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Zzasrix 08-17-06, 08:12 PM	Im sure this has been hashed out a few times so in your post any links would be appriciated. (and yes i did look for about a week) :) Divine Psionisist The purpose of this build is to gain 9th level spells in Psionics and Divine Casting. There was unfortunatly no time to dip into better or more effective PRC's as every level needs to improve caster level or manifester level. Books used: PHB, Complete Psionic, Complete Divine 17th LvL Manifester, 17th LvL Divine Casting Human Ardent 1/ Cleric 3/ Psycic Theurge 10/ Contemplative 4/ Anarchic Initiate 2 32 Pt Build 8 Str 12 Dex 14 Con 12 Int 18 Wis 10 Cha Ardent 1 Mantle (2) (Time, Freedom) F-Practiced Manifestor HF-Tap Mantle (Energy) Cleric 1 Domain- (Luck, Time) Cleric 2 F- Extra Turning Cleric 3 (+1 Wis) Psychic Theurge 1 Psychic Theurge 2 F- Overchannel Psychic Theurge 3 Psychic Theurge 4 (+1 Wis) Psychic Theurge 5 F- Extend Spell Psychic Theurge 6 Psychic Theurge 7 Psychic Theurge 8 (+1 wis) F- Persistent Spell Psychic Theurge 9 Psychic Theurge 10 Contemplative 1 F- Divine Metamagic (Persistent) Domain- (Freedom) Anarchic Initiate 1 (+1 Wis) Anarchic Initiate 2 Contemplative 2 F- Extra Turning? Contemplative 3 Contemplative 4 (+1 Wis) So the question is... how to make it better? Should I concentrate more on Divine spellcasting and let the Psionics simply amplify the fighting power, or should I try and spread out the abilities a bit more? The other thing that looks like it needs a little work is the feat tree. Those branches look pretty sparce. :) I toyed around with the idea of adding VoP to the mix, but that might start messing with the Ardent Powers a little too much, and im not sure how that affects the Persistant spells, but it may just fit if it doesnt hurt either of those. Z
Zzasrix 08-17-06, 11:06 PM	Bump... Anyone?
Taeldrin Laesrash 08-17-06, 11:39 PM	Patience, grasshopper... It looks as though you've only got 13th-level manifesting. Ardent 8/ Ur-Priest 2/Psychic Theurge 10 nets 9th level in both, although I'm sure there's another way to do it. As for feats, if you want to focused on DMed buffs, fine by me. However, another alternative would be some metapsionic feats, especially given that you're tapping the Energy mantle.
Mystic Ninja 08-17-06, 11:52 PM	First of all, I don't see how this character is actually, you know, legal. You don't qualify for Psychic Theurge, practiced manifester doesn't grant you powers known [so you have 2 first level powers, and a manifester level of 4 when you try to get into it, which you can't] Assuming you were able to get in [see point 1], you then get up to 9th level powers, but with only 14 powers known [maximum of one of these being 9th level power] and 147 base power points. Personally, I think you're better off going the Ur-Priest route [Taeldrin Laesrash's build isn't legal thou. A legal version - Ardent 10 / Ur-Priest 2 / Psychic Theurge 8 [due to the +3 base fort save you need.] Edit: Removed personal feelings about the Ardent class, which weren't needed.
Zzasrix 08-18-06, 09:26 PM	I was a little off... but only by one level and its placement.... Human Ardent 2/ Cleric 3/ Psycic Theurge 10/ Contemplative 4/ Anarchic Initiate 1 32 Pt Build 8 Str 12 Dex 14 Con 12 Int 18 Wis 10 Cha Ardent 1 Mantle (2) (Time, Freedom) F-Practiced Manifestor HF- Overchannel Cleric 1 Domain- (Luck, Time) Cleric 2 F- Extra Turning Cleric 3 (+1 Wis) Ardent 2 Mantle (Energy) Psychic Theurge 1 F- Extend Spell Psychic Theurge 2 Psychic Theurge 3 (+1 Wis) Psychic Theurge 4 F- Persistent Spell Psychic Theurge 5 Psychic Theurge 6 Psychic Theurge 7 (+1 wis) F- Divine Metamagic (Persistent) Psychic Theurge 8 Psychic Theurge 9 Psychic Theurge 10 F- Quicken spell Contemplative 1 Domain- (Freedom) (+1 Wis) Anarchic Initiate 1 F- Divine Metamagic (Quicken) Contemplative 2 Contemplative 3 Contemplative 4 (+1 Wis) Sorry about that... the build should now work with RAW. True that the power points arent incredible (probably around 200, depending on gear and such)... but there is only one level 9 power to go after anyways. Also, with a full complement of Cleric casting to back it up it may not matter. We could disagree over the ardent class but ill post any necessary information if that's the case. Thanks for looking Z