15th level dervish [Archive] - Wizards Community

15th level dervish [Archive] - Wizards Community

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teclis
05-10-05, 05:09 PM so, my DM will be running a little side-show soon, and I want suggestions for a 15th level dervish.

here are the rules:

core books and the complete series. we also have access to complete divine, the draconomicon, and BoED and BoVD. and the races books, stone, wild, and destiny.

point buy is 30, assume non-magical equipment. yes, it's a fairly low magic world.

of course, my initial thought was a simple fighter2, swashbuckler 3, dervish 10.

but then I thought scout might be a good option, as in, fighter2, scout4, dervish 9. now I am thinking of dervish 8 scout5, mostly because I am worried about damage reduction.
Ardras
05-10-05, 05:27 PM Well if you're not aversed to Elves then try to fit CoC (Champion of Corellon Larethian, Races of the Wild) 2 into the Build. This will net you Dex to Dmg.
Together with Swb you now get Str+Int+Dex to Dmg. And because you will be using two Weapons as a Dervish (you were, weren't you ?) your Dex should be high enough to add a decent amount of Dmg.
Here's a build I'm using for a NPC in my Campaign at the moment:

Rg 1/Ftr 2/Swb 3/Der 2/CoC 2/8 more Lvls of Der/Tempest 2

Feats taken (in that order): TWF, Dodge, Mobility, Combat Expertise, Mounted Combat, WF (Longsword), Improved Trip, ITWF, Greater TWF,
Elusive Target, Improved Crit

Of course, some of the feats might not be the best choices, and I'm positive that some of the more experienced poeple here can improve sth.
But I think it's a solid and fun to play build.
xanadu
05-10-05, 08:35 PM I think the swash 3/ fighter 2 is ultimately the best way to go into dervish.

I know it is something of a hearsay, but strength based THF dervishes can hit hard and dont have to worry about damage reduction and things immune to critcs.

Ranger 2 / Fighter 2 / Barbarian 1 / Dervish 10.

Use a Falchion. Use your Dervish dance bonus to fuel power attack. Pick up expeditious dodge instead of dodge.

Str 16
dex 14
con 14
int 14
wis 10
cha 8
MikeN
05-10-05, 10:10 PM Dwarf

Scout5/Fighter2/ExoticWeaponMaster2/Dervish6

1) Scout Dodge
2) Dwarven Fighter substitution (equiv Weap focus with all axes)
3) Scout Uncanny Dodge, Combat Expertise
4) Fighter TWF
5) Scout
6) Scout Mobility, Improved Trip
7) Dervish
8) Exotic Weapon Master -- Trip with your Dw. Waraxe
9) EWM Oversized TWF -- Lower your penalties by 1 with both waraxes (EWM ability states only that it works with the same light exotic weapon, but I think it's a reasonable request to make...if not, then ignore this level and take Scout5 or Dervish2 here instead of later)
10) Scout
11-15) Dervish
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Human

Bard8/Dervish5/SublimeChord2/

Cha synchronicity with Snowflake Wardance, Bardic levels, and you'll be buffing your party with +2 to hit/damage...while dervish dancing. The Sublime Chord is there to access Polymorph...you can be a singing, dancing Firbolg...Power Attack works pretty well here also...
youspoonybard
05-10-05, 10:43 PM Bard 4 / Cleric 1 (War domain, slashing weapon) / Monk 2 (Cobra Strike Variant) / Paladin 2 / Marshal 1 / Dervish 10.

Divine Might, Ascetic Mage, Snowflake Wardance, Divine Grace, Cha to Initiative.
MechaboyDos
05-10-05, 11:26 PM Here's the build that I created with the help of some of the guys on the board here.

Human Scout 5/Fighter 2/Dervish 7/Tempest 5/Thief-Acrobat 1

1st: Scout 1. Dodge, Two-Weapon Fighting
2nd: Fighter 1. Exotic Weapon Proficiency (Bastard Sword).
3rd: Scout 2. Oversized Two-Weapon Fighting.
4th: Fighter 2. Weapon Focus: Bastard Sword.
5th: Scout 3.
6th: Scout 4. Combat Expertise, Mobility.
7th: Dervish 1.
8th: Dervish 2.
9th: Dervish 3. Improved Two-Weapon Fighting, Spring Attack.
10th: Tempest 1.
11th: Scout 5.
12th: Thief Acrobat 1. Quickdraw.
13th: Tempest 2.
14th: Tempest 3.
15th: Tempest 4. Greater Two-Weapon Fighting.
16th: Tempest 5.
17th: Dervish 4.
18th: Dervish 5. Two-Weapon Defense.
19th: Dervish 6.
20th: Dervish 7.

BAB +17
Full Attack: +17/+17/+12/+12/+7/+7/+2 with Greater Two-Weapon Fighting
Fort 11+Con
Ref 12+Dex
Will 7+Wis
Speed 50 ft
Dervish Dance 4/day
+2 AC Bonus
+3 on Initiative checks
The ability to use Cleave while Dervish Dancing
Always take 10 on a Jump, Perform (Dance), or Tumble check
+4 to-hit and damage while Dervish Dancing
An extra +4 to AC when fighting defensively
Evasion
+2d6 Skirmish
+1 AC when Skirmishing
Uncanny Dodge
Trapfinding
Trackless Step
No two-weapon fighting penalties when dual-wielding Bastard Swords thanks to Ambidexterity and Oversized Two-Weapon Fighting
+3 AC when wielding two weapons
Two-Weapon Spring Attack (For when Dervish Dances run out)
No penalties on Balance or Tumble at full movement and no penalties on Climb at half movement
Stand from prone as a free action that doesn't provoke attacks of opportunity
Not flat-footed when balancing or climbing

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
teclis 05-10-05, 05:09 PM	so, my DM will be running a little side-show soon, and I want suggestions for a 15th level dervish. here are the rules: core books and the complete series. we also have access to complete divine, the draconomicon, and BoED and BoVD. and the races books, stone, wild, and destiny. point buy is 30, assume non-magical equipment. yes, it's a fairly low magic world. of course, my initial thought was a simple fighter2, swashbuckler 3, dervish 10. but then I thought scout might be a good option, as in, fighter2, scout4, dervish 9. now I am thinking of dervish 8 scout5, mostly because I am worried about damage reduction.
Ardras 05-10-05, 05:27 PM	Well if you're not aversed to Elves then try to fit CoC (Champion of Corellon Larethian, Races of the Wild) 2 into the Build. This will net you Dex to Dmg. Together with Swb you now get Str+Int+Dex to Dmg. And because you will be using two Weapons as a Dervish (you were, weren't you ?) your Dex should be high enough to add a decent amount of Dmg. Here's a build I'm using for a NPC in my Campaign at the moment: Rg 1/Ftr 2/Swb 3/Der 2/CoC 2/8 more Lvls of Der/Tempest 2 Feats taken (in that order): TWF, Dodge, Mobility, Combat Expertise, Mounted Combat, WF (Longsword), Improved Trip, ITWF, Greater TWF, Elusive Target, Improved Crit Of course, some of the feats might not be the best choices, and I'm positive that some of the more experienced poeple here can improve sth. But I think it's a solid and fun to play build.
xanadu 05-10-05, 08:35 PM	I think the swash 3/ fighter 2 is ultimately the best way to go into dervish. I know it is something of a hearsay, but strength based THF dervishes can hit hard and dont have to worry about damage reduction and things immune to critcs. Ranger 2 / Fighter 2 / Barbarian 1 / Dervish 10. Use a Falchion. Use your Dervish dance bonus to fuel power attack. Pick up expeditious dodge instead of dodge. Str 16 dex 14 con 14 int 14 wis 10 cha 8
MikeN 05-10-05, 10:10 PM	Dwarf Scout5/Fighter2/ExoticWeaponMaster2/Dervish6 1) Scout Dodge 2) Dwarven Fighter substitution (equiv Weap focus with all axes) 3) Scout Uncanny Dodge, Combat Expertise 4) Fighter TWF 5) Scout 6) Scout Mobility, Improved Trip 7) Dervish 8) Exotic Weapon Master -- Trip with your Dw. Waraxe 9) EWM Oversized TWF -- Lower your penalties by 1 with both waraxes (EWM ability states only that it works with the same light exotic weapon, but I think it's a reasonable request to make...if not, then ignore this level and take Scout5 or Dervish2 here instead of later) 10) Scout 11-15) Dervish ________ Human Bard8/Dervish5/SublimeChord2/ Cha synchronicity with Snowflake Wardance, Bardic levels, and you'll be buffing your party with +2 to hit/damage...while dervish dancing. The Sublime Chord is there to access Polymorph...you can be a singing, dancing Firbolg...Power Attack works pretty well here also...
youspoonybard 05-10-05, 10:43 PM	Bard 4 / Cleric 1 (War domain, slashing weapon) / Monk 2 (Cobra Strike Variant) / Paladin 2 / Marshal 1 / Dervish 10. Divine Might, Ascetic Mage, Snowflake Wardance, Divine Grace, Cha to Initiative.
MechaboyDos 05-10-05, 11:26 PM	Here's the build that I created with the help of some of the guys on the board here. Human Scout 5/Fighter 2/Dervish 7/Tempest 5/Thief-Acrobat 1 1st: Scout 1. Dodge, Two-Weapon Fighting 2nd: Fighter 1. Exotic Weapon Proficiency (Bastard Sword). 3rd: Scout 2. Oversized Two-Weapon Fighting. 4th: Fighter 2. Weapon Focus: Bastard Sword. 5th: Scout 3. 6th: Scout 4. Combat Expertise, Mobility. 7th: Dervish 1. 8th: Dervish 2. 9th: Dervish 3. Improved Two-Weapon Fighting, Spring Attack. 10th: Tempest 1. 11th: Scout 5. 12th: Thief Acrobat 1. Quickdraw. 13th: Tempest 2. 14th: Tempest 3. 15th: Tempest 4. Greater Two-Weapon Fighting. 16th: Tempest 5. 17th: Dervish 4. 18th: Dervish 5. Two-Weapon Defense. 19th: Dervish 6. 20th: Dervish 7. BAB +17 Full Attack: +17/+17/+12/+12/+7/+7/+2 with Greater Two-Weapon Fighting Fort 11+Con Ref 12+Dex Will 7+Wis Speed 50 ft Dervish Dance 4/day +2 AC Bonus +3 on Initiative checks The ability to use Cleave while Dervish Dancing Always take 10 on a Jump, Perform (Dance), or Tumble check +4 to-hit and damage while Dervish Dancing An extra +4 to AC when fighting defensively Evasion +2d6 Skirmish +1 AC when Skirmishing Uncanny Dodge Trapfinding Trackless Step No two-weapon fighting penalties when dual-wielding Bastard Swords thanks to Ambidexterity and Oversized Two-Weapon Fighting +3 AC when wielding two weapons Two-Weapon Spring Attack (For when Dervish Dances run out) No penalties on Balance or Tumble at full movement and no penalties on Climb at half movement Stand from prone as a free action that doesn't provoke attacks of opportunity Not flat-footed when balancing or climbing