34 attacks in a round. [Archive] - Wizards Community

34 attacks in a round. [Archive] - Wizards Community

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scrollreader
09-14-04, 04:57 AM So. I was flipping through Sword and Fist the other day out of nostalgia, and saw the Lasher. I immediately thought of the awesome picture of the thrikeen pyrokineticst in the XPH. And remembered that whips were slashing. :D

Thrikeen 1-4
Barbarian 1 ('whirling' variant rage)
Ftr 1-2
Lasher 1-3
Dervish 1-10

So. We have enough BAB for four attacks(4). Multiweapon Fighting, Improved and Greater give us another three. Each. (13) Lasher gives us another one (14). Now we use our 'Thousand Cuts ability, to double that (28). Now we add in the bonus attacks from our four Whips of speed. (32). Now we use our action surge (thank you, Eberron) for another attack, doubled by thousand cuts. (34)

So, once per day, we can make 34 attacks. In six seconds.

Once per day we can do 14 (feats) + 4 (speed weapons) + 1 ('whirling' rage) = 19 attacks for as long as our rage lasts. 20, if you can spend AP for action surge and another attack.

The rest of the time we only do 18 attacks with a full attack action.

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If I've left anything out, or miscalculated, please correct me. But it seems the reach from the whips would synergize well with the requirements of the dervish dance.
Cold Napalm
09-14-04, 05:29 AM Humm I thought of speed only gave +1 attack and that was to your primary attack only.

Anyways a whirling rage dervish TWF will do 18 attacks in a round anyways without being a trikeen or 4 weapons of speed.

5 primary attack 3 secondary attacks and 1 whirling...all doubled.

Want more fun? get eluisve target with combat reflexes. Each AoO that misses you, you get 2 more attacks. Although realistically combat reflexes is kind of overkill unless your in a mob since most critters only have one AoO and those that have more will probably stop after you raken them after they miss with their first AoO.
scrollreader
09-14-04, 05:42 AM You can't stack rage and dervish dance. Of any sort. Sadly. Else I'd be able to get him up to 36 attacks in a round. Which is where the blaster-artificer sits, ATM, firmly entrenched as the king badass himself.
Cold Napalm
09-14-04, 03:13 PM Fine so you sitting at 16 attacks in a round +1 for whirling if allowed to do that since reading the rules I don't think you can even get that. Same with your count. The rules says you only get one speed bonus and it does not stack with others like say haste. So you need to lower you count by 6...so 26 for non AP and 28 for AP. Still very impressive. I think dance is more then once per day as well...I'm pretty sure it's like 5x per day.
JabberWocky
09-14-04, 03:18 PM Weapons of speed don't stack with themselves or anything else that gives you extra attacks per round, I don't think. A whirling frenzy barbarian, for instance, or haste, frenzied berserker, or other speed weapons.
scrollreader
09-14-04, 04:05 PM Even without speed weapons I'm at 30 attacks in a round, thanks to the Multiweapon tree.

And dervish dance s[ecifically excludes rage, hence my exclusion of it. I really just like the speed boost, and the fast movement, and ftr 3 is a dead level. You can can go core barb, with my build, and not affect his one round mojo. It's more thematic to whirl, though, IMO.

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scrollreader 09-14-04, 04:57 AM	So. I was flipping through Sword and Fist the other day out of nostalgia, and saw the Lasher. I immediately thought of the awesome picture of the thrikeen pyrokineticst in the XPH. And remembered that whips were slashing. :D Thrikeen 1-4 Barbarian 1 ('whirling' variant rage) Ftr 1-2 Lasher 1-3 Dervish 1-10 So. We have enough BAB for four attacks(4). Multiweapon Fighting, Improved and Greater give us another three. Each. (13) Lasher gives us another one (14). Now we use our 'Thousand Cuts ability, to double that (28). Now we add in the bonus attacks from our four Whips of speed. (32). Now we use our action surge (thank you, Eberron) for another attack, doubled by thousand cuts. (34) So, once per day, we can make 34 attacks. In six seconds. Once per day we can do 14 (feats) + 4 (speed weapons) + 1 ('whirling' rage) = 19 attacks for as long as our rage lasts. 20, if you can spend AP for action surge and another attack. The rest of the time we only do 18 attacks with a full attack action. ---- If I've left anything out, or miscalculated, please correct me. But it seems the reach from the whips would synergize well with the requirements of the dervish dance.
Cold Napalm 09-14-04, 05:29 AM	Humm I thought of speed only gave +1 attack and that was to your primary attack only. Anyways a whirling rage dervish TWF will do 18 attacks in a round anyways without being a trikeen or 4 weapons of speed. 5 primary attack 3 secondary attacks and 1 whirling...all doubled. Want more fun? get eluisve target with combat reflexes. Each AoO that misses you, you get 2 more attacks. Although realistically combat reflexes is kind of overkill unless your in a mob since most critters only have one AoO and those that have more will probably stop after you raken them after they miss with their first AoO.
scrollreader 09-14-04, 05:42 AM	You can't stack rage and dervish dance. Of any sort. Sadly. Else I'd be able to get him up to 36 attacks in a round. Which is where the blaster-artificer sits, ATM, firmly entrenched as the king badass himself.
Cold Napalm 09-14-04, 03:13 PM	Fine so you sitting at 16 attacks in a round +1 for whirling if allowed to do that since reading the rules I don't think you can even get that. Same with your count. The rules says you only get one speed bonus and it does not stack with others like say haste. So you need to lower you count by 6...so 26 for non AP and 28 for AP. Still very impressive. I think dance is more then once per day as well...I'm pretty sure it's like 5x per day.
JabberWocky 09-14-04, 03:18 PM	Weapons of speed don't stack with themselves or anything else that gives you extra attacks per round, I don't think. A whirling frenzy barbarian, for instance, or haste, frenzied berserker, or other speed weapons.
scrollreader 09-14-04, 04:05 PM	Even without speed weapons I'm at 30 attacks in a round, thanks to the Multiweapon tree. And dervish dance s[ecifically excludes rage, hence my exclusion of it. I really just like the speed boost, and the fast movement, and ftr 3 is a dead level. You can can go core barb, with my build, and not affect his one round mojo. It's more thematic to whirl, though, IMO.