16th Level Melee Build [Archive] - Wizards Community

16th Level Melee Build [Archive] - Wizards Community

Post/Author/DateTime Post
Jodjod
05-20-05, 03:43 AM Hey all, I'lm looking for some ideas on a tank build...double points if it is good at bullrushing and grappling. It can be any +2 LA race from the "standard" races presented in the core books and faerun campaign setting, possibly with one or two other bits and pieces. Any ideas how to optimize this?

The books allowed are as follows, do NOT post anything that requires other material.
PHB
DMG
Complete Series
Expanded Psi Handbook
Players guide to the Forgotten Realms
Book of Exalted Deeds (For the players, But no Vow of Poverty)
Libris Mortis
Lords of Madness (Chapter 9 Only)
Torack
05-20-05, 03:50 AM I'd say, start out as a monk and head for the Reaping Mauler PrC(At least that's what I think it's called) from Complete Warrior.

From there take the Unarmed Feat Chain.

As for race, I would say Goliath from Races of Stone, but since that is a no-show, go for Half-Giants instead.
Jodjod
05-20-05, 04:02 AM I guess I should add that it is 40 point buy and we all get bonus feats at odd levels.
Khazra Reborn
05-20-05, 07:02 AM Half giant psychic warrior or more interesting:
Human barbarian5/Psychic warrior1/warmind6/bearwarrior5/warshaper3

Sweeping strike & 15ft reach (IIRC), Claw powers, expansion, fun!
deduke
05-20-05, 08:37 AM As mentioned before with those books Half Giants are probably your best choice, go for the reaping mauler prc (from complete warrior) and try to get your strength so high that you qualify for awesome blow (monster manual).
Awesome blow beats standard bull rushing any time.

To bad you cant use races of stone, Goliaths are better then half giants are and there is some nice feats for large creatures or creatures with powerfull build in there related to bull rushing.

regards deDuke
Dark_and_Stormy
05-20-05, 08:50 AM http://boards1.wizards.com/showthread.php?t=432649

'nuff said.
rilem
05-20-05, 09:50 AM I guess I should add that it is 40 point buy and we all get bonus feats at odd levels.

OK, are those bonus feats in addition to the feats at 3,6,9...etc. or instead of them?
cvazi
05-20-05, 10:25 AM human wilder:14 Warshaper: 2
str:18 (22 after lvl stat bonuses)dex:10 con:10 int:9 wis:11 Cha:17
Feats:
1) Aberrant Trait (flexible limbs), Inhuman reach, Deepspawn
3) Abberrant Armor (the one that give Natural AC per Abberant feats), Psionic Body
5) Psi Crystal Affinity
6) Expanded Knowledge (EK): Claws of the beast
7) EK: Bite of the wolf
9) Improved Unarmed Strike, Improved Grapple
11) EK: Metamorphosis (mostly to qualify for warshaper)
12) EK: Steal Strength
13) EK: Psionic Lions Charge
15) EK: Form of Doom, Multi Attack

Powers:
1) Vigor, Expansion (if it is on the psion list, force screen otherwise)
2) Share Pain
3) Dispel Psionics
4) Dimension Door, Psionic
5) Mental Barrier (3rd level Power, but use your 5th level slot to get)
6) Temporal Acceleration
7) Evade Burst

How to Use:
Vigor + Share Pain + Psicrystal = 180 temporary HP for 18 hrs for 17pp
9 attacks per round: claw(x2), Bite, Tentacles (x6 2 from deep spawn, 4 from form of doom)
9att+steal str = pain for opponent
take advantage of the massive pp from wilder.
15' reach! (5 normal + 5 inhuman reach + 5 warshaper)

Warning!: Multi-attack only works if both claws and bite are active! You need 3 different natural attacks to qualify for this feat.

Buy the best amulet of natural attacks you can find!
Jodjod
05-20-05, 12:41 PM Okay, i've decided upon 10 levels of Totem barbarian (bear) and 6 levels of Paladin of Freedom, with dwarf as the race. Any ideas?
cvazi
05-20-05, 01:41 PM what advantages do you seek with this character?

Changes to build above:

Feats:
9) EK: Evade burst from psiwarrior as lvl3 power, EK:empathic transfer (just incase your healer goes down) (you already have +2 grapple from flexible limbs and +2 grapple from deepspawn)

Powers:
1) Vigor; Precience, offensive (+2 damage to all attacks +1/3pp, +6pp to use as a swift action)
7) Mind blank, personal
carnivore
05-20-05, 02:06 PM nice build cvazi
:clap: :clap:

:D
cvazi
05-20-05, 03:13 PM changes: replace ek:empathic transfer w/ deflect shield (your healer can fix himself up! (and if you are in the party with ripclaw, you already have a druid AND a cleric!) buy healing potions.

Equipment:
elven chain +5 (25.15 K)
Animated Large steel shield +5 (49.17 K)
Amulet of mighty fists +3 (96 K)
Belt of Str +4 (16 K)
Boots of Speed (12 K) [free action to activate]
Ring of Sustenance (2.5 K)
Gloves of Dex +4 (16 K)
Handy Haversack (2 K)
Cloak of Resistance (16 K)

Total: 238.82 K
Cash Remaining: 21.18 K

HP: 13d6+2d8+6(1st level)+18 (psi-body)+32 (con) +180 Temporary (vigor)

DR 5/- with form

Normal AC: 33 (43 Max)
Base: 10, Armor: 10, Shield: 7, Natural: 4, Dex:2
Conditional: Form of Doom:+5 natural, Mental Barrier (+4 deflection), Boots of speed +1 dodge

Touch AC: 22 (max 27)
Base: 10, Elusive touch +3, Dex +2, Shield (deflect shield) +7
Conditional: Mental Barrier (+4 Deflection) Boots of haste (+1 Dodge)

BAB: +11

Add 4str when form of doomed
+2 att +2 Dam when euphoria'd

Claw x2: +23 (4d6 (5d6 if enlarged via warshaper) + 13 (+4 with prescient)
Bite: +21 (4d8 (2d6+3d8 if warshaped) + 8 (+4 with prescient)
Tentacles (deepspawn): +21 1d4 (1d6 Warshaped) +8 (+4 with prescient)
Tentacles (form of doom) x4: +21 2d8 (3d6 warshaped) +8 (+4 with prescient)

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
Jodjod 05-20-05, 03:43 AM	Hey all, I'lm looking for some ideas on a tank build...double points if it is good at bullrushing and grappling. It can be any +2 LA race from the "standard" races presented in the core books and faerun campaign setting, possibly with one or two other bits and pieces. Any ideas how to optimize this? The books allowed are as follows, do NOT post anything that requires other material. PHB DMG Complete Series Expanded Psi Handbook Players guide to the Forgotten Realms Book of Exalted Deeds (For the players, But no Vow of Poverty) Libris Mortis Lords of Madness (Chapter 9 Only)
Torack 05-20-05, 03:50 AM	I'd say, start out as a monk and head for the Reaping Mauler PrC(At least that's what I think it's called) from Complete Warrior. From there take the Unarmed Feat Chain. As for race, I would say Goliath from Races of Stone, but since that is a no-show, go for Half-Giants instead.
Jodjod 05-20-05, 04:02 AM	I guess I should add that it is 40 point buy and we all get bonus feats at odd levels.
Khazra Reborn 05-20-05, 07:02 AM	Half giant psychic warrior or more interesting: Human barbarian5/Psychic warrior1/warmind6/bearwarrior5/warshaper3 Sweeping strike & 15ft reach (IIRC), Claw powers, expansion, fun!
deduke 05-20-05, 08:37 AM	As mentioned before with those books Half Giants are probably your best choice, go for the reaping mauler prc (from complete warrior) and try to get your strength so high that you qualify for awesome blow (monster manual). Awesome blow beats standard bull rushing any time. To bad you cant use races of stone, Goliaths are better then half giants are and there is some nice feats for large creatures or creatures with powerfull build in there related to bull rushing. regards deDuke
Dark_and_Stormy 05-20-05, 08:50 AM	http://boards1.wizards.com/showthread.php?t=432649 'nuff said.
rilem 05-20-05, 09:50 AM	I guess I should add that it is 40 point buy and we all get bonus feats at odd levels. OK, are those bonus feats in addition to the feats at 3,6,9...etc. or instead of them?
cvazi 05-20-05, 10:25 AM	human wilder:14 Warshaper: 2 str:18 (22 after lvl stat bonuses)dex:10 con:10 int:9 wis:11 Cha:17 Feats: 1) Aberrant Trait (flexible limbs), Inhuman reach, Deepspawn 3) Abberrant Armor (the one that give Natural AC per Abberant feats), Psionic Body 5) Psi Crystal Affinity 6) Expanded Knowledge (EK): Claws of the beast 7) EK: Bite of the wolf 9) Improved Unarmed Strike, Improved Grapple 11) EK: Metamorphosis (mostly to qualify for warshaper) 12) EK: Steal Strength 13) EK: Psionic Lions Charge 15) EK: Form of Doom, Multi Attack Powers: 1) Vigor, Expansion (if it is on the psion list, force screen otherwise) 2) Share Pain 3) Dispel Psionics 4) Dimension Door, Psionic 5) Mental Barrier (3rd level Power, but use your 5th level slot to get) 6) Temporal Acceleration 7) Evade Burst How to Use: Vigor + Share Pain + Psicrystal = 180 temporary HP for 18 hrs for 17pp 9 attacks per round: claw(x2), Bite, Tentacles (x6 2 from deep spawn, 4 from form of doom) 9att+steal str = pain for opponent take advantage of the massive pp from wilder. 15' reach! (5 normal + 5 inhuman reach + 5 warshaper) Warning!: Multi-attack only works if both claws and bite are active! You need 3 different natural attacks to qualify for this feat. Buy the best amulet of natural attacks you can find!
Jodjod 05-20-05, 12:41 PM	Okay, i've decided upon 10 levels of Totem barbarian (bear) and 6 levels of Paladin of Freedom, with dwarf as the race. Any ideas?
cvazi 05-20-05, 01:41 PM	what advantages do you seek with this character? Changes to build above: Feats: 9) EK: Evade burst from psiwarrior as lvl3 power, EK:empathic transfer (just incase your healer goes down) (you already have +2 grapple from flexible limbs and +2 grapple from deepspawn) Powers: 1) Vigor; Precience, offensive (+2 damage to all attacks +1/3pp, +6pp to use as a swift action) 7) Mind blank, personal
carnivore 05-20-05, 02:06 PM	nice build cvazi :clap: :clap: :D
cvazi 05-20-05, 03:13 PM	changes: replace ek:empathic transfer w/ deflect shield (your healer can fix himself up! (and if you are in the party with ripclaw, you already have a druid AND a cleric!) buy healing potions. Equipment: elven chain +5 (25.15 K) Animated Large steel shield +5 (49.17 K) Amulet of mighty fists +3 (96 K) Belt of Str +4 (16 K) Boots of Speed (12 K) [free action to activate] Ring of Sustenance (2.5 K) Gloves of Dex +4 (16 K) Handy Haversack (2 K) Cloak of Resistance (16 K) Total: 238.82 K Cash Remaining: 21.18 K HP: 13d6+2d8+6(1st level)+18 (psi-body)+32 (con) +180 Temporary (vigor) DR 5/- with form Normal AC: 33 (43 Max) Base: 10, Armor: 10, Shield: 7, Natural: 4, Dex:2 Conditional: Form of Doom:+5 natural, Mental Barrier (+4 deflection), Boots of speed +1 dodge Touch AC: 22 (max 27) Base: 10, Elusive touch +3, Dex +2, Shield (deflect shield) +7 Conditional: Mental Barrier (+4 Deflection) Boots of haste (+1 Dodge) BAB: +11 Add 4str when form of doomed +2 att +2 Dam when euphoria'd Claw x2: +23 (4d6 (5d6 if enlarged via warshaper) + 13 (+4 with prescient) Bite: +21 (4d8 (2d6+3d8 if warshaped) + 8 (+4 with prescient) Tentacles (deepspawn): +21 1d4 (1d6 Warshaped) +8 (+4 with prescient) Tentacles (form of doom) x4: +21 2d8 (3d6 warshaped) +8 (+4 with prescient)