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NetGod 04-23-04, 04:16 PM	Hi everyone. First of all, although I am brand new to this forum, I have been playing D&D for well over 26 years, and continue to play today. I love the game. I love reading the posts of gamers from all over the world on this board. I think you guys are all great! Anyway, I am in need of a little help. I have long been a psionic nut. Even with 1st edition AD&D I was really into it. I am also a power-gamer, and really enjoy being creative. I love finding new ways to gain power. I would love to hear some fresh and very original ideas on how to gain more power points, more powers, more feats and how to boost the save DC of your powers. (Please exclude the obvious: wish spells, Feats: Expand Knowledge & Psionic Talent, ect, ect) Look forward to hearing your ideas! Thank you.
JohnnyONeal 04-23-04, 04:25 PM	Check out the Character Optimization (http://boards1.wizards.com/forumdisplay.php?s=&forumid=339) board for all your min-maxing needs!
Harmony's Sorrow 04-24-04, 04:34 PM	Ooh oooh!!!!!! I have a request! I want to see the "Death Field" power from second edition in a balanced 3.5 format!!!
WizO_TheCheat 04-24-04, 07:54 PM	I'm going to move this to the COB as it really has nothing to do with future WotC products. The folks over there should be able to help you whip something up. :)
LordShade 04-25-04, 12:53 AM	This is a bizarre request. Can you be more specific?
TaisharMalkier 04-25-04, 02:25 AM	Zug Zug. Not sure what you're looking for, but if you want something totally broken: At level 7 (5 feats - 2 Bonus from Psion, 3 Normal) Improved Unarmed Strike Improved Grapple Expanded Knowledge - Expansion Expanded Knowledge - Iron Grip Track [for illithid slayer in future - sides, who needs it] Metamorphisis into Treant (7 HD) base str - 29, Animal Affinity +4 str, Iron Grip (augmented to 7pp), Expansion (augmented to 2 sizes) +4 str Grapple Mod: +13 (str), +3 (bab), +4 improved grapple, +7 iron grip, +32 size = +59 grapple modifier at level 7. GG sir. Cheers
Whakapapa 04-25-04, 10:18 AM	wow! thats alot in grapple! (imagine this at lvl 20! :o
brayabbitt 04-27-04, 07:00 PM	I'd suggest checking the Psionics Handbook Board (http://boards1.wizards.com/forumdisplay.php?s=&forumid=30) .
Joe Bedurndurn 04-27-04, 07:19 PM	Originally posted by TaisharMalkier Zug Zug. Not sure what you're looking for, but if you want something totally broken: At level 7 (5 feats - 2 Bonus from Psion, 3 Normal) Improved Unarmed Strike Improved Grapple Expanded Knowledge - Expansion Expanded Knowledge - Iron Grip Track [for illithid slayer in future - sides, who needs it] Metamorphisis into Treant (7 HD) base str - 29, Animal Affinity +4 str, Iron Grip (augmented to 7pp), Expansion (augmented to 2 sizes) +4 str Grapple Mod: +13 (str), +3 (bab), +4 improved grapple, +7 iron grip, +32 size = +59 grapple modifier at level 7. GG sir. Cheers There's a couple of problems: 1) Grip of Iron augments as +2 to grapples/4 pp, since you can only spend up to 7, the best you can do it +6 to grapple for 5pp. 2) The size modifier for a Colossal creature is +16, not +32. The treant's normal size is Huge, so expansion will get you to Gargantuan (for 1 pp) or to Colossal (for 5pp). On the other hand, a grapple mod of: +13 Str, +3 BaB, +4 Improved Grapple, +6 Iron Grip, +16 Size = +42 is still crazy beyond measure. Laugh as your enemies run before Treezilla the Wrasslin' Avenger! :angel:
TaisharMalkier 04-28-04, 03:28 AM	Zug Zug. "There's a couple of problems: 1) Grip of Iron augments as +2 to grapples/4 pp, since you can only spend up to 7, the best you can do it +6 to grapple for 5pp. 2) The size modifier for a Colossal creature is +16, not +32. The treant's normal size is Huge, so expansion will get you to Gargantuan (for 1 pp) or to Colossal (for 5pp). " Teaches me to go off memory ;p. Didn't actually have the XPH so I guessed what I thought Iron Grip was - I got fairly close. For some reason at Gargantuan I thought size bonuses stop being linear (I was thinking of bonuses/penalities to AC/Attack) and instead doubled. Pleh. Forgot to mention, you can simply skip Iron Grip and Trip / Grapple as the situation calls for - you'll be comparatively much better at trip, because at this level your BAB is so low it's not adding too much. Anywho.... At level 20: I didn't look through the entire book, so you might find something better - also, I pretended that greater metamorphsis would be nerfed to 1 HD / Manifester level. Assume all powers augmented as much as possible. Egoist 10 / Illithid Slayer 10. Expanded Knowledge: Schism Expanded Knowledge: Iron Grip Expanded Knowledge: Expansion Improved Unarmed Strike Improved Grapple Track Greater Metamorphsis: Storm Giant, Schism (to manifest a power every round when grappling har har), Expansion, Iron Grip, Animal Affinity, power whose name I forget - level 5ish egoist - take ability burn up to manifester level in any stats you want, get unnamed bonus to any other stat Grapple Mod: +15 BAB, +29 (68 Strength - 39 base, 4 expansion, 4 animal affinity, +19 power I forget), +16 size, +12 iron grip, +4 improved grapple for a total of +76 to grapple checks. I'm fairly sure you could cheese it up a bit more to get a better one - such as taking Vow of Poverty (which would give 8 more strength I believe), getting items to do 1/day divine power 1/day righteous might (which would give 10 more strength and 5 more BAB inc shape), changing into an ancient gold wyrm (which is technically within the rules as in), etc, to raise it to perhaps +100 (with modifiers I did it was +90). Which would prolly be enough, considering the Tarrasque has +81 and an ancient wyrm gold dragon has +75. Cheers