+30 Skill Item Optimization [Archive] - Wizards Community

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ThePo

06-28-06, 03:10 PM
I'm building an epic wizard for a high level (30th) game and I want to get a +30 spellcraft item. I am a frequent reader of the boards but by no means a die hard one. I have seen around the place that a +30 competence item is considered legit and is the highest the item can go. Now I've looked in the DMG and all over for this limit but I can't find it. Is the +30 just an accepted non-epic ceiling or is there an actual rule somewhere I've missed because my DM wants to see it before I can have it.
carnivore

06-28-06, 04:27 PM
try this:

Epic Magic Items
While not truly an artifact, the epic magic item is a creation of such power that it surpasses other magic items. Epic magic items are objects of great power and value. The following are typical characteristics of an epic magic item. In general, an item with even one of these characteristics is an epic magic item.


Grants a bonus on attacks or damage greater than +5.
Grants an enhancement bonus to armor higher than +5.
Has a special ability with a market price modifier greater than +5.
Grants an armor bonus of greater than +10 (not including magic armor’s enhancement bonus).
Grants a natural armor, deflection, or resistance bonus greater than +5.
Grants an enhancement bonus to an ability score greater than +6.
Grants an enhancement bonus on a skill check greater than +30.
Mimics a spell of an effective level higher than 9th.
Has a caster level above 20th.
Has a market price above 200,000 gp, not including material costs for armor or weapons, material component- or experience point-based costs, or additional value for intelligent items.
An epic magic item that grants a bonus beyond those allowed for normal magic items has a higher market price than indicated by the formulas for non-epic items.

Epic magic items are not artifacts. They are not unique, though they are certainly very rare, and anyone with the proper item creation feats can build them. Even an epic magic item can never grant a dodge bonus, and the maximum inherent bonus that can be applied to an ability score is +5. An epic magic item cannot be created that uses or mimics an epic spell. A major artifact might be able to mimic such a spell, however.


for a +30 competence bonus.....
Skill bonus (competence) Bonus squared x 100 gp

so 30x30=900x100=90000gp

much less than EPIC costs....however...when the EPIC handbook was written......all skill bonus boosters were Enhancement bonuses,so it would be reasonable to adjust the reading to this:

"Grants an bonus on a skill check greater than +30.

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