completely different by another. I've searched and not found many that give their "definition" of a gish. In your words, what, exactly, is a gish?

Or, more exactly:

Define "gish"
Fwib
08-24-07, 12:38 PM Define "gish"Any character with (nearly full or better) arcane magic and high BAB would fit in fine in 'gish' threads on this board.

The word apparently comes from a word used to describe Githyanki or Githzerai (I forget) multiclass wizard/fighters - or something - back in the olde days before 3rd ed.

Some(many?) people will argue that anything with magic and the ability to panel-beat your face ought to be considered a gish.
Callix
08-24-07, 05:13 PM A "Gish" is a magically augmented fighter. The Psychic Warrior base class is the Gish equivalent of Spam: yes, it's meat, but there's so much more you can do with meat that you can't do with Spam.

A gish is a warrior first and caster second; their magic is used to buff and then their sword to kill stuff. Many people simply mean 4 attacks on a full attack and xth level spells. Also, almost all gishes on these boards are arcane or psionic gishes. Divine gishes are too easy.
Tempest Stormwind
08-24-07, 05:58 PM A gish could, conversely, be a caster first and a warrior second. The important part is the hybridization. They might call down arcane fire one round, buff themselves the next, then lay out some smack with a weapon on the third. The psychic warrior, duskblade, and cleric are gishes by default.
Tleilaxu_Ghola
08-24-07, 09:21 PM See my signature for the "ultimate gish contest" read the two threads associated with it. I think you'll get more information on what "gish" means than you ever cared to know in those threads.
awaken_D_M_golem
08-25-07, 02:44 PM The word apparently comes from a word used to describe Githyanki or Githzerai (I forgot, too) multiclass wizard/fighters - or something - back in the olde days before 3rd ed.

Githzerai Laddies Love Cool L(iches). { note : the two D's are intentional }

Cleric 20 with Divine Power has BAB +20 and 9th level spells.
Wizard 18 / Wyrm Wizard 2 can have Divine Power, so BAB +20 and 9th level spells.
Ardent 4 / +1 BAB 2 / Slayer 10 / Storm Disciple 4 has BAB +19 and 9th level "spells" 20ML.

Divine Power is dispel-able, though so coming up with high BAB without magic is a goal.
Wizards don't get Armor without {you} buying lots of books.
Psionics don't get no respect; the Rodney Dangerfield of D&D.

The TO-board has this thread ---> linky (http://forums.gleemax.com/showthread.php?t=743463)
zorgling25
08-25-07, 05:46 PM Gish is the term for a Githyanki Wizard/Fighter, Zerth is the Githzerai equivalent.
crow04
08-25-07, 06:23 PM Gish is the term for a Githyanki Wizard/Fighter, Zerth is the Githzerai equivalent.

and is classicly is monk/sourcer or psion
The_Mad_Linguist
08-25-07, 10:55 PM gish [gish] - noun - the sound made by a monster when being hit by three spells and stabbed through the heart
Tempest Stormwind
08-25-07, 11:02 PM gish [gish] - noun - the sound made by a monster when being hit by three spells and stabbed through the heart

I was under the impression that was [splort]...
Khatoblepas
08-26-07, 07:42 AM I thought divine/fighters weren't gishes, but had their own name.
WombleHunter
08-26-07, 08:55 AM "Bastards".

EDIT: Sorry, couldn't resist.
Think0028
08-26-07, 03:19 PM I thought divine/fighters weren't gishes, but had their own name.

Yes, they do.

Cleric.

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
cmfl 08-24-07, 11:32 AM	First, keep in mind this is just a curiosity and theoretical thread. What one may define as a gish may be considered something completely different by another. I've searched and not found many that give their "definition" of a gish. In your words, what, exactly, is a gish? Or, more exactly: Define "gish"
Fwib 08-24-07, 12:38 PM	Define "gish"Any character with (nearly full or better) arcane magic and high BAB would fit in fine in 'gish' threads on this board. The word apparently comes from a word used to describe Githyanki or Githzerai (I forget) multiclass wizard/fighters - or something - back in the olde days before 3rd ed. Some(many?) people will argue that anything with magic and the ability to panel-beat your face ought to be considered a gish.
Callix 08-24-07, 05:13 PM	A "Gish" is a magically augmented fighter. The Psychic Warrior base class is the Gish equivalent of Spam: yes, it's meat, but there's so much more you can do with meat that you can't do with Spam. A gish is a warrior first and caster second; their magic is used to buff and then their sword to kill stuff. Many people simply mean 4 attacks on a full attack and xth level spells. Also, almost all gishes on these boards are arcane or psionic gishes. Divine gishes are too easy.
Tempest Stormwind 08-24-07, 05:58 PM	A gish could, conversely, be a caster first and a warrior second. The important part is the hybridization. They might call down arcane fire one round, buff themselves the next, then lay out some smack with a weapon on the third. The psychic warrior, duskblade, and cleric are gishes by default.
Tleilaxu_Ghola 08-24-07, 09:21 PM	See my signature for the "ultimate gish contest" read the two threads associated with it. I think you'll get more information on what "gish" means than you ever cared to know in those threads.
awaken_D_M_golem 08-25-07, 02:44 PM	The word apparently comes from a word used to describe Githyanki or Githzerai (I forgot, too) multiclass wizard/fighters - or something - back in the olde days before 3rd ed. Githzerai Laddies Love Cool L(iches). { note : the two D's are intentional } Cleric 20 with Divine Power has BAB +20 and 9th level spells. Wizard 18 / Wyrm Wizard 2 can have Divine Power, so BAB +20 and 9th level spells. Ardent 4 / +1 BAB 2 / Slayer 10 / Storm Disciple 4 has BAB +19 and 9th level "spells" 20ML. Divine Power is dispel-able, though so coming up with high BAB without magic is a goal. Wizards don't get Armor without {you} buying lots of books. Psionics don't get no respect; the Rodney Dangerfield of D&D. The TO-board has this thread ---> linky (http://forums.gleemax.com/showthread.php?t=743463)
zorgling25 08-25-07, 05:46 PM	Gish is the term for a Githyanki Wizard/Fighter, Zerth is the Githzerai equivalent.
crow04 08-25-07, 06:23 PM	Gish is the term for a Githyanki Wizard/Fighter, Zerth is the Githzerai equivalent. and is classicly is monk/sourcer or psion
The_Mad_Linguist 08-25-07, 10:55 PM	gish [gish] - noun - the sound made by a monster when being hit by three spells and stabbed through the heart
Tempest Stormwind 08-25-07, 11:02 PM	gish [gish] - noun - the sound made by a monster when being hit by three spells and stabbed through the heart I was under the impression that was [splort]...
Khatoblepas 08-26-07, 07:42 AM	I thought divine/fighters weren't gishes, but had their own name.
WombleHunter 08-26-07, 08:55 AM	"Bastards". EDIT: Sorry, couldn't resist.
Think0028 08-26-07, 03:19 PM	I thought divine/fighters weren't gishes, but had their own name. Yes, they do. Cleric.