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Xperiment 05-09-05, 05:16 PM	I know there are multiple ways to get level 9 divine and arcane casting, but is there a build that gets level 9 arcane/level 9 divine/+16 BAB? I am hoping for a Wizard/Cleric, so no Ur-Priest unless absolutely needed, thanks. Books available would be: Core books, Complete Series (excluding Complete Arcane), Book of Vile Darkness, Masters of the Wild, Tome and Blood, Sword and Fist, Draconomicron, Unearthed Arcana, and Expanded Psionics Handbook. Thanks, X
PhaedrusXY 05-09-05, 05:27 PM	I know there are multiple ways to get level 9 divine and arcane casting, but is there a build that gets level 9 arcane/level 9 divine/+16 BAB? I am hoping for a Wizard/Cleric, so no Ur-Priest unless absolutely needed, thanks.Edit: Hmm... actually, I think some of the Fochluchan Lyricist builds accomplish this by using Sublime Chord. I don't have a link to any threads, or any saved builds, though.
Xperiment 05-09-05, 05:30 PM	Another problem is I don't have access to Complete Arcane so Sublime Chord is out...
MechaboyDos 05-09-05, 06:52 PM	Only way I can think of is some sort of Gestalt character.
DM Denubis 05-09-05, 07:04 PM	Well, it's one hell of a challenge, but I really don't think it's possible to do without Sublime Chord/Apostle of Peace/Ur-Priest. Personally, I'd aim for Rogue 2/Bard 4/Druid 4/Sublime Chord 1/Apostle of Peace 1/Fochlucan Lyrist 8. However, I'm almost certain that even with Able Learner, it's impossible to qualify for Sublime Chord this way, due to a spellcasting requirement.
Boondoggle 05-09-05, 11:39 PM	Try doing the google domain search for 'tripple threat'. This idea has been tried before.
LordKiwi 05-10-05, 04:38 AM	Another problem is I don't have access to Complete Arcane so Sublime Chord is out... Without Ur-Priest/Apostle and Sublime Chord I can see no way of doing this at all. Even then I've spent a little time looking at it and have trouble making a qualifying build. There needs to be some give somewhere. A Folchian Lyrist Build like this... Druid 7 / Bard 1 / Master Thrower 2 / Folchian Lyrist 10 Would grant you +17 BAB, 9th level druid spells and 4th level bard spells. Druid 7 / Bard 1 / Master Thrower 2 / Folchian Lyrist 6 / Sublime Chord 1 / Folchian Lyrist 3 Would grant you +16 BAB, 9th level druid spells and 6th level arcane spells. Druid 4 / Bard 1 / Arcane Heirophant 4 / Master Thrower 2 / Folchyan Lyrist 2 / Sublime Chord 1 / Folchyan Lyrist 6 Would grant you +16 BAB, 9th level druid spells and 7th level arcane spells. Druid 1 / Bard 7 / Master Thrower 2 / Sublime Chord 1 / Ur-Priest 1 / Folchyan Lyrist 8 Would grant you +15 BAB, 9th level druid spells and 9th level arcane spells. I haven't checked them very well for prerequisites (mainly feats & skills) but there are as close as I can manage. I personaly love tripple threat builds but you have to loose a little power somewhere for them to happen. Lord Kiwi,
PhaedrusXY 05-10-05, 05:01 AM	Another problem is I don't have access to Complete Arcane so Sublime Chord is out...No Ur-Priest + no Sublime Chord = Not Possible.
goblinsnot 05-10-05, 09:50 AM	You need to be able to cast first level arcane spells to qualify for Fochluchan Lyrist, so it's a minimum of Bard 2 unless you take another spellcasting class...
warpdragon 05-10-05, 12:12 PM	Try this thread, less than a month old: http://boards1.wizards.com/showthread.php?t=411584