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mycroft65536
08-03-04, 02:56 PM I want to make a character that has a very high movement rate. Either a spring attacker or a scout etc. Now some of you might just say monk, but the monk is for chumps i say so here is what i got:

level1 Barbarian +10 Unnamed
celerity domain +10 (don't know name)
quick trait +10 unnamed
speed of thought +10 insight
Boots of skate +15 enhancement
Dash feat +5 unnamed
Up the walls/jump: just useful with high movement
I need a good race for high base speed (lowest ecl possible), and anything else that will inprove my movement
Vapor IX
08-03-04, 03:14 PM Check out these two threads:

http://boards1.wizards.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=240161

http://boards1.wizards.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=233511
EatFlan
08-03-04, 03:54 PM feral gives you a boost too, shade template also.
Tilla
08-03-04, 05:11 PM Catfolk - ECL+1, in the MiniHB - favored class Ranger, +4 Dex, +2 Cha, +1 NA, +10 Base Speed

Not sure if it's worth the ECL+1 to you.
allenchan
08-03-04, 06:14 PM I like Grey Orcs with their 40ft speed. A barbarian / Cleric Grey orc makes perfect sense from a flavor POV, too, and the get + to wis and str, I believe, along with other stuff. (+1 LA)
amalcon
08-03-04, 06:18 PM I seem to remember something about a werecheetah that can go mach 2 for a round a day
mycroft65536
08-03-04, 07:30 PM Any good ecl-0 races with a 40 base movement?
I just want 80-100 movement with minimal feats and LA.
I don't want this to be all my character can do so anthropamorphic half celestial cheeta isn't a character i want to play.
I'm not looking for the fastest but a way to make a otherwise normal character very fast.
obrysii
08-03-04, 11:21 PM A Centaur Monk 20 w/ Horseshoes of Speed and the Saddle of Speed 5 in 3.0 could get pretty darn fast. 1,600ft movement in a run; 2,000ft movement with the Run feat. 400ft normal movement. (A monk in 3.0 increased their base speed by x3...so a 20th level centaur monk would have 150ft movement speed. Add the Saddle of Speed 5, which adds 50ft, you hace 200ft movement. The horseshoes of speed double the movement, so you have 400ft base movement).

This no longer works in 3.5, and it would be ECL 26 to be that fast, anyway.
amalcon
08-04-04, 01:03 AM Originally posted by mycroft65536
Any good ecl-0 races with a 40 base movement?

There are those rat-things in OA
Blade2718
08-04-04, 01:12 AM I thought I saw one in the Planar Handbook when browsing it the other day.
allenchan
08-04-04, 01:31 AM Originally posted by amalcon
There are those rat-things in OA

Nezumi! Oh yea. And I think they get +2 Con -2 Cha.
Only problem is you have to look like a wererat :(
bowstar
08-04-04, 09:21 AM If you’re looking for speed this may help:

If you want a standard race look at the 3.5 Faerun guide for the regional feat Fleet of Foot. Adds +10 to base speed. Take that and barbarian and there is +20.

If you use the UA book there is a trait called "Quick". Adds a +10 to base but you -1 HP a level.

And the ultimate speed freak (in my opinion) is found in the Expanded Psionics Handbook.

Xephs
+2 Dex, -2 STR
Base land speed +30
60 feet darkvision
+1 to all saves against any type of spell
*****BURST (SU): Three times a day you can put on a burst of speed by 10 feet, plus 10 feet per 4 character levels beyond 1st, to a max increase of +30 at 9th. Each burst acts as a competence bonus to your speed and lasts for 3 rounds each.

Best of all there is no level adjustment.

Hope this helps.
Tilla
08-05-04, 10:50 AM Hmm - minimal feats/ECl?

I'd highly recommend the psionic race mentioned then... ECL of 0 beats CatFolks +1, and their 60 to the 40 is awesome.

Regardless of race, after that, your best bet is as follows:

Feat mentioned above (+10')
Trait Quick: (+10')
Barbarian (+10')
Cleric 1 - Domain Celerity & Travel (+10') and (+10' from Longstrider) and (+30 feet Expeditious Retreat)

I can't think of anything else without magic or magic items...

Although I'd still recommend 4 levels of monk for another +10, those 4 levels are nothing to sneer at and bettern 90% of the PrC's out there.
Vapor IX
08-05-04, 11:42 AM Actually, the Xeph has a base land speed of 30 ft. Not 60 ft.

Let's see.

Feral Half-Minotaur Nezumi Ex-Barbarian 1 / Cleric of Fharlanghn 1 / Druidic Avenger 1 / Variant Ranger 1 / Monk 16

Base Speed 40 (Nezumi - Oriental Adventures)

+10 (Feral - Savage Species)
+10 (Half-Minotaur - Dragon 310)
+10 (Quick Trait - Unearthed Arcana)

+10 (Barbarian Fast Movement - PHB)
+10 (Celerity Domain granted power - Complete Divine)
+10 (Druidic Avenger Fast Movement - Unearthed Arcana)
+10 (Variant Ranger Fast Movement - Unearthed Arcana)
+50 (Monk Fast Movement - PHB)

+10 (Fleet of Foot [ignoring racial req] - Players Guide to Faerun)
+5 (Dash feat - Song and Silence)

= 175 feet per round, base movement speed

+30 (Expeditious Retreat spell - PHB)

= 205 feet per round, buffed up

I'm sure there are more items and such, but yeah.

EDIT: Took out Longstrider, Skate, and Burst because they are all enhancement bonuses and don't stack with Expeditious Retreat. I'm not totally sure that using the variant classes that grant Fast Movement is kosher. But 205 feet a round without running is most excellent.
allenchan
08-05-04, 03:46 PM Can you use Rokugan? The Ninja class gives a speed bonus of Con bonus x 5, I think.
Ellanon
08-09-04, 01:33 PM Originally posted by Vapor IX
Actually, the Xeph has a base land speed of 30 ft. Not 60 ft.

Let's see.

Feral Half-Minotaur Nezumi Ex-Barbarian 1 / Cleric of Fharlanghn 1 / Druidic Avenger 1 / Variant Ranger 1 / Monk 16

Base Speed 40 (Nezumi - Oriental Adventures)

+10 (Feral - Savage Species)
+10 (Half-Minotaur - Dragon 310)
+10 (Quick Trait - Unearthed Arcana)

+10 (Barbarian Fast Movement - PHB)
+10 (Celerity Domain granted power - Complete Divine)
+10 (Druidic Avenger Fast Movement - Unearthed Arcana)
+10 (Variant Ranger Fast Movement - Unearthed Arcana)
+50 (Monk Fast Movement - PHB)

+10 (Fleet of Foot [ignoring racial req] - Players Guide to Faerun)
+5 (Dash feat - Song and Silence)

= 175 feet per round, base movement speed

+30 (Expeditious Retreat spell - PHB)

= 205 feet per round, buffed up

I'm sure there are more items and such, but yeah.

EDIT: Took out Longstrider, Skate, and Burst because they are all enhancement bonuses and don't stack with Expeditious Retreat. I'm not totally sure that using the variant classes that grant Fast Movement is kosher. But 205 feet a round without running is most excellent.

205' per round is 116.5 mph/187.5 kph. Crazy. Numbers like that are the reason I asked about horizontal damage (http://boards1.wizards.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=283493).
Abulafia
08-09-04, 04:06 PM Originally posted by Vapor IX
+50 (Monk Fast Movement - PHB)
[:]
+30 (Expeditious Retreat spell - PHB)

EDIT: Took out Longstrider, Skate, and Burst because they are all enhancement bonuses and don't stack with Expeditious Retreat. I'm not totally sure that using the variant classes that grant Fast Movement is kosher. But 205 feet a round without running is most excellent. Take out Expeditious Retreat too, or the Monk levels. Monk speed bonus is an enhancement bonus in 3.5
AlienFromBeyond
08-09-04, 04:10 PM Originally posted by allenchan
Can you use Rokugan? The Ninja class gives a speed bonus of Con bonus x 5, I think.
It does indeed. It would be amusing to couple that with the new Deepwarden getting Con to AC...

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
mycroft65536 08-03-04, 02:56 PM	I want to make a character that has a very high movement rate. Either a spring attacker or a scout etc. Now some of you might just say monk, but the monk is for chumps i say so here is what i got: level1 Barbarian +10 Unnamed celerity domain +10 (don't know name) quick trait +10 unnamed speed of thought +10 insight Boots of skate +15 enhancement Dash feat +5 unnamed Up the walls/jump: just useful with high movement I need a good race for high base speed (lowest ecl possible), and anything else that will inprove my movement
Vapor IX 08-03-04, 03:14 PM	Check out these two threads: http://boards1.wizards.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=240161 http://boards1.wizards.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=233511
EatFlan 08-03-04, 03:54 PM	feral gives you a boost too, shade template also.
Tilla 08-03-04, 05:11 PM	Catfolk - ECL+1, in the MiniHB - favored class Ranger, +4 Dex, +2 Cha, +1 NA, +10 Base Speed Not sure if it's worth the ECL+1 to you.
allenchan 08-03-04, 06:14 PM	I like Grey Orcs with their 40ft speed. A barbarian / Cleric Grey orc makes perfect sense from a flavor POV, too, and the get + to wis and str, I believe, along with other stuff. (+1 LA)
amalcon 08-03-04, 06:18 PM	I seem to remember something about a werecheetah that can go mach 2 for a round a day
mycroft65536 08-03-04, 07:30 PM	Any good ecl-0 races with a 40 base movement? I just want 80-100 movement with minimal feats and LA. I don't want this to be all my character can do so anthropamorphic half celestial cheeta isn't a character i want to play. I'm not looking for the fastest but a way to make a otherwise normal character very fast.
obrysii 08-03-04, 11:21 PM	A Centaur Monk 20 w/ Horseshoes of Speed and the Saddle of Speed 5 in 3.0 could get pretty darn fast. 1,600ft movement in a run; 2,000ft movement with the Run feat. 400ft normal movement. (A monk in 3.0 increased their base speed by x3...so a 20th level centaur monk would have 150ft movement speed. Add the Saddle of Speed 5, which adds 50ft, you hace 200ft movement. The horseshoes of speed double the movement, so you have 400ft base movement). This no longer works in 3.5, and it would be ECL 26 to be that fast, anyway.
amalcon 08-04-04, 01:03 AM	Originally posted by mycroft65536 Any good ecl-0 races with a 40 base movement? There are those rat-things in OA
Blade2718 08-04-04, 01:12 AM	I thought I saw one in the Planar Handbook when browsing it the other day.
allenchan 08-04-04, 01:31 AM	Originally posted by amalcon There are those rat-things in OA Nezumi! Oh yea. And I think they get +2 Con -2 Cha. Only problem is you have to look like a wererat :(
bowstar 08-04-04, 09:21 AM	If you’re looking for speed this may help: If you want a standard race look at the 3.5 Faerun guide for the regional feat Fleet of Foot. Adds +10 to base speed. Take that and barbarian and there is +20. If you use the UA book there is a trait called "Quick". Adds a +10 to base but you -1 HP a level. And the ultimate speed freak (in my opinion) is found in the Expanded Psionics Handbook. Xephs +2 Dex, -2 STR Base land speed +30 60 feet darkvision +1 to all saves against any type of spell *****BURST (SU): Three times a day you can put on a burst of speed by 10 feet, plus 10 feet per 4 character levels beyond 1st, to a max increase of +30 at 9th. Each burst acts as a competence bonus to your speed and lasts for 3 rounds each. Best of all there is no level adjustment. Hope this helps.
Tilla 08-05-04, 10:50 AM	Hmm - minimal feats/ECl? I'd highly recommend the psionic race mentioned then... ECL of 0 beats CatFolks +1, and their 60 to the 40 is awesome. Regardless of race, after that, your best bet is as follows: Feat mentioned above (+10') Trait Quick: (+10') Barbarian (+10') Cleric 1 - Domain Celerity & Travel (+10') and (+10' from Longstrider) and (+30 feet Expeditious Retreat) I can't think of anything else without magic or magic items... Although I'd still recommend 4 levels of monk for another +10, those 4 levels are nothing to sneer at and bettern 90% of the PrC's out there.
Vapor IX 08-05-04, 11:42 AM	Actually, the Xeph has a base land speed of 30 ft. Not 60 ft. Let's see. Feral Half-Minotaur Nezumi Ex-Barbarian 1 / Cleric of Fharlanghn 1 / Druidic Avenger 1 / Variant Ranger 1 / Monk 16 Base Speed 40 (Nezumi - Oriental Adventures) +10 (Feral - Savage Species) +10 (Half-Minotaur - Dragon 310) +10 (Quick Trait - Unearthed Arcana) +10 (Barbarian Fast Movement - PHB) +10 (Celerity Domain granted power - Complete Divine) +10 (Druidic Avenger Fast Movement - Unearthed Arcana) +10 (Variant Ranger Fast Movement - Unearthed Arcana) +50 (Monk Fast Movement - PHB) +10 (Fleet of Foot [ignoring racial req] - Players Guide to Faerun) +5 (Dash feat - Song and Silence) = 175 feet per round, base movement speed +30 (Expeditious Retreat spell - PHB) = 205 feet per round, buffed up I'm sure there are more items and such, but yeah. EDIT: Took out Longstrider, Skate, and Burst because they are all enhancement bonuses and don't stack with Expeditious Retreat. I'm not totally sure that using the variant classes that grant Fast Movement is kosher. But 205 feet a round without running is most excellent.
allenchan 08-05-04, 03:46 PM	Can you use Rokugan? The Ninja class gives a speed bonus of Con bonus x 5, I think.
Ellanon 08-09-04, 01:33 PM	Originally posted by Vapor IX Actually, the Xeph has a base land speed of 30 ft. Not 60 ft. Let's see. Feral Half-Minotaur Nezumi Ex-Barbarian 1 / Cleric of Fharlanghn 1 / Druidic Avenger 1 / Variant Ranger 1 / Monk 16 Base Speed 40 (Nezumi - Oriental Adventures) +10 (Feral - Savage Species) +10 (Half-Minotaur - Dragon 310) +10 (Quick Trait - Unearthed Arcana) +10 (Barbarian Fast Movement - PHB) +10 (Celerity Domain granted power - Complete Divine) +10 (Druidic Avenger Fast Movement - Unearthed Arcana) +10 (Variant Ranger Fast Movement - Unearthed Arcana) +50 (Monk Fast Movement - PHB) +10 (Fleet of Foot [ignoring racial req] - Players Guide to Faerun) +5 (Dash feat - Song and Silence) = 175 feet per round, base movement speed +30 (Expeditious Retreat spell - PHB) = 205 feet per round, buffed up I'm sure there are more items and such, but yeah. EDIT: Took out Longstrider, Skate, and Burst because they are all enhancement bonuses and don't stack with Expeditious Retreat. I'm not totally sure that using the variant classes that grant Fast Movement is kosher. But 205 feet a round without running is most excellent. 205' per round is 116.5 mph/187.5 kph. Crazy. Numbers like that are the reason I asked about horizontal damage (http://boards1.wizards.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=283493).
Abulafia 08-09-04, 04:06 PM	Originally posted by Vapor IX +50 (Monk Fast Movement - PHB) [:] +30 (Expeditious Retreat spell - PHB) EDIT: Took out Longstrider, Skate, and Burst because they are all enhancement bonuses and don't stack with Expeditious Retreat. I'm not totally sure that using the variant classes that grant Fast Movement is kosher. But 205 feet a round without running is most excellent. Take out Expeditious Retreat too, or the Monk levels. Monk speed bonus is an enhancement bonus in 3.5
AlienFromBeyond 08-09-04, 04:10 PM	Originally posted by allenchan Can you use Rokugan? The Ninja class gives a speed bonus of Con bonus x 5, I think. It does indeed. It would be amusing to couple that with the new Deepwarden getting Con to AC...