Post/Author/DateTime	Post
Bopple 08-11-06, 03:43 AM	Creating a gnomish fighter competent against big folks. I am mainly looking for ways to boost climb skill. But other suggestions and recommendations are welcome.
Bopple 08-11-06, 08:12 AM	:bump: Spell, item, feat, or PrC? Anyone?
Lilt 08-11-06, 08:35 AM	You need to give us more information. What's your build so far? How have you increased your climb skill already?
Bopple 08-11-06, 11:28 AM	I am planning a gnome melee combatant. I haven't figured out anything other than an ordinary skill boost item(eg. +5 competence bonus). It's not done yet, but the build would be like this; Whisper Gnome Swb 3 / Ftr 4 / Stoneblessed(dwarf) 3 / Blade Bravo 10 WF(rapier) Dodge Titan Fighting(TF) Combat Expertise Robilar's Gambit(or Karmic Strike) Giantbane(GB) Underfoot Combat(UC) Confound The Big Folk TWF ITWF GTWF - Bonus Feat by Blade Bravo Combat Reflexes - Bonus Feat by Blade Bravo Goad - Bonus feat - Bonus Feat by Blade Bravo Weapon Finesse - Bonus Feat by Swashbuckler AC: 10 +item/magic +Dex +8(TF) +2/size difference against the medium, +1(Mobile Fighting) +X Combat Expertise, +4(UC)+4(GB) against the large or bigger(& a good side-effect) -or- Whisper Gnome Ftr 4 / Pal 4 / Rgr 3 / Stoneblessed(dwarf) 3 / Deepwarden 2 / XXX 4 Power Attack Improved Bull Rush Shock Trooper Leap Attack Iron Will Steadfast Determination Dodge Titan Fighting Giantbane Underfoot Combat Endurance - Bonus Feat by Ranger AC: 10 +item/magic +Con +8(TF) against the medium, +4(UC)+4(GB) against the large or bigger Divine Grace, Use Con for Will save -or- Whisper Gnome Ftr 18 / Rgr 1 / XXX 1 Power Attack Improved Bull Rush Shock Trooper Leap Attack Extra Favored Enemy *5 (if allowed) Favored Power Attack Favored Critical (if allowed) Improved Critical(any 20/x4 2h weapon) Dodge Titan Fighting Giantbane Underfoot Combat AC: 10 +item/magic +Dex +4(TF) against the medium, +4(UC)+4(GB) against the large or bigger Favored Enemy: Outsider(evil), Dragon, Human, Elf, & 2 others
Monsco 08-11-06, 01:04 PM	A simple masterwork climbing kit can help. also, the athletic feat. When your epic, then the epic climbing will do you good. if you have enough money, get silppers of spider climbing.
Fingers Boggis 08-11-06, 01:12 PM	I don't understand you have used Stoneblessed, am I missing something obvious? Check out the melee killer gnome thread thats pretty much the best gnome melee character about Fingers
Bopple 08-12-06, 12:49 AM	Stoneblessed(dwarf) is for; 1) additional +4 dodge bonus to AC, with Titan Fighting. 2) meeting prerequisite of Deepwarden.
PhaedrusXY 08-12-06, 01:09 AM	Here (http://boards1.wizards.com/showthread.php?t=633443) is the "other" thread Fingers mentioned.
Bopple 08-12-06, 02:01 AM	Climb aboard ability of Giantbane needs enough climb check against grapple check, if you want to stay aboard. I can tinker around builds. It's not hard for me(I have been using shadowcraft mage build long before Snow Savant post his Killer Gnome thread). But boosting climb skill is, because it has been an overlooked skill. It is ways to boost climb skill that I am looking for.
jstorrie 08-12-06, 04:55 AM	Stoneblessed's +4 AC vs giants is not the same bonus as gnome/dwarves' racial dodge bonus. If you're aiming to stack it with your racial +4 so that Titan Fighting gives you +8, well, that doesn't work.
Bopple 08-12-06, 05:45 AM	Actually, there is no such thing as "Racial Dodge Bonus". If you take it to the letter as such, Titan Fighting gives you nothing.
Bopple 08-12-06, 08:23 PM	:bump: Is there no other way to improve climb? Only climbing kit, custom skill magic item and Athletic feat? That's all? (slippers of spider climb does no good, since they don't boost climb skill itself)
PhaedrusXY 08-12-06, 08:36 PM	I was trying to post in here earlier, and I couldn't get to the boards for some reason... then I forgot... There are several "generic" skill boosting abilities that you could use, like the Marshal's aura (I forget which one), the Bard's Inspire Competence, etc. They won't all stack, but you might find some of them useful. Get yourself a Bard/Marshal cohort. You might look through the 100^10 challenge thread (http://boards1.wizards.com/showthread.php?t=441877), also. There are some crazy rules tweaks in there, and you might find something useful. I can't remember if anyone used Climb as their skill to take to 100 or not. Probably not... Edit: Heroism (Greater) provides a Morale bonus to skill checks.