Post/Author/DateTime	Post
Jairami 08-05-04, 02:28 PM	So here I am fighting this 15th level barbarian/frenzied berserker with morphic weapons when he goes and uses shapechange to turn into an 11 headed hydra and go to town with rage and frenzy. Then turns into a beholder to AMF my guy while his treant cohort pounds on me. I respect barbarian/frenzied berserkers. I respect war shapers and especially war shapers with shapechange. But how do you get all of that into a build legally in 3.5 core + complete divine/warrior by 15th level? Any clue?
Vapor IX 08-05-04, 03:02 PM	Let's see. Human? Barbarian 6 / Frenzied 'Zerker 1 / Bear Warrior 1 / Warshaper 1 / Frenzied 'Zerker 6 I'm guessing shapechange via an item somehow. Otherwise it doesn't really work.
Sisyfos 08-05-04, 07:16 PM	Divine intervention in the form of DM's helping hand? ;) Or there is also the possibility that someone has misunderstood the rules somewhere along the line? Or Use magic device + scroll.
Jairami 08-05-04, 11:27 PM	As far as I know it wasn't a scroll and there are no custom items allowed. The only item I can think in the core rules that would allow it would be a ring of spell storing, but one that can handle 9th level spells is out of the price range of a 15th level character. I figure it's gotta be innate some how and not likely an item because he had to qualify for warshaper... But I don't know of any core or complete book creature that is low enough ecl to have all those prestige classes by 15th ECL. It has me stumped. :)
Tenken 08-22-04, 10:22 PM	How can you be sure that Shapechange was used...?