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Mystic Ninja 12-06-05, 09:15 PM	I'm going to be in a 5th level once off, and would like to play as a goblin [normal / blue / other - Neither have LA]. As its a once off and the DM has allowed "moderate to high cheese" does anyone have any suggestions where to take him? Literally anything short of a Master of Many Forms goblin Pun-Pun is allowed. I have almost all the 3rd and 3.5 ed books, and only magic of incarnum isn't allowed [as no one in our group has it]. I'd prefer a warrior goblin, but a psion or wizard would be acceptible if it leads to real ultimate power. I considered heading into Fiend of Possession but at 5th I can't animate objects or anything. I also considered a wild talenting, up the wallsing, battle jumping, monkey gripping, spear weilding death machine. But I know most of you fine fellas are better then I.
AramilWindwalker 12-06-05, 09:27 PM	I myself prefer goblins as druids or wizards, or both, but you want a warrior, so let's see what I can do: Goblin swash3/fighter2 simple, elegant and good, not blood spitting 8 headed dragons of death mind you but not bad with full bab and int to damage, it'll make up for your str penalty, using the free weapon finese feat from swash is a good idea, and maybe heading into dervish with this build could work, using scimitars, daggers, or any other slashing one handed or light weapon, this also implies twf, which with the dex bonuses and int to damage is a good idea, I would suggest using scimitars and using this build: swash3/fighter2/dervish10/tempest5 full bab decent saves, d10 hit dice, lots of extra not str based damage for your twf and feats that are somewhat open. plus a whirling goblin of death is kinda fun, and your innate hiding ability also allows you to scout for short periods if necessary, and riding things isn't an issue either. high stats dex, con, int, moderate str, lower cha and wisdom. some good feats are elusive target and the twf chain, especially since you picked up the elusive target pre reqs as feats needed for dervish.investing in sure striking weapons to overcome pesky damage reduction at higher levels will be useful, as will ghost touch, to a lesser degree. have fun
Mystic Ninja 12-06-05, 09:34 PM	I'm actually open to any / all suggestions. But the problem is that the game is 5th level once off. Single session. All my builds come into their own at 6th it seems. Although I do like the idea of a goblin swashbuckler, something I hadn't considered.
AramilWindwalker 12-06-05, 09:45 PM	ohh it's only one session, I see... that makes it harder, since you need to optimize without PrCs I still think that a goblin swashbuckler/fighter or maybe rogue would still be good, as oyu can have a good chance of hitting and decent damage(assuming an at least ok int), plus some acrobatic skills for when they are needed. I should try this build next time I play the fighter....(but I'm usually too busy being the cleric or druid who mauls everything, and can heal, or the psychotic goblin wiz/druid/arcane heirophant/mytic theurge who blows things up good)
neilthrun 12-06-05, 10:33 PM	Heres an idea. A Goblin Survivor, based around not dieing. Stat order, Con, Dex, Str, Wis, Int, Cha. Not overly powerfull, but it would be fun to play for a one shot game. Hexblade1-Toughness or Iron Will. Fighter1-Improved Toughness Ninja1-Second Wind(Mini Handbook) Survivor1- Survivor2-
nittanytbone 12-07-05, 10:31 AM	I like Spring Attacking, Tripping goblins. It is just so obnoxious, you can't help but think of it as the paragon of Goblin Fighting. Level 1: Rogue 1 (Combat Expertise) Level 2: Fighter 1 (Improved Trip) Level 3: Fighter 2 (Dodge, Mobility) Level 4: Fighter 3 Level 5: Fighter 4 (Spring Attack) That build would let you be the trapfinder too.
Mystic Ninja 12-07-05, 09:23 PM	I Had a thought, along those lines, of perhaps Barbarian / Monk with TWF and Snow Tiger Berserker / Imp Trip / Knockdown. - Just leap from person to person flurry tripping and being generally obnoxious.