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Eikcuf
04-04-05, 02:22 AM Is there a way to get a 100 in an ablity score?
other than just saying i have 100 ha ha
Lord Nat
04-04-05, 02:30 AM Is there a way to get a 100 in an ablity score?
other than just saying i have 100 ha ha

The max you can get by level 20 IRC was around 42
Sentient
04-04-05, 02:32 AM Contracting the disease festering anger, and then taking a couple levels of cancer mage (both from BoVD). 100 STR in a couple months.
PhaedrusXY
04-04-05, 02:37 AM The max you can get by level 20 IRC was around 42You can get over 100 Str by level 20 (without Festering Anger...). Go look at the Hulking Hurler thread. Getting super-high mental stats is alot harder. Str is the easiest one to jack up through the roof.
LordKiwi
04-04-05, 05:39 AM The best way to get huge statistics is the spell Power Leech (BoVD) and the Extend Spell feat. You also need to artificialy jack up your caster level (prayer beads, ion stones, red wizard etc.)
Summon a creature with a high [score of choice] and drain it all away. By selecting the correct monsters it may be possable to get as high as 70 in an ability score.
It also helps to throw in Greater Aspect of the Diety and the ring from Frostburn that grants the 1/2 dragon template to the wearer for some extra unnamed bonuses.

If you actually want over 100, it's pretty much impossable without going epic, as far as I'm aware. The exception is strength, which is easy to raise over 100.

Once you have your statistic high, look at the 'X bonus to Y Statistic' thread in my sig. to see what to use it for.

Lord Kiwi,
runestar
04-04-05, 07:14 AM Epic spells and tons of mitigating factors?
War hulk perhaps, and if your dm allows an epic version, all the better.
Caterane
04-04-05, 07:26 AM Another good way to start is taking a monster class, like Ogre, or even better: Ogre (+10 str), Werebear (+16 str) and Half-dragon (+8 str). That's Strength 52 at ECL 17. Add belt+6, inherent+5, rage+4 = 67; that's just from the top of my head and using core only. There might be better ways.
LordKiwi
04-04-05, 09:32 AM Another good way to start is taking a monster class, like Ogre, or even better: Ogre (+10 str), Werebear (+16 str) and Half-dragon (+8 str). That's Strength 52 at ECL 17. Add belt+6, inherent+5, rage+4 = 67; that's just from the top of my head and using core only. There might be better ways.
Indeed there are, look here (http://boards1.wizards.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=287566) for how to get a high strength. Strength is not an issue, it's the other stats.

Lord Kiwi,
sma
04-04-05, 10:11 AM Spelldancer is an old fave too. 3.0 only though, due to Metamagic stacking.
Khazra Reborn
04-04-05, 12:24 PM Didn't the Hive have obscene bonuses to mental stats as part of the hive mind?
SpoonyBard
04-04-05, 12:28 PM A wizard in a game my friends told me about once got himself a theoretically infinite intelligence score. Basically, he created an epic level spell to give him a massive boost in intelligence, used that newfound intelligence to make a similar spell that gave him an even more massive boost in intelligence, and so on... Eventually, he was sitting pretty on close to a thousand int, from what I've heard.
Zemyla
04-04-05, 02:06 PM Only problem is that takes a theoretically amount of money to research the spells.
Shebnar
04-04-05, 02:24 PM Didn't the Hive have obscene bonuses to mental stats as part of the hive mind?

Technically speaking, you don't gain Cha and Int bonuses. It's the Hivemind which gains them ;)
And in an Antimagic Field everything fades away.
lostone
04-04-05, 02:40 PM Technically speaking, you don't gain Cha and Int bonuses. It's the Hivemind which gains them ;)
And in an Antimagic Field everything fades away.I thought the Vermin Lord was part of the Hivemind and thus got the bonuses as well. But anyway, this is kinda off topic for this thread, it's been listed, we don't need to rehash it here. :P
Shebnar
04-04-05, 06:03 PM With the Tauric template trick you can enhance your Strenght well over 100. Then multiclass into Warhulk/Frenzied Berserker/Bear Warrior/blah blah blah to add more fun. :)

Shapechange (or Wildshape, even better...see the Master of Many Forms PrC) into a Shambling Mound (Persistent spell metafeat is suggested), then hold and activate your +1 merciful masterslaying thundering knife and see your Con go in the thousands...
Recommended for Deepwardens...
Anyway I see a problem with stacking...Aren't same type bonuses (including unnamed bonuses) supposed not to stack with themselves? :confused:

The Power Leech trick has already been suggested...

Rokugani Maho-Tsukai can have their Taint score up to how-much-you-want-them-to-be-broken, but you will heavily suffer roleplaying disadvantages (your DM will torture you so much that you'll soon resign to become a NPC).

I thought the Vermin Lord was part of the Hivemind and thus got the bonuses as well. But anyway, this is kinda off topic for this thread, it's been listed, we don't need to rehash it here. :P

*cough* It is clearly written in the BoVD that the Verminlord doesn't gain the bonuses to Cha and Int (pag. 75). ;) You gain the feats and the skill bonuses, though, being part of the hivemind.
lostone
04-05-05, 10:15 AM With the Tauric template trick you can enhance your Strenght well over 100. Then multiclass into Warhulk/Frenzied Berserker/Bear Warrior/blah blah blah to add more fun. :) What tauric template trick?+1 merciful masterslaying thunderingWhere is masterslaying found?
Lionhearted
04-05-05, 01:22 PM easy
giant say +18 to str
add half dragon +8 to str
18 natural in str
5 inherent
5 from lvl

double that since you stole thors belt

108 str and a ****** thunder god in your a$$
samoosa691
04-05-05, 02:05 PM With the Tauric template trick you can enhance your Strenght well over 100. Then multiclass into Warhulk/Frenzied Berserker/Bear Warrior/blah blah blah to add more fun. :)

I got to str 72 wile raging with only an ecl of 1. (no obscene templates or anything like that)

it was pretty much a half ogre with base strength of 18,
here's the jist of it
unmodified
str 54[18 base +6 racial +6 belt, +20 class, 4 level ups], that's not even including the books for +1 up to a total of +5.

rage nets +4 str, frenzie nets +6 str, bear form nets +8 strength. I'm sure I could go higher with a level in berserker, but it's just too much cheeze.
modified stats [while raging and bear form]
str 72<---- close to 100...
Shebnar
04-05-05, 02:23 PM What tauric template trick??

This is very controversial: the Tauric template, by the RAW, adds +1 to the LA of the humanoid, not to the templated magical beast/animal/whatsoever.
So you can boost the magical beast/animal/whatsoever with any template you want for free, as long as it doesn't change the type of the creature into one not allowed by the Tauric template (you can't template a humanoid with an outsider, for instance, or with an aberration). This last bolded sentence is the reason whereby the most of Tauric builds are illegal junk :rolleyes:. Note that you only gain the physical abilities of the creature, not the mental stats.

Where is masterslaying found??

Book of Vile Darkness, pag. 112 :)
lostone
04-05-05, 02:54 PM Thank you. We now return you to your regularly scheduled cheese-flavored rule breaking :D
Shebnar
04-05-05, 04:24 PM Thank you. We now return you to your regularly scheduled cheese-flavored rule breaking :D

:D I'm here to please you...

I'll see if I can pull out something else from the magic hat... ;)

(Just a sidenote: in the actual campaign I'm playing a straight 12 lvl Paladin. Very un-optimized, huh? ;) )
lostone
04-06-05, 07:44 AM So now there are infinite Str and Con (and hit points, with option for inf AC), any infinite comboes for the other attributes? :D
Shebnar
04-06-05, 11:49 AM You forgot the 3.0 Spelldancer (she could have infinite Cha). :D

Artificers can have infinite skill points/Infinite caster level (though using the UMD rules - which have been proved to be misreaded by UMD abuser :noway: )

The Wish build can have infinite free wishes, utterly breaking D&D (this is not properly an ability enhancement but...oh well... :P )

Unavoidable infinite damage (like having infinite strenght, but much better) with the uber-broken cheese-flavored Jovoc (I don't remember it quite well...I had to read my archives again...it was so disgusting I totally removed it :D ).

infinite wealth - Balor Mining/ Chronotyrin Mining etc. etc.

Of course, the most of this broken stuff is meant to exist in a Rules-as-Written vs Rules-as-Intended environment... :D
Verkon
04-09-05, 12:01 PM use just PHB cleric 19 Barb. 1 start with 18 str 5 lvl bumps to 23 6ench. 5 inh. 8 size (rightious might per nurf) rage 4, mircale a polymorph firebolg, and str round from str domain(doesn't stack with ench item but cleric lvl to str once per day). str in the niebhbor of 78 1 round per day. toss in greater viesage of the deity and u can see that str is not a problem.

firbolg 36 str (ok firbolg isn't PBH i know)
5 inherant
19 ench (str round)
8 size (rightious might)
depending on dm as i am not sure what the official ruleing is from carry over from polymoph and your ablity ups from lvl, but if they carry over 5
4 rage
2 moral from rage spell
79 for one round and
64 for a quite a few rounds out of the day

or of u play polymorph like we do where the new ablity scores is basical a like getting a racial bonus to your ablity scores that would be 97 str with just the PHB and with the complete divin and visage you clear 100.

hehehe got to love +40 str mod swinging 2 handed with +60 damage and power atk because with that kind of to hit why not power atk, so non-crit easly 110 or so damage.

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
Eikcuf 04-04-05, 02:22 AM	Is there a way to get a 100 in an ablity score? other than just saying i have 100 ha ha
Lord Nat 04-04-05, 02:30 AM	Is there a way to get a 100 in an ablity score? other than just saying i have 100 ha ha The max you can get by level 20 IRC was around 42
Sentient 04-04-05, 02:32 AM	Contracting the disease festering anger, and then taking a couple levels of cancer mage (both from BoVD). 100 STR in a couple months.
PhaedrusXY 04-04-05, 02:37 AM	The max you can get by level 20 IRC was around 42You can get over 100 Str by level 20 (without Festering Anger...). Go look at the Hulking Hurler thread. Getting super-high mental stats is alot harder. Str is the easiest one to jack up through the roof.
LordKiwi 04-04-05, 05:39 AM	The best way to get huge statistics is the spell Power Leech (BoVD) and the Extend Spell feat. You also need to artificialy jack up your caster level (prayer beads, ion stones, red wizard etc.) Summon a creature with a high [score of choice] and drain it all away. By selecting the correct monsters it may be possable to get as high as 70 in an ability score. It also helps to throw in Greater Aspect of the Diety and the ring from Frostburn that grants the 1/2 dragon template to the wearer for some extra unnamed bonuses. If you actually want over 100, it's pretty much impossable without going epic, as far as I'm aware. The exception is strength, which is easy to raise over 100. Once you have your statistic high, look at the 'X bonus to Y Statistic' thread in my sig. to see what to use it for. Lord Kiwi,
runestar 04-04-05, 07:14 AM	Epic spells and tons of mitigating factors? War hulk perhaps, and if your dm allows an epic version, all the better.
Caterane 04-04-05, 07:26 AM	Another good way to start is taking a monster class, like Ogre, or even better: Ogre (+10 str), Werebear (+16 str) and Half-dragon (+8 str). That's Strength 52 at ECL 17. Add belt+6, inherent+5, rage+4 = 67; that's just from the top of my head and using core only. There might be better ways.
LordKiwi 04-04-05, 09:32 AM	Another good way to start is taking a monster class, like Ogre, or even better: Ogre (+10 str), Werebear (+16 str) and Half-dragon (+8 str). That's Strength 52 at ECL 17. Add belt+6, inherent+5, rage+4 = 67; that's just from the top of my head and using core only. There might be better ways. Indeed there are, look here (http://boards1.wizards.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=287566) for how to get a high strength. Strength is not an issue, it's the other stats. Lord Kiwi,
sma 04-04-05, 10:11 AM	Spelldancer is an old fave too. 3.0 only though, due to Metamagic stacking.
Khazra Reborn 04-04-05, 12:24 PM	Didn't the Hive have obscene bonuses to mental stats as part of the hive mind?
SpoonyBard 04-04-05, 12:28 PM	A wizard in a game my friends told me about once got himself a theoretically infinite intelligence score. Basically, he created an epic level spell to give him a massive boost in intelligence, used that newfound intelligence to make a similar spell that gave him an even more massive boost in intelligence, and so on... Eventually, he was sitting pretty on close to a thousand int, from what I've heard.
Zemyla 04-04-05, 02:06 PM	Only problem is that takes a theoretically amount of money to research the spells.
Shebnar 04-04-05, 02:24 PM	Didn't the Hive have obscene bonuses to mental stats as part of the hive mind? Technically speaking, you don't gain Cha and Int bonuses. It's the Hivemind which gains them ;) And in an Antimagic Field everything fades away.
lostone 04-04-05, 02:40 PM	Technically speaking, you don't gain Cha and Int bonuses. It's the Hivemind which gains them ;) And in an Antimagic Field everything fades away.I thought the Vermin Lord was part of the Hivemind and thus got the bonuses as well. But anyway, this is kinda off topic for this thread, it's been listed, we don't need to rehash it here. :P
Shebnar 04-04-05, 06:03 PM	With the Tauric template trick you can enhance your Strenght well over 100. Then multiclass into Warhulk/Frenzied Berserker/Bear Warrior/blah blah blah to add more fun. :) Shapechange (or Wildshape, even better...see the Master of Many Forms PrC) into a Shambling Mound (Persistent spell metafeat is suggested), then hold and activate your +1 merciful masterslaying thundering knife and see your Con go in the thousands... Recommended for Deepwardens... Anyway I see a problem with stacking...Aren't same type bonuses (including unnamed bonuses) supposed not to stack with themselves? :confused: The Power Leech trick has already been suggested... Rokugani Maho-Tsukai can have their Taint score up to how-much-you-want-them-to-be-broken, but you will heavily suffer roleplaying disadvantages (your DM will torture you so much that you'll soon resign to become a NPC). I thought the Vermin Lord was part of the Hivemind and thus got the bonuses as well. But anyway, this is kinda off topic for this thread, it's been listed, we don't need to rehash it here. :P cough It is clearly written in the BoVD that the Verminlord doesn't gain the bonuses to Cha and Int (pag. 75). ;) You gain the feats and the skill bonuses, though, being part of the hivemind.
lostone 04-05-05, 10:15 AM	With the Tauric template trick you can enhance your Strenght well over 100. Then multiclass into Warhulk/Frenzied Berserker/Bear Warrior/blah blah blah to add more fun. :) What tauric template trick?+1 merciful masterslaying thunderingWhere is masterslaying found?
Lionhearted 04-05-05, 01:22 PM	easy giant say +18 to str add half dragon +8 to str 18 natural in str 5 inherent 5 from lvl double that since you stole thors belt 108 str and a ****** thunder god in your a$$
samoosa691 04-05-05, 02:05 PM	With the Tauric template trick you can enhance your Strenght well over 100. Then multiclass into Warhulk/Frenzied Berserker/Bear Warrior/blah blah blah to add more fun. :) I got to str 72 wile raging with only an ecl of 1. (no obscene templates or anything like that) it was pretty much a half ogre with base strength of 18, here's the jist of it unmodified str 54[18 base +6 racial +6 belt, +20 class, 4 level ups], that's not even including the books for +1 up to a total of +5. rage nets +4 str, frenzie nets +6 str, bear form nets +8 strength. I'm sure I could go higher with a level in berserker, but it's just too much cheeze. modified stats [while raging and bear form] str 72<---- close to 100...
Shebnar 04-05-05, 02:23 PM	What tauric template trick?? This is very controversial: the Tauric template, by the RAW, adds +1 to the LA of the humanoid, not to the templated magical beast/animal/whatsoever. So you can boost the magical beast/animal/whatsoever with any template you want for free, as long as it doesn't change the type of the creature into one not allowed by the Tauric template (you can't template a humanoid with an outsider, for instance, or with an aberration). This last bolded sentence is the reason whereby the most of Tauric builds are illegal junk :rolleyes:. Note that you only gain the physical abilities of the creature, not the mental stats. Where is masterslaying found?? Book of Vile Darkness, pag. 112 :)
lostone 04-05-05, 02:54 PM	Thank you. We now return you to your regularly scheduled cheese-flavored rule breaking :D
Shebnar 04-05-05, 04:24 PM	Thank you. We now return you to your regularly scheduled cheese-flavored rule breaking :D :D I'm here to please you... I'll see if I can pull out something else from the magic hat... ;) (Just a sidenote: in the actual campaign I'm playing a straight 12 lvl Paladin. Very un-optimized, huh? ;) )
lostone 04-06-05, 07:44 AM	So now there are infinite Str and Con (and hit points, with option for inf AC), any infinite comboes for the other attributes? :D
Shebnar 04-06-05, 11:49 AM	You forgot the 3.0 Spelldancer (she could have infinite Cha). :D Artificers can have infinite skill points/Infinite caster level (though using the UMD rules - which have been proved to be misreaded by UMD abuser :noway: ) The Wish build can have infinite free wishes, utterly breaking D&D (this is not properly an ability enhancement but...oh well... :P ) Unavoidable infinite damage (like having infinite strenght, but much better) with the uber-broken cheese-flavored Jovoc (I don't remember it quite well...I had to read my archives again...it was so disgusting I totally removed it :D ). infinite wealth - Balor Mining/ Chronotyrin Mining etc. etc. Of course, the most of this broken stuff is meant to exist in a Rules-as-Written vs Rules-as-Intended environment... :D
Verkon 04-09-05, 12:01 PM	use just PHB cleric 19 Barb. 1 start with 18 str 5 lvl bumps to 23 6ench. 5 inh. 8 size (rightious might per nurf) rage 4, mircale a polymorph firebolg, and str round from str domain(doesn't stack with ench item but cleric lvl to str once per day). str in the niebhbor of 78 1 round per day. toss in greater viesage of the deity and u can see that str is not a problem. firbolg 36 str (ok firbolg isn't PBH i know) 5 inherant 19 ench (str round) 8 size (rightious might) depending on dm as i am not sure what the official ruleing is from carry over from polymoph and your ablity ups from lvl, but if they carry over 5 4 rage 2 moral from rage spell 79 for one round and 64 for a quite a few rounds out of the day or of u play polymorph like we do where the new ablity scores is basical a like getting a racial bonus to your ablity scores that would be 97 str with just the PHB and with the complete divin and visage you clear 100. hehehe got to love +40 str mod swinging 2 handed with +60 damage and power atk because with that kind of to hit why not power atk, so non-crit easly 110 or so damage.