A bard & his bow. [Archive] - Wizards Community

A bard & his bow. [Archive] - Wizards Community

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Khazra Reborn
11-23-05, 11:32 AM I was considering making a bard for an upcoming & having alway played melee bards/SC gishes previously, i am looking for something a bit new. This led me into wondering if the bard can make an effective archer?

So far ive came up with the following and its just a shaky base:
magic blooded human
bard 20 (original, no? ;) )
Feats(not posessed by every archer under the sun):
words of creation, song of the heart.
Items:
bow of song from CV

Basicly my idea is to buff cha through the roof, sing & shoot things so far. With a cha of 38 (thats the max i can get) i have +24 to hit & damage which seems pretty good for an archer (+14 cha,+10 inspire courage).
But, is bard the way to go or should i try a more traditional approach? Is it worth taking warchanter to get BaB/abilities in exchange for spells? Anyhelp much appreciated.
Medicelious-Melharmonac
11-23-05, 11:43 AM Basicly my idea is to buff cha through the roof, sing & shoot things so far. With a cha of 38 (thats the max i can get) i have +24 to hit & damage which seems pretty good for an archer (+14 cha,+10 inspire courage).

You forgot your +15 BAB. So you would be +39/+34/+29 at level 20.

You could work in Peerless Archer 3. For power Shot, you Cha mod would easily allow you the freedom to trade to hit for increased damage.
rilem
11-23-05, 11:47 AM Not familiar with magic-blooded human and what it gives you, but Bards make perfectly good archers.

Depending on what level you're starting at, you could also go:

Elven Bard18/arcane archer2
Elven Bard16/aa2/EK2
Half-elf fighter2/bard16/arcanearcher2.

Bard has got a couple good area-effect spells that work well with imbue arrow. Probably worth the loss of +1 in inspire courage. All these get 6th level spells, and the latter two get +16 BAB, as well.
Aramas
11-23-05, 11:49 AM Bards can make very good archers. The only thing that might be an issue is staying within 30' of your party so they can benefit from bardic music.

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
Khazra Reborn 11-23-05, 11:32 AM	I was considering making a bard for an upcoming & having alway played melee bards/SC gishes previously, i am looking for something a bit new. This led me into wondering if the bard can make an effective archer? So far ive came up with the following and its just a shaky base: magic blooded human bard 20 (original, no? ;) ) Feats(not posessed by every archer under the sun): words of creation, song of the heart. Items: bow of song from CV Basicly my idea is to buff cha through the roof, sing & shoot things so far. With a cha of 38 (thats the max i can get) i have +24 to hit & damage which seems pretty good for an archer (+14 cha,+10 inspire courage). But, is bard the way to go or should i try a more traditional approach? Is it worth taking warchanter to get BaB/abilities in exchange for spells? Anyhelp much appreciated.
Medicelious-Melharmonac 11-23-05, 11:43 AM	Basicly my idea is to buff cha through the roof, sing & shoot things so far. With a cha of 38 (thats the max i can get) i have +24 to hit & damage which seems pretty good for an archer (+14 cha,+10 inspire courage). You forgot your +15 BAB. So you would be +39/+34/+29 at level 20. You could work in Peerless Archer 3. For power Shot, you Cha mod would easily allow you the freedom to trade to hit for increased damage.
rilem 11-23-05, 11:47 AM	Not familiar with magic-blooded human and what it gives you, but Bards make perfectly good archers. Depending on what level you're starting at, you could also go: Elven Bard18/arcane archer2 Elven Bard16/aa2/EK2 Half-elf fighter2/bard16/arcanearcher2. Bard has got a couple good area-effect spells that work well with imbue arrow. Probably worth the loss of +1 in inspire courage. All these get 6th level spells, and the latter two get +16 BAB, as well.
Aramas 11-23-05, 11:49 AM	Bards can make very good archers. The only thing that might be an issue is staying within 30' of your party so they can benefit from bardic music.