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| Arafelis12-11-03, 05:32 AM | So far, I've found Zenythri (MM2), Chanod (MM2), Aasimar, Tiefling, feytouched (FF) and wisplings (FF) to be more or less worth the +1 ECL cost. The Draconic template is slightly overpowered for +1 ECL, and I love WotC for it; they didn't automatically round up like they usually do. It's also not so badly overpowered that it's always worth the lost class level, which I think should be the standard. The Mechanatrix (FF) is shockingly (haha i made a funny) overpowered for +1 ECL. I'm not quite sure how that snuck through. The +2 Half-Celestial and Half-Fey seem to be worth their costs, and I'm personally a fan of the Shadow template (which my guess is +2, although there's none listed). Others? |
| Neonsamurai12-11-03, 05:46 AM | I also like air genasi, their breathless special quality is pretty kick butt imo. Then there is half-ogre which is terribly terribly overpowered, if you play a meat grinder type of character, there's no reason to not be a half-ogre. Feral template is also pretty uber. |
| True Balance12-11-03, 06:00 AM | yeah, for a fighter type you cant do any better than half-ogre from SS. its one of the best +1EL you can get. |
| RabidWeasel12-11-03, 06:02 AM | From Dragonlance Campaign Setting, white dragonspawn gives +2 to 2 stats, some minor bonuses, and +1 sorcerer casting level for +1 ECL. |
| Funny Slaughter12-11-03, 07:10 AM | The +2 Half-Celestial half-celestial is fair with +3 or even +4 (w. wings) any DM allowing it for +2 is just asking for it... gs Funny |
| Arafelis12-11-03, 09:39 AM | I believe the +3 is w/ spell-like abilities, and the +4 is w/spell-like and wings. +2 is what's listed in the BoED, and probably reflects the SRD version of the template (which does not list spell-like abilities, IIRC). |
| Jindl12-11-03, 01:04 PM | The duergar is a decent +1 LA. Immunity to poison, phantasms, and paralysis. Normal dwarven goodies. Spell-like enlarge person and invisibility. It's in the MM. -Jindl |
| catharz12-11-03, 10:28 PM | HALF-CELESTIAL No matter the form, half-celestials are always comely and delightful to the senses, having golden skin, sparkling eyes, angelic wings, or some other sign of their higher nature. CREATING A HALF-CELESTIAL Spell-Like Abilities: A half-celestial with an Intelligence or Wisdom score of 8 or higher has two or more spell-like abilities, depending on its Hit Dice, as indicated on the table below. The abilities are cumulative Unless otherwise noted, an ability is usable once per day. Caster level equals the creature’s HD, and the save DC is Charisma-based. HD Abilities 1–2 Protection from evil 3/day, bless 3–4 Aid, detect evil 5–6 Cure serious wounds, neutralize poison 7–8 Holy smite, remove disease 9–10 Dispel evil 11–12 Holy word 13–14 Holy aura 3/day, hallow 15–16 Mass charm monster 17–18 Summon monster IX (celestials only) 19–20 Resurrection Anyway, I think the BoED version is designed to be based off racial HD only. Its still overpowered, but with Smite evil +1, SR of 11, DR 5/magic, and only Protection from evil and Bless (at caster level 1 :rolleyes: ) for spell like abilities, it is *closer* to +2. In all seriousness, though, it would be worth +2 with only the Outsider type an ability mods. Thank goodness for overpowered templates! :D |
| Otto the Bugbear12-11-03, 10:40 PM | Uh, you're all forgetting the uberest race ever... Do I really need to say it again? (Granted, it's +1 LA with 3 racial hit dice, but of course I had to say something.) Cheers Otto :) |
| catharz12-11-03, 10:46 PM | Originally posted by Otto the Bugbear Uh, you're all forgetting the uberest race ever... Do I really need to say it again? (Granted, it's +1 LA with 3 racial hit dice, but of course I had to say something.) Cheers Otto :) I'm not sure wether to give you a :turkey: or a :cookie: ... |
| Steelbreze12-11-03, 11:03 PM | I know this is a +1/+2 thread, but what are peoples thought's about the +3 Fey'ri? Is it worth it or should it be shunned? :) |
| Endarire12-11-03, 11:26 PM | You really must say it again. -EE |
| catharz12-11-03, 11:29 PM | Originally posted by Steelbreze I know this is a +1/+2 thread, but what are peoples thought's about the +3 Fey'ri? Is it worth it or should it be shunned? :) Three levels of the Half-fiend template are generally better. |
| Otto the Bugbear12-11-03, 11:33 PM | Originally posted by Endarire You really must say it again. -EE BUGBEAR!!! YEAH, BABY! Cheers Otto :) |
| T-Dawg12-11-03, 11:46 PM | What page is the white dragonspawn on.. i just got the book and cant find it.. could be because i am looking through it at 11:20 and am really tired. but thanks for the help.. to whoever can point me in the right direction. |
| catharz12-11-03, 11:53 PM | 222 |
| A Man In Black12-12-03, 12:40 AM | Half-fey after the 3.5 conversion book is nutty. Wings and DR 5/cold iron, plus immunity to mind-affecting spells and unbalanced stat mods, plus charm person at will. Fun. Of course, magic-blooded is just ridiculous. Why doesn't every wizard or sorcerer take this template if they can? Ditto for arctic and rangers/druids/barbarians. Who doesn't like a free con boost and a bonus to survival? |
| PhaedrusXY12-12-03, 02:12 AM | The Shadow Walker template from Unapproachable East is well worth the +1 ECL in my opinion. |
| Raene Jagad12-12-03, 08:21 AM | White Dragonspwan is entirely delightful (as someone mentioned above). NAC 7, Bite, 2 claws, flight at double base, crap breath weapon, +2 Dex and Con, lowlight, darkvision 30ft and a level of sorceror spellcasting it is stupidly overpowered. :D The only downside is that you have to have the alignment of the parent dragon which can be a real pain in a Dragonlance campaign (CE for white). On the other hand if you read the text description "Created through a hideous method that transforms humanoids into draconianlike creatures by fusing the mind and soul of the victim with the shard of a draconian's .... etc" If you ever feel like an enforced alignment change to CE then this one works! Just pray your DM decides that you are one of the few transformed beings that have retained their free will because otherwise you are a puppet of the Dragon Overlord who transformed you! |
| Andreas081512-12-03, 10:03 AM | Where is magic-blooded from? |
| Vorpal Warhammer12-12-03, 11:20 AM | I don't remember the name of the race, but either in the MM2 or the Fiend Folio there's a Planetouched race descended from Lawful Neutral creatures that has the special ability of using lightning "damage" to restore HP. If you want to play an outsider sorceror, that would be the race to use. |
| Markus.l12-12-03, 01:29 PM | Like PhaedrusXY said, the Shadow Walker template (U.E.) is cool for +1LA. There is also the Ghost Elf from Dragon 313 (among a BOOTY load of other new races in the mag). If you're Playing a straight rouge type, the ghost elf is even better. You can turn "blink" on (among its other powers) and sneak attack with EVERY attack that hits! OUCH! |
| Markus.l12-12-03, 03:41 PM | Originally posted by A Man In Black ...Of course, magic-blooded is just ridiculous.... What book is Magic-Blooded from? |
| Wizu12-12-03, 04:09 PM | Guys guys guys... Antropomorphic feral giant squid!!! And now we are talking. |
| A Man In Black12-12-03, 04:43 PM | Originally posted by Andreas0815 Where is magic-blooded from? Dragon #306. |
| RabidWeasel12-12-03, 07:29 PM | Originally posted by Wizu Guys guys guys... Antropomorphic feral giant squid!!! And now we are talking. ECL +1/+2? :angel: |
| catharz12-12-03, 07:41 PM | Well, it just LA+2... |
| Wizu12-12-03, 07:52 PM | Antropomorphic feral giant squid = LA +2 |
| A Man In Black12-12-03, 09:27 PM | Originally posted by catharz something else entirely I hate to sidetrack, catharz, but that sig is really, really mean. |
| catharz12-12-03, 09:40 PM | Um, thats a real quote: http://boards1.wizards.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=145359 I just thought it odd an odd thing for a Min/Maxer to suggest. |
| A Man In Black12-12-03, 10:00 PM | Originally posted by catharz Um, thats a real quote: http://boards1.wizards.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=145359 I just thought it odd an odd thing for a Min/Maxer to suggest. It's still amusing. |
| FishBoots12-13-03, 01:20 AM | One of my favorites is the +2LA of Crypt Spawn. You are undead, you get natural armor that increases with your HD, bonuses to intimidate, and again, you are UNDEAD (look at the undead immunity list). It can hurt as much as it can help too though. I don't gain the benefits from our group bard, and I can't be healed conventionally. But I don't eat, sleep, or have to even roll on most saves that the rest of the group does. :D I also have one hell of an intimidate (which is one of my favorite skills). Other than that, I think shadow is cool, but I think it is+4LA. The deep orc is really cool too. I can't remember their LA (I think only +1) or their name other than deep orc. It is in the ROF though. I think they get a lot of stat bonuses. |
| Arafelis12-13-03, 01:25 AM | Actually, Hengeyokai is- wait, stop laughing- worth it now. One word: Warshaper. |
| Markus.l12-13-03, 01:29 AM | Originally posted by A Man In Black Where is magic-blooded at? Dragon #306. Would someone be kind enough to write this feat here as I don't have a subscription to Dragon and seeing as it's already at 314 I can't go to my local book store to research it. I'd GREATLY appreciate it. Thanx! :angel: |
| Arafelis12-13-03, 01:36 AM | Sure! Here, I didn't like being allowed to post on WotC's boards anyway. ***** |
| Vorpal Warhammer12-13-03, 08:45 AM | Originally posted by Vorpal Warhammer I don't remember the name of the race, but either in the MM2 or the Fiend Folio there's a Planetouched race descended from Lawful Neutral creatures that has the special ability of using lightning "damage" to restore HP. If you want to play an outsider sorceror, that would be the race to use. Found it. Mechanatrix in the Fiend Folio allows Shocking Grasp once per day and heals 1 point of damage for every 3 points of lightning damage you otherwise would take. Also has cold and fire resistance and is an outsider. ECL 1 |
| Alpha_Lord12-13-03, 10:08 AM | Interesting thread. Btw, does anyone know where I could find the Star Elf sub-race? Lol, now Elves-to-be have a choice of any prime stat, among other things. ;) |
| catharz12-13-03, 05:51 PM | The Sanctified creature template is quite nice for creatures lacking in special abilities. For, say, a formerly evil Half-minotaur or human, the Magic circle against evil, Aura of menace, and Light ray are well worth +2 LA. Of course, you wouulden't want to add it to anything that wouuld actually stand to loose any abilities of importance. Then again, them template seems rather poortly written. It says that it cannot be added to Outsiders with the evil subtype, and then goes on to descible how adding the template affects Outsiders with the evil subtype. In addition, the Young red dragon is listed as retaining it's breath weapon, which the template clearly states it looses. It also seems to have lost its spellcasting. :confused: |
| rich293901-01-04, 02:33 PM | Originally posted by Arafelis The Mechanatrix (FF) is shockingly (haha i made a funny) overpowered for +1 ECL. I'm not quite sure how that snuck through. I can't seem to find this one... FF stands for Fiend Folio right? I must be blind or something. |
| Maruuk01-01-04, 04:31 PM | Fiend Folio Pg. 137 |
| Kierok01-01-04, 04:46 PM | strange that nobody mentioned Shadar-kai (FF), 1 LA +1 (with 3 HD) that gets hide in plain sight and an extra sneak attack dice, among few goodies, can't find anything better for a rogue... |
| Snow Savant01-01-04, 04:58 PM | A pretty damn nifty race is the Bladeling from MM2. It's a +1 ECL Outsider with a favored class of Fighter. For +1 ECL, you get: 1. Medium Size and Speed 30'. 2. Two 1d6 Claw Attacks (virtual Imp. Unarmed Combat feat). 3. DR = 5/Magic (Slashing & Piercing Weapons only). 4. Fire & Cold Resistance 5. 5. Immunity to acid & rust attacks. 6. Darkvision 60'. 7. DEX +2 ... and no stat penalties! 8. Razor Storm (Ex): 1/Day you spray in a 15' cone a 2d6 piercing shrapnel attack. 9. +4 Natural Armor .... +2 for 24 hours if you use your Razor Storm. 10. You look wicked cool. :devil: A damn good bargain if you ask me. ** My party Cleric has one as a cohort. Whenever my Trickster casts Acid Fog on some poor hapless slobs, we send in Mr. Spiny with a reach weapon and Freedom of Movement & Blindsightcast on him and he mops up the slowed & acid-sizzled victims. Fun! XO, Snow :) |
| catharz01-01-04, 05:16 PM | Soo good that the LA has been increased to +2 in 3.5. |
| StarKiller101-02-04, 12:53 AM | Half-minotaur (+1 ECL) seems pretty good too. |
| Markus.l01-02-04, 01:23 AM | Are you talking about the Dragon 313 1/2 Mino? IF so that thing is SO overpowered the DM is just askin' for disgusting damage on his NPC's. I should know, he let me try a feral version. If not which 1/2 Min.o are you referring to? |
| Arafelis01-02-04, 05:25 AM | Originally posted by Kierok strange that nobody mentioned Shadar-kai (FF), 1 LA +1 (with 3 HD) that gets hide in plain sight and an extra sneak attack dice, among few goodies, can't find anything better for a rogue... It's the Fey HD that turned me off them. Like so many other racial dice, I can't really accept Fey HD as worth class levels. Hide in Plain Sight might, arguably, make up for it, but it's still generally easier to work in a level of Shadowdancer. |
| Prism01-02-04, 06:30 AM | Originally posted by Kierok strange that nobody mentioned Shadar-kai (FF), 1 LA +1 (with 3 HD) that gets hide in plain sight and an extra sneak attack dice, among few goodies, can't find anything better for a rogue... 1d6 sneak damage for a 4th level character isn't great and the shadow curse is a total pain |
| Wubbie07501-02-04, 08:03 AM | Originally posted by Arafelis The Draconic template is slightly overpowered for +1 ECL, and I love WotC for it is this in Draconomicon? If not.. where can I find it? |
| MikeN01-02-04, 08:15 PM | White Dragonspawn template from Dragonlance Campaign setting. +2 Dex, +2 Con, +7 Natural Armor, "Cold"-type creature, Breath weapon every 2d4 rounds, casts as a level 1 sorcerer (cumulative with real sorc levels), all for -- wait for it -- +1 LA!! |
| Inkubus01-02-04, 09:09 PM | deleted |
| Quijin01-02-04, 09:10 PM | Originally posted by Alpha_Lord Interesting thread. Btw, does anyone know where I could find the Star Elf sub-race? Lol, now Elves-to-be have a choice of any prime stat, among other things. ;) Star elves can be found in Unapproachable East. Also, How About Half Undead? THe HAlf zombie LA +1, Fortification, immune to death from massive damage and bonus to strenght. Also The Volodni from UE, +2 con, +2 wis, Plant subtype, half damage from peircing |
| Korimyr the Rat01-02-04, 11:04 PM | Githzerai. That +6 DEX, +2 WIS, and free Inertial Armor make for a killer Monk. |
| Kenkai01-02-04, 11:55 PM | Originally posted by MikeN White Dragonspawn template from Dragonlance Campaign setting. +2 Dex, +2 Con, +7 Natural Armor, "Cold"-type creature, Breath weapon every 2d4 rounds, casts as a level 1 sorcerer (cumulative with real sorc levels), all for -- wait for it -- +1 LA!! sure there aren't any racial HD? and you don't need to be evil? (its my understanding that white dragons are chaotic evil in that setting?) |
| Markus.l01-03-04, 05:15 AM | I know it's not a +1/+2 but has anyone ever played a Maug from F.F.? Granted they're a +5 LA but if you play a wizard you can polymorph yourself into a Mithral or adamantine golem without the magic immunities. I’d imagine you’d have the hardness of the relative materials as your “natural” DC? But hey you're still a COOL looking crusher!:D EDIT: DAMN! Just saw that there's that 15HD maximum you can go. So the best you could hope for would be a Stone G @ 14 HD :( Oh well, it was cool for those several minutes ;) |
| MikeN01-04-04, 07:40 PM | No HD. Just base creature +1 LA for White (and higher LA's and better stat adjustments for the other evil chromatic types). On the down side, you're a slave to a dragonlord...but I'm sure you could be one who escaped...kinda like Drizzt was for drow in 2nd ed...:rolleyes: All from that incredibly well-balanced Dragonlance sourcebook... |
| Kenkai01-04-04, 07:47 PM | wow and no alignment requirement...freaky. thats insane. i'll have to show my DM :D (although we don't play dragonlance...) |
| necrosnoop11001-04-04, 07:51 PM | So ... Otto, What's so great about Bugbears anyways |
| Boondoggle01-04-04, 08:19 PM | What's not to love? Good stat boosts, natural armor, darkvision, scent, oh, and the fact that your a bugbear. Sure, the ratial HD are less than stellar, but for 4 ECL you get good benefits. Oh, and you get to eat people if you want :angel: |
| Quijin01-04-04, 08:29 PM | bugbear stink, but ever since i have seen Return of the King, i am strangely obsessed with orcs. meh |
| Markus.l01-05-04, 03:07 AM | Originally posted by Quijin bugbear stink, but ever since i have seen Return of the King, i am strangely obsessed with orcs. meh LOL! Ever since Savage Species came out I've been obsessed with the 1/2 Ogre. Seeing the last battle of Return of the King where Aragorn is battling that HUGE Fully armored Ogre cemented the visual of them and how bad A$$ they really are! |
| necrosnoop11001-05-04, 10:13 AM | If you like Orcs check out the Orog it’s an uber-underdark cousin to the surface Orcs and can be found in the FRCS. Orogs all possess the following racial traits: • +6 Strength, -2 Dexterity, -2 Wisdom, +2 Charisma • Base move 30 feet. • Darkvision up to 120 feet. • Proficient with greatsword and throwing axe • +2 natural armor. • Favored Class: Fighter. • Level Adjustment: +2. |
| CS_Buddy01-05-04, 01:39 PM | I think the Saint template is definitely worth it if you can pick it up. It's only a +2 LA and you get a ton of special abilities with it. |
| Quijin01-05-04, 04:46 PM | that was a troll if my memory is correct, tolken's monsters are cool all around |
| Markus.l01-05-04, 06:10 PM | Originally posted by Quijin that was a troll if my memory is correct, tolken's monsters are cool all around You're right, Boromir_Called them Cave trolls. The Ogre's were petrified in stone. Still those trolls looked uber dope bashing all the little 'umies aside ;) |
| ruleslawyer01-05-04, 07:47 PM | [Tolkien nerd]Well, Olog-hai (the creatures depicted at the end of RotK) are probably closer to D&D ogres (really big, tough ogres) than to D&D trolls. They're not spiny and rubbery, they don't regenerate, and they seem to get much more mileage out of big weapons than out of claws and teeth. Incidentally, Bilbo's trolls were probably Stone-trolls; a slightly less powerful ilk of creature than the Cave-trolls of Moria. Olog-hai were still more powerful than either breed, "Trolls of great cunning and agility who could endure the Sun as long as Sauron's will was with them... great beasts with the reasoning intelligence of Men."[/Tolkien nerd] Back OT: Saint isn't a template you can actually choose, though, which is why it's got an artificially low LA. Sorta makes it not so good from a min-max perspective. If you go with the BoED, though, you can get half-celestial for LA +2, which, IMHO, is definitely worth it. The template is strong at +3, and a must-have for paladin, hospitaler, and HL builds. |
| Quijin01-05-04, 08:05 PM | Originally posted by Markus.l You're right, Boromir_Called them Cave trolls. The Ogre's were petrified in stone. Still those trolls looked uber dope bashing all the little 'umies aside ;) unfortunetly their are no ogres in tolkien's world, i would have been interesting how Peter Jackson depicted them in his movies. Hopefully when ever the hobbit gets done we get to see smogg and the five army war (i think that is the name of the battle at the end of hobbit). Sorry about LotR posts, How about a druegar? LA +1, nice immunities, spell like abilities, and decent ability score adjustments |
| catharz01-30-04, 05:10 PM | Does anyone know of a +2 or lower LA template (or levels of a template class) that will grant undeath or or half-undeath to an Outsider? That dosen't makes them incorporeal! |
| Markus.l01-30-04, 05:37 PM | Yea, there are a whole bunch in Dragon 313. BUt I beleive they are races and not templates. Check it out anyway... |
| catharz01-30-04, 06:00 PM | Thanks for the tip. I checked it out, and they are almost exactly what I was looking for. Unfortunately, they apply only to Humanoids, Monsterous humanoids, and Giants :( |
| Vysirez01-30-04, 11:21 PM | Another interesting Orc subrace is Gray orc form RoF. +2 str +2 wis -2 int -2cha, darkvision, scent, 40' move. proficient with great axe and longbow. LA +1. However they have lightblindness so they might not be worth it. Might make an ok cleric type though. |
| foxylady01-31-04, 06:45 AM | What templates/+LA races have the best defensive abilities? I don't care about huge stats or mondo spell-like abilities. I want immunities, resistances, and DR (in about that order). |
| foxylady01-31-04, 07:02 AM | Originally posted by Markus.l I know it's not a +1/+2 but has anyone ever played a Maug from F.F.? Granted they're a +5 LA but if you play a wizard you can polymorph yourself into a Mithral or adamantine golem without the magic immunities. I’d imagine you’d have the hardness of the relative materials as your “natural” DC? But hey you're still a COOL looking crusher!:D EDIT: DAMN! Just saw that there's that 15HD maximum you can go. So the best you could hope for would be a Stone G @ 14 HD :( Oh well, it was cool for those several minutes ;) Maugs are +3 LA (5 ECL), btw. I love Maugs, but I have difficulty making goods builds for them. Their abominable 2 construct HD really get in the way since they can't be replaced by class HD. They're immune to practically everything, which is good because they have lousy hit points and pathetic saves. Paradoxically, despite their huge STR and 15 max caster level I think they make better wizards than fighters. Having a mandatory +0 CON bonus makes them meat at the front lines. The immunities are great for wizards, as is their high DEX and INT (or CHA). Concentrating on no-SR/no-save spells mitigates your lower caster level, most of which are below 8th level anyway. Low CON and low Fortitude saves makes you terribly vulnerable to Disintegrate, though. |
| foxylady01-31-04, 07:06 AM | Originally posted by Quijin Star elves can be found in Unapproachable East. Also, How About Half Undead? THe HAlf zombie LA +1, Fortification, immune to death from massive damage and bonus to strenght. Also The Volodni from UE, +2 con, +2 wis, Plant subtype, half damage from peircing Hmmm. A volodni archer with spearblock armor. Most weapon attacks against you will be piercing.... Plant immunities are quite yummy, too. |
| P33KAJ3W01-31-04, 12:01 PM | Originally posted by necrosnoop110 If you like Orcs check out the Orog it’s an uber-underdark cousin to the surface Orcs and can be found in the FRCS. Orogs all possess the following racial traits: • +6 Strength, -2 Dexterity, -2 Wisdom, +2 Charisma • Base move 30 feet. • Darkvision up to 120 feet. • Proficient with greatsword and throwing axe • +2 natural armor. • Favored Class: Fighter. • Level Adjustment: +2. And they look cool |
| foxylady02-01-04, 04:58 PM | Originally posted by P33KAJ3W And they look cool But for a fighting race, they're a net +2 Str, -2 Dex, +2 natural armor over a regular PHB 1/2 orc, hardly worth +2 LA. |
| Otto the Bugbear02-01-04, 10:48 PM | A quick search has left me wondering why the Mineral Warrior hasn't been added yet. That +1 LA is a pretty good deal for DR 8/adamantine, +3 to natural armor, and some stat adjustments (+2 str, +4 con, -2 int, -2 wis, -2 cha) Cheers Otto :) |
| Eisgowen02-12-04, 08:02 PM | would that feat that adds 2 to DR add to your adamantite DR? giving u 10/Adamant |
| adiaven02-13-04, 12:18 PM | Originally posted by foxylady But for a fighting race, they're a net +2 Str, -2 Dex, +2 natural armor over a regular PHB 1/2 orc, hardly worth +2 LA. huh? you mean net +4 Str. (Orog have +6, half orc has +2) And don't forget a net +4 to Cha too. Good for your intimidating barbarian build, or your Orc paladins :) |
| Griff_Goodbeard02-13-04, 12:36 PM | A quick search has left me wondering why the Mineral Warrior hasn't been added yet. That +1 LA is a pretty good deal for DR 8/adamantine, +3 to natural armor, and some stat adjustments (+2 str, +4 con, -2 int, -2 wis, -2 cha) What book is Mineral Warrior from??? -Griff |
| PhaedrusXY02-13-04, 01:09 PM | Originally posted by Griff_Goodbeard What book is Mineral Warrior from??? -Griff The Underdark. |
| Griff_Goodbeard02-13-04, 01:13 PM | :bounce: Thanks! -Griff |
| Teh Lurv02-13-04, 01:43 PM | Originally posted by PhaedrusXY The Underdark. In addition, the Mineral Warrior is exerpted in the Underdark product description on the Wizards' website. You can check it out without having to purchace (or borrow someone's) book. |