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Grievous_Angel 01-06-07, 03:44 PM	Working on a TWF Monk for a campaign. Any WoTC Source is allowed, we're starting at level 5. I somehow managed to get clearance for a Voidmind Feral Half-Celestial Incarnate Construct Warforged (I'll share the background for the character if you're totally baffled). Homebrew rules gives us an extra bonus feat at level 1, and bonus feats on every odd level, rather than at 3,6,9 etc. Build I am working with is Cobra Strike Monk 2/Fighter 1/Barb (Bear Totem) 1/Shou 5/Thayan Gladiator 1/Initiate of the Draconic Mysteries 8/XX 2 Feats look like: Alerness (Voidmind) Combat Reflexes (Voidmind) Great Fortitude (Voidmind) Flaw (Frail) Flaw (Shaky) Deft Opportunist (B) TWF (B) Mnk1: Dodge (B), Combat Expertise (1st), Primary Contact (Bonus 1st - to enter Shou1 level earlier) Mnk2: Mobility (B) Mnk2/Ftr1: Weapon Focus: Unarmed (B), Monkey Grip (3rd) Mnk2/Ftr1/Brb1: Toughness Mnk2/Ftr1/Brb1/Shou1: S. Unarmed Strike (5th) Mnk2/Ftr1/Brb1/Shou2: I. Trip (B) Mnk2/Ftr1/Brb1/Shou3: ITWF (7th) Mnk2/Ftr1/Brb1/Shou4: Power Attack (B) Mnk2/Ftr1/Brb1/Shou5: ??? (9th) Mnk2/Ftr1/Brb1/Shou5/ThG1: INA Mnk2/Ftr1/Brb1/Shou5/ThG1/IoDM1: ??? (11th) Mnk2/Ftr1/Brb1/Shou5/ThG1/IoDM3: GTWF (13th) Mnk2/Ftr1/Brb1/Shou5/ThG1/IoDM5: Robilar's Gambit (15th) Mnk2/Ftr1/Brb1/Shou5/ThG1/IoDM7: ??? (17th) Mnk2/Ftr1/Brb1/Shou5/ThG1/IoDM8/XX1: ??? (19th) I realize that this is pretty sub-optimal, but am struggling as a novice to fully optimize my monk. Please feel free to offer alternate build suggestions as well. Regards, GA
Abulafia 01-06-07, 03:48 PM	I somehow managed to get clearance for a Voidmind Feral Half-Celestial Incarnate Construct Warforged :eek: I weep for your DM.
tiluvias99 01-06-07, 07:33 PM	Voidmind Feral Half-Celestial Incarnate Construct WarforgedVoidmind: +3 LA Feral: +1 LA Half-Celestial: +4 LA Incarnate Cobstruct: -2 LA So your eating up +6 LA. Good luck with that. If you want some monk builds, then check out mean_liar's thread. It's in my sig.
Edea 01-06-07, 07:35 PM	I think the OP means they're getting those without having to eat a level adjustment o_O. To which I say...damn.
Enamel_32 01-06-07, 07:43 PM	Incarnate construct lowers the construct's LA to a minimum of 0. As a warforged, you're already at LA+0.
Edea 01-06-07, 07:45 PM	Yeah, run that by your DM again and make sure you know what the level adjustment for that thing is in his campaign (because RAW you're going to be suffering).
Grievous_Angel 01-06-07, 08:57 PM	Alright moving along now. I am aware of the LA, thanks. Although I was under the impression that the HC template was only a +2 LA if taken at 1-2 HD (although we are starting the campaign at level 5, the backgrounds for each character have to explicitly take the character level by level from birth {level 0} to level 5, so I am assuming that I can use the lower LA). Please correct me if I am wrong. Anyway, the template was just stated to give you an idea of the cheese I am working with. I can always drop one or two things if it gets overboard, and I most likely will (if anything I will drop voidmind). Two bonus feats from flaws, one extra bonus feat at level 1, extra feats at every odd level above that. I will definitely be taking the Feral template unless someone can somehow convince me why that would be a bad idea, so I should have Pounce as a special attack. I would like to ideally combine this with as full of a TWF chain, monk size/damage increase as possible. Some build/feat assistance? Edit: Yeah, I wouldn't have posted if I hadn't already read through every page of mean_liar's thread, as well as pretty much every other significant monk thread that I could find on the board. I've seen enough scorn for posters who don't read the important threads that I know better. :) Second Edit: Yes, I definitely will be dropping Voidmind. Was without all my books when I wrote out the build. Crystalkeep lists it as a +1 LA for some reason.