Post/Author/DateTime	Post
DBercx 08-05-06, 04:04 AM	I like the 3.0 Master Of Chains prestige class from Sword & Fist, but my DM won't allow any 3.0 material, so I was wondering: is there a strictly 3.5 alternative for the Master Of Chains?
HelloRaptor 08-05-06, 04:50 AM	No.
DBercx 08-05-06, 07:04 AM	No. You forgot: "Go away!" :)
wolfie-kun 08-05-06, 08:14 AM	You forgot: "Go away!" :) That would just be rude :D Anyway, try and work things out with your DM for a more 3.5 version of the class (though you definitely came to the right place to ask if there was an update--the consolidated lists linked to from the main D&D page are also good, though they haven't been sorted in a year or so).
Kharmakazy 08-05-06, 09:46 AM	I see no point in ruling 3.0 out completely. Granted, I think a dm should only allow things on a case by case basis... but its a shame to throw out so much usefull material. Show him the class and see what he says. Ask em what changes he thinks should be made to make it 3.5 playable, if any. Most dm's are willing to work on things like that.
TheGinko 08-05-06, 02:55 PM	Master of Chains was absorbed into exotic weapon master... As to swinging from chains and such... There's a PrC that lets you swing from the trees in complete wild (I think)...
Kharmakazy 08-05-06, 03:07 PM	I always wanted to make a kyton chaingun tripper build... Sorry... not too related.
Abulafia 08-05-06, 04:34 PM	Here, I'll go ahead and make Master of Chains 3.5-compatible for your DM. Old, broken, unusable 3.0 PrC requirements: - Non-good alignment - Skills: Escape Artist: 6 ranks; Open Lock, Intimidate: 4 ranks each. - Feats: Expertise, Improved Trip, Improved Disarm, Weapon Focus (spiked chain), Weapon Specialization (spiked chain). Shiny, new, perfectly balanced 3.5-compatible PrC requirements: - Non-good alignment - Skills: Escape Artist: 6 ranks; Open Lock, Intimidate: 4 ranks each. - Feats: Combat Expertise, Improved Trip, Improved Disarm, Weapon Focus (spiked chain), Weapon Specialization (spiked chain). There's your newly balanced 3.5 Master of Chains! Go have fun!
DwarvinJedi 08-05-06, 04:47 PM	Here, I'll go ahead and make Master of Chains 3.5-compatible for your DM. Old, broken, unusable 3.0 PrC requirements: - Non-good alignment - Skills: Escape Artist: 6 ranks; Open Lock, Intimidate: 4 ranks each. - Feats: Expertise, Improved Trip, Improved Disarm, Weapon Focus (spiked chain), Weapon Specialization (spiked chain). Shiny, new, perfectly balanced 3.5-compatible PrC requirements: - Non-good alignment - Skills: Escape Artist: 6 ranks; Open Lock, Intimidate: 4 ranks each. - Feats: Combat Expertise, Improved Trip, Improved Disarm, Weapon Focus (spiked chain), Weapon Specialization (spiked chain). There's your newly balanced 3.5 Master of Chains! Go have fun! That made me laugh, but that is pretty much what I would do