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Operation_Shoestring
04-29-08, 03:39 PM This really isn't terribly optimized, but it is purely theoretical... I don't think anyone would actually try to play this. I'm not sure this works, but the idea was funny enough that i had to try.

One of my friends was talking about the war weaver and we made jokes about making a war weaver "explode" by having him cast "Shield other" or that Arcane healing spell that gives your HP to other people (anyone remember the name of it?). I had a good laugh... then I thought... wait, maybe this could be useful.

Human Wizard5/Warweaver5/Ur Priest1/Mystic Theurge 9.

Feats:
(Spontaneous Divination)
Dodge
Extend spell
Endurance
Diehard
Craft Contigent Spell
Arcane Disciple: Protection

Other possible feats:
Arcane Disciple: Healing (?)
Practiced Spellcaster (?)
Quicken spell(?)

Strategy:

Contingency: Revivify upon death.

Round 1: Move action: release buffs in tapestry. Standard Action: cast Shield Other through tapestry. Swift/immediate action: Extended Delay Death (on self)

Round 2: Standard Action: Death ward (on self), or Death ward, Mass. Move Action: whatever. Swift/immediate action: Quickened spell (?).

Round 3+: Cast Cure Serious Wounds through tapestry(?)

The idea is that you make yourself unable to die, and thus, having effectively unlimited Negative HP, can continuously soak half of all damage your allies take. You can then also heal/buff them every turn. Admittedly you die at the end of Delay Death's duration, but that's what Revivify is for.

The only pain here is the gold/exp cost.
Senevri
04-29-08, 06:24 PM do not use craft contingent spell. use CONTINGENCY the spell. single-investment-cost focus and you're good to go.
PhaedrusXY
05-05-08, 04:03 PM Very nice. This is funny and not broken enough to be automatically banned by most DMs.
archerpwr
05-05-08, 04:26 PM Drowning rules + create water?
PhaedrusXY
05-05-08, 04:46 PM Drowning rules + create water?Works in theory. Likely to get you a DMG to the face in a real game. Revivify does the same thing, but costs money, which the DM won't mind as much. :P
The_Mad_Linguist
05-09-08, 09:26 AM Works in theory. Likely to get you a DMG to the face in a real game. Revivify does the same thing, but costs money, which the DM won't mind as much. :P

So don't use create water. Use extremely expensive bottled water.
Tshern
05-09-08, 03:02 PM Hilarious! You need another level of Ur-Priest to get into MT though.
archerpwr
05-09-08, 03:34 PM Hilarious! You need another level of Ur-Priest to get into MT though.

Earth Spell+Retraining
Tshern
05-09-08, 03:49 PM Earth Spell+Retraining
Or, I don't know, just take that level of Ur-Priest, grab divine feats and call it a day?
CrimsonDeath
05-12-08, 08:39 PM I don't think Wizard 5/War Weaver 5 has the Fort save for Ur-Priest.
Operation_Shoestring
05-14-08, 03:59 AM I don't think Wizard 5/War Weaver 5 has the Fort save for Ur-Priest.

Yeah, realize the build doesn't work. The point is the idea, not the build, though.
Surreal
05-18-08, 12:40 PM Hmm, you just need some way to funnel all that damage onto another target now.
Operation_Shoestring
05-19-08, 02:55 AM Hmm, you just need some way to funnel all that damage onto another target now.

This (http://www.d20srd.org/srd/psionic/powers/sharePainForced.htm) , maybe?

Change the build to Wizard/psion/cerebromancer/Warweaver, and get someone else to cast those cleric spells on you?
archerpwr
05-21-08, 12:49 AM Wiz 5/ Warweaver 5/ Mindbender 1/ Ur Priest 1/ MT 8 is legal.
Operation_Shoestring
05-21-08, 11:06 PM Wizard3/Psion3/Cerebremancer3/Warweaver5/Cerebremancer+6

You'd have to get someone else to cast Delay Death on you, but now you can FORCED SHARE PAIN.

You don't get 9th level spells though... but you do on the first level of Epic, and can get Epic spellcasting if you go that far.
Endarire
06-06-08, 04:23 AM For the cerebremancer build, take Precocious Apprentice if you can.

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
Operation_Shoestring 04-29-08, 03:39 PM	This really isn't terribly optimized, but it is purely theoretical... I don't think anyone would actually try to play this. I'm not sure this works, but the idea was funny enough that i had to try. One of my friends was talking about the war weaver and we made jokes about making a war weaver "explode" by having him cast "Shield other" or that Arcane healing spell that gives your HP to other people (anyone remember the name of it?). I had a good laugh... then I thought... wait, maybe this could be useful. Human Wizard5/Warweaver5/Ur Priest1/Mystic Theurge 9. Feats: (Spontaneous Divination) Dodge Extend spell Endurance Diehard Craft Contigent Spell Arcane Disciple: Protection Other possible feats: Arcane Disciple: Healing (?) Practiced Spellcaster (?) Quicken spell(?) Strategy: Contingency: Revivify upon death. Round 1: Move action: release buffs in tapestry. Standard Action: cast Shield Other through tapestry. Swift/immediate action: Extended Delay Death (on self) Round 2: Standard Action: Death ward (on self), or Death ward, Mass. Move Action: whatever. Swift/immediate action: Quickened spell (?). Round 3+: Cast Cure Serious Wounds through tapestry(?) The idea is that you make yourself unable to die, and thus, having effectively unlimited Negative HP, can continuously soak half of all damage your allies take. You can then also heal/buff them every turn. Admittedly you die at the end of Delay Death's duration, but that's what Revivify is for. The only pain here is the gold/exp cost.
Senevri 04-29-08, 06:24 PM	do not use craft contingent spell. use CONTINGENCY the spell. single-investment-cost focus and you're good to go.
PhaedrusXY 05-05-08, 04:03 PM	Very nice. This is funny and not broken enough to be automatically banned by most DMs.
archerpwr 05-05-08, 04:26 PM	Drowning rules + create water?
PhaedrusXY 05-05-08, 04:46 PM	Drowning rules + create water?Works in theory. Likely to get you a DMG to the face in a real game. Revivify does the same thing, but costs money, which the DM won't mind as much. :P
The_Mad_Linguist 05-09-08, 09:26 AM	Works in theory. Likely to get you a DMG to the face in a real game. Revivify does the same thing, but costs money, which the DM won't mind as much. :P So don't use create water. Use extremely expensive bottled water.
Tshern 05-09-08, 03:02 PM	Hilarious! You need another level of Ur-Priest to get into MT though.
archerpwr 05-09-08, 03:34 PM	Hilarious! You need another level of Ur-Priest to get into MT though. Earth Spell+Retraining
Tshern 05-09-08, 03:49 PM	Earth Spell+Retraining Or, I don't know, just take that level of Ur-Priest, grab divine feats and call it a day?
CrimsonDeath 05-12-08, 08:39 PM	I don't think Wizard 5/War Weaver 5 has the Fort save for Ur-Priest.
Operation_Shoestring 05-14-08, 03:59 AM	I don't think Wizard 5/War Weaver 5 has the Fort save for Ur-Priest. Yeah, realize the build doesn't work. The point is the idea, not the build, though.
Surreal 05-18-08, 12:40 PM	Hmm, you just need some way to funnel all that damage onto another target now.
Operation_Shoestring 05-19-08, 02:55 AM	Hmm, you just need some way to funnel all that damage onto another target now. This (http://www.d20srd.org/srd/psionic/powers/sharePainForced.htm) , maybe? Change the build to Wizard/psion/cerebromancer/Warweaver, and get someone else to cast those cleric spells on you?
archerpwr 05-21-08, 12:49 AM	Wiz 5/ Warweaver 5/ Mindbender 1/ Ur Priest 1/ MT 8 is legal.
Operation_Shoestring 05-21-08, 11:06 PM	Wizard3/Psion3/Cerebremancer3/Warweaver5/Cerebremancer+6 You'd have to get someone else to cast Delay Death on you, but now you can FORCED SHARE PAIN. You don't get 9th level spells though... but you do on the first level of Epic, and can get Epic spellcasting if you go that far.
Endarire 06-06-08, 04:23 AM	For the cerebremancer build, take Precocious Apprentice if you can.