Post/Author/DateTime	Post
zivpeled 05-19-05, 10:12 AM	ok im almost sure this is not new, but search is down so i need your help im using this build : humen(most likely) wizard 3/druid 3/mystic thurege 1/arcane hirofent 10/MT 3 (im using fractional BAB from UA to cut MT levels in the begining) as you can see this guy has CL17 in both arcane and druidic magic so he is a heavey spell slinger. chocher is known to be the casters little tweak to cast two spells in one round. to add to that i have wild shape of a 13 lvl druid so lets try to get the chocker using feats asap into the build. i have mapd out all the class levels so im looking o a way to make a chocker a viable wild shape and gain the quickenss(SQ). now i know that with ABBARATION BLOOD(LoM) and ABBERENT WILD SHAPE(LoM) i can turn into a chocker with two feats but i dont gain the SQ of the new form. im missing two things how to make him have SQ for quickness and how to be able to cast in wild shape (i know thete is a way i just cant find the right feats). this picks up as much as i can say 4 feats that leaves room for : imp.init, parcticed spell caster, natural bond and one more feat. Edit : ok wild shape casting is solve it was under my nose all the time NATURAL SPELL (PHB) i feel ashamed not seeing it. Edit : ok found the Assume SU from SS i think it solves the last problam for one killer caster
carnivore 05-19-05, 10:30 AM	nonverbal spell(planar handbook)...allows you to make any sounds to substitute for verbal spell components....can be used in any form.....nobody will know you are casting a spell...just cough,whistle,sneeze,fart,hoot,etc....wh atever you like :D
runestar 05-19-05, 10:38 AM	I think there's a feat in savage species that allows your shapeshifted character to assume supernatural abilities of its shifted form. It should allow you access to the haste ability of choker. After that, go wild.
carnivore 05-19-05, 10:45 AM	Metamorphic Transfer :D
zivpeled 05-19-05, 11:09 AM	Metamorphic Transfer :D from where is that i dont remember . can you please clarefiy ? carnivore thenks thats a great one
Pinky's brain 05-19-05, 11:17 AM	That typing of yours is painfull to be on the receiving end of ... It's a psionic feat (http://www.d20srd.org/srd/psionic/psionicFeats.htm#metamorphicTransfer).
carnivore 05-19-05, 11:42 AM	METAMORPHIC TRANSFER [PSIONIC] You can gain a supernatural ability of a metamorphed form. Prerequisite: Wis 13, manifester level 5th. Benefit: Each time you change your form, such as through the metamorphosis power, you gain one of the new form’s supernatural abilities, if it has any. You gain only three uses of the metamorphic ability per day, even if the creature into which you metamorph has a higher limit on uses (You are still subject to other restrictions on the use of the ability.) The save DC to resist a supernatural ability gained through Metamorphic Transfer (if it is an attack) is 10 + your Cha modifier + 1/2 your Hit Dice. Normal: You cannot use the supernatural abilities of creatures whose form you assume. Special: You can gain this feat multiple times. Each time, you can gain one additional supernatural ability. :D