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gfunk6266 10-20-03, 09:40 AM	So after my current character bit the dust, I'm bringing in a new 7th level one. Here are the stipulations: 1) 3.5 rules, 32 pt buy, 19,000 gp starting wealth 2) All core books 3) Races of Faerun 4) Book of Exalted Deeds 5) Savage Species (includes monsters in MM,MM2,FF) 6) Minatures Handbook I originally was thinking of playing a 7th level Astral Deva, but I would be very happy to hear other people's ideas. Please be creative, I will play anything if it sounds cool. I understand your time is valuable, so anything you can contribute would be appreciated!:)
eudas 10-20-03, 10:11 AM	you may want to start out on the char dev board, get some good concepts and RP design in hand, and then come back to the char opt board for securing it in rules. barring that, we'll need some more info on what kind of chars you like to play (casters vs fighters, melee vs ranged, good vs evil, subtle vs "Og Smash!", ...) eudas
nikademus 10-20-03, 10:18 AM	Hello, I would suggest a cleric archer ghaele build : Concept is a highly mobile archer with fly,good tumble (16+) , good perception and saves and finally full cleric casting until lvl 14. Ghaele 7 32 P Str 14 (6) / Int 8 (0) / Wis 14 (6) / Dex 16 (10) / Con 16 (10) / Cha 8 (0) Str +4 / Int +2 / Wis +2 / Dex +2 / Cha +2 at 7. Level Str 18 / Int 10 / Wis 16 / Dex 18 / Con 16 (18 w item)/ Cha 10 Feats 01) Point blank shot 03) Rapid shot 06) Precise shot Skills 27 + 7 + 40 = 74 Concentration 10 Spot 10 Listen 10 Escape Artist 10 Spellcraft 10 Sense Motive 4 Jump 5 Tumble 5 (16+) Hit Points : 6d8 + 24 Equipment Composite mighty +4 Longbow +1,holy (9.000) Belt of Constitution +2 (4.000) Ring of Tumble +5 (2.500) Lesser Metamagic Rod of Extension (3.000) Use Major Resistance extended for 14 hours res +3 on all saves and you have really good saves 5/5/5 + 3/3/3 + 4/4/3 = 12/12/11 Attack with bow Bab +6 Dex +4 Bow + 1 = +11/+6 Damage 1d8+2d6 (vs evil) +5 Nikademus
gfunk6266 10-20-03, 10:30 AM	Originally posted by eudas barring that, we'll need some more info on what kind of chars you like to play (casters vs fighters, melee vs ranged, good vs evil, subtle vs "Og Smash!", ...) Thanks, really, I'm looking for anything. I've played a lot of characters and am willing to try something new.
gfunk6266 10-20-03, 10:32 AM	Originally posted by nikademus Ghaele 7 Thanks, but Ghaeles have been removed as a PC race in 3.5 due to their lack of LA.
nikademus 10-20-03, 10:37 AM	Hello, Really ? Where does this stand or comes from ? Is this official ? You said you wanted to play a Deva. Nikademus
gfunk6266 10-20-03, 10:38 AM	Originally posted by nikademus Hello, Really ? Where does this stand or comes from ? Is this official ? You said you wanted to play a Deva. Nikademus Yes, both Devas and Trumpet Archons have a listed LA of +8 in the MM. Giving them a 20 ECL, just like in 3.0. You will notice, however, that the Ghaele has no LA listed. I think they thought it was too powerful to be a PC in 3.5.
Kalanth 10-20-03, 10:53 AM	I would say this, for flavor. Take a human Cleric or Sorcerer (dedicated to healing or Buffing). Take the feats Sacred Vow, Vow of Peace, Vow of Non-Violence, and Vow of Poverty. Then when the character qualifies for it, take the PrC of the Aposotle of Peace. Very cool build, and has the ability to quell someones rage (with no DC and no Spell resistance) and makes them no longer want to attack you or your friends. At the 4th level of that PrC you can also "turn" Fiends, Devils, and Demons. You gain a specific spell list for the PrC, but coupled with the Cleric or Sorcerer, this can actually be a powerfull class (even though you can't attack anything).
gfunk6266 10-20-03, 11:18 AM	Originally posted by Kalanth You gain a specific spell list for the PrC, but coupled with the Cleric or Sorcerer, this can actually be a powerfull class (even though you can't attack anything). Wow! That is interesting AND creative. I'll look into that for sure, thanks!
Kalanth 10-20-03, 11:59 AM	Originally posted by gfunk6266 Wow! That is interesting AND creative. I'll look into that for sure, thanks! No problem, it was my pleasure. Actually, the build was something I had been thinking about the last couple of days, and then I found a great opportunity to share it with the rest of the D&D community. The other one (which I have as an NPC) is a Ranger 6 / Wizard 4 / Arcane Archer 6 / Skylord 4*. Skylord is also from the BoED, and the characters gets a celestial Eagle/Owl/Pegasus as a mount along with +2 to caster level at level 4. There are some other things, but overall, it turned out to be a real nice Archer build.
draegl0th 10-20-03, 12:17 PM	Play a Sylph. Do a search in the Savage Species board for the progression ;)
Kalanth 10-20-03, 12:37 PM	Well, if you want a different race, then why not do this with an Ogre or a Nymph. Be exotic and bizzare.
draegl0th 10-20-03, 12:39 PM	Apostle of Peace? Isn't that the new Ur-Priest everyone's talking about? :P I definitely want to look into that. Mystic Theurge, anyone?
Kalanth 10-20-03, 12:41 PM	Apostle of Peace cannot attack or commit any acts of violence, else all abilities of the PrC and the Feats needed to achieve that PrC become useless (until the character atones for their sins). As for Mystic Theurge on top of this, it could work if you build it with Sorcerer or Wizard then take Apostle of Peace and then Mystic Thurge, though you would not be a truly dominating force with the divine spells, cause AoP only has four caster levels.
gfunk6266 10-20-03, 02:29 PM	Originally posted by Kalanth No problem, it was my pleasure. Actually, the build was something I had been thinking about the last couple of days, and then I found a great opportunity to share it with the rest of the D&D community. Okay, now that I've been able to look through my BoED I agree with you even more that it is a very cool combo. OK, here's the build: 32 pt buy Str 8 Dex 14 Con 15 Int 12 Wis 15 + 1 level +2 enhancement= 18 Cha 14 I think I would like to go NG Cleric (Human) Cleric 1 -- Sacred Vow, Vow of Poverty Cleric 2 -- Vow of Nonviolence* Cleric 3 -- Vow of Peace Cleric 4 -- Vow of Abstience* Cleric 5 Cleric 6 -- Nimbus of Light, Vow of Purity* Cleric 7 Abilities (from Vow of Peace/Poverty) AC bonus +6 [exalted], resistance +1, deflection +4, natural armor +4, sustenance, exalted strike +1 (magic), endure elements AC=10+6+4+4+2= 26 (FF 14, Touch 16) HP=8+4+5+4+5+4+5+14= 49 Saves Fort = 5+2+1 = 8 Ref = 2+2+1 = 5 Will = 5+4+1 = 10 Other Nifty tricks: +4 Fort saves vs poison Calming aura 20 ft (Will DC 15) Manufactured weapons shatter against my skin, leaving me unharmed (Fort DC 15) +6 bonus to Diplomacy (Sacred Vow + Vow of Peace) [+8 vs good] +2 bons on Sense motive vs good Plus, I get 19,000 gp to throw in the streets when I walk through town. SWEET! This progression would be followed up by 10 levels of Apostle of Peace and 2 final levels of Cleric. Thoughts?
Kalanth 10-20-03, 02:37 PM	Very cool. You went through it and managed to achieve what I was thinking (Since my home computer is dead I can't actually work it out on the boards). I like what you did, and, as you said, you get to start out with enough money to "buy" a reputation through charitable donations. People will be shouting your name in the streets.