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RadicalTaoist 05-23-05, 12:38 PM	Sing to the tune of Little Deuce Coupe, by the Beach Boys Now I ain't braggin' now, so don't put me down But I think I've caught the strongest Warforged barb to be found When it comes to maxed out AC he's really standing tall No, that -2 I get from Rage won't matter at all Yeah it's my Little Stone 'Forged little Stone 'Forged, you don't know what I got my little stone 'forged you don't know what I got Class Level - feats Warforged Fighter 1 - Mithral Body Barbarian 1 Stoneblessed 1 - Endurance Stoneblessed 2 Stoneblessed 3 Barbarian 2 - Mithral Fluidity Barbarian 3 Deepwarden 1 - Track Deepwarden 2 - Mithral Fluidity Warforged Fighter 2 - Mithral Fluidity Fighter 3 Fighter 4 - Mithral Fluidity, Power Attack Barbarian 4 Barbarian 5 Barbarian 6 - Mithral Fluidity Barbarian 7 Barbarian 8 Barbarian 9 - Mithral Fluidity Barbarian 10 Barbarian 11 Yep, those are the WF Fighter racial sub levels from Eberron Now this trick runs off basic Warden abuse Get the Con added to AC and then let it run loose But don't forget the feat upping Max Dex to AC Thank God (and Wizards too!) for Mithral Fluidity Yeah it's my Little Stone 'Forged little Stone 'Forged, you don't know what I got my little stone 'forged you don't know what I got Con score breakdown At level 8: base 18 + 2 racial + 2 levels + 2 stoneblessed + 4 rage + 4 bear's endurance or amulet of health = 30, modifier + 10 At level 20: base 18 + 2 racial + 2 stoneblessed + 5 levels + 5 tome + 6 rage + 6 amulet of health = 44, modifier +17 Now of course he's got his HP maxed up the wazoo And Power Attack lets him do decent damage too He's so destructive with a greatsword in hand And he won't deal nothing but big hits, daddy minimum AC breakdown At level 20: Max Dex (Con) mod to AC is 17 10 base + 10 enchanted armor + 17 Con (while raging) - 2 raging = 35 This is before Rings of Protection, animated shields, barkskin spells, and all that good stuff. Now if all that wasn't enough to make you say "gosh!", All that Con goes to his touch AC, and Uncanny Dodge Means he can't be flanked, surprised, or nothin' silly like that It's enough to make your average Rogue go and eat his hat Yeah it's my Little Stone 'Forged little Stone 'Forged, you don't know what I got my little stone 'forged you don't know what I got Yeah it's my Little Stone 'Forged little Stone 'Forged, you don't know what I got my little stone 'forged you don't know what I got
carnivore 05-23-05, 12:43 PM	:clap: :rofl: :rofl: nicely done RT :D
geekpocket 05-23-05, 01:34 PM	nice. +2 for the beach boys cover.
cvazi 05-23-05, 02:09 PM	it is soo beautiful :weep: *YOINK!*
Tweedledope 05-23-05, 03:04 PM	Too bad you couldn't squeeze any levels of Frenzied Berzerker in there. I've just discovered how cheap it is to have a Warforged Barbarian/Frenzied Berzerker...immunity to subdual damage (via Warforged Juggernaut or a feat) and immunity to fatigue...snap.
Jeremymc 05-23-05, 04:31 PM	Actually you don't really need the Max Dex to AC unless the DM specifically makes a house rule that Con is limited by Max Dex rules. According to the rules, and to Custserv, the game itself has no built-in limit to the Con modifier.
Tempest Stormwind 05-23-05, 10:47 PM	That is BEAUTIFUL! Of course, if you want something with a bit more bite to it than the Beach Boys for the musical cover, I might suggest Stone Cold (http://www.darklyrics.com/lyrics/hammerfall/glorytothebrave.html#7) by Hammerfall. :D That said, I agree with Jeremy here: You can free up the Mithral Fluidity stunt a fair bit because there's no inherent limit on your Con bonus. I think this is lame, but I can't argue with the rules on this forum (I'd houserule it myself were I running the game, but for the purposes of this forum, RAW is gospel). So: sung to the tune of "What do you do with a drunken sailor?" What do we do with the Stoneforged Rager? (assuming you'll pardon the unofficial dubbing, in both senses of the word.)
Antendren 05-24-05, 12:24 AM	Maybe I'm missing something, but in my copy of the ECS, Mithral Fluidity only increases max dex by 1. So you'd only have 11 max dex. Whether or not that matters is a question I'll stay out of.
RadicalTaoist 05-24-05, 11:18 AM	That is BEAUTIFUL! Of course, if you want something with a bit more bite to it than the Beach Boys for the musical cover, I might suggest Stone Cold (http://www.darklyrics.com/lyrics/hammerfall/glorytothebrave.html#7) by Hammerfall. :D That said, I agree with Jeremy here: You can free up the Mithral Fluidity stunt a fair bit because there's no inherent limit on your Con bonus. I think this is lame, but I can't argue with the rules on this forum (I'd houserule it myself were I running the game, but for the purposes of this forum, RAW is gospel). So: sung to the tune of "What do you do with a drunken sailor?" What do we do with the Stoneforged Rager? (assuming you'll pardon the unofficial dubbing, in both senses of the word.)Earl-ay in the morning! Well, if JMC and Antendren are right, then I'm stupid :( but it's still a strong build. Kick out the MFs for, say, Great Cleave, Combat Brute, and Shock Trooper. Or perhaps Elusive Target and Defensive Throw. The best Stonewarden AC abuse remains the RoD Mongrelfolk Monk15/SBlessed3/DWarden2. The best part is how it cuts down nicely on Monk MAD. You can still get full Monk damage, speed, and AC with a monk's belt.