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moglyxin

12-11-06, 11:41 AM
name: Shamil Sparcklegem
race: Gnome
classes: bard 3

str - 10 +0
dex - 16 +3
cons - 14 +2
int - 17 +3
wis - 15 +2
cha - 18 +4

A.C - 18 ( 10 + 4[armor] +3[dex] +1[size] )

speed: 20fts

Fort 3 - 1 - 2
Ref 6 - 3 - 3
Will 5 - 3 - 2

BaB - +2
Shortsword +4 / 1d6, crit 19~20 x2
Light Crossbow +7 / 1d6, crit 19~20 x2

Skills:
apraise, balance, bluff, climb, concentration, craft, decipher script, diplomacy, disguise, escape artist, gather information, hide, jump, knowledge ( history and

others ), listen, move silently, perform, profession, sense motive, sleight of hand, speak language, spellcraft, swim, tumble, use magical device.
1°-> 6+int x4 ( 37 )
2° pra frente 6+int ( 10 )

balance
bluff 6 + 4 = 10
concentration 6 + 2 = 8
decipher script
diplomacy
disguise
escape artist 6 + 3 = 9
gather information 6 + 4 = 10
hide 6 + 3 + 4[racial bonus] = 13
knowledge ( history ) 5 + 3 = 8
knowledge ( arcana ) 6 + 3 = 9
listen 4 + 2 = 6
move silently
perform 6 + 4 + 2[skill focus] +2[lute] = 14
sense motive
sleight of hand
spellcraft 6 + 3 = 9
tumble

Bard:
1°->Bardic Music, Bardic Knowledge, countersong, fascinate, inspire courage +1
3°->inspire competence

Gnome:
+2 cons, -2 str
small ( +1 size bonus pra CA, +1 size bonus pro atk, +4 bonus to hide checks )
speed 20fts
low light vision
+2 in saves against ilusion
+1 in dc´s of ilusion magics
+1 nos atks against kobolds and goblinoides
+4 dodge bonus against giant
+2 listen
+2 craft ( alchemy )
spell like abilities:
1/day -> speak with animals, dancing lights, ghost sound, prestidigitation

Spells per day / know
0 - 3 / 6
1 - 2 / 3

0th:
Songbird
Detect Magic
Light
Mage Hand
lullaby
ghost sound

1st:
Disguise Self
Charm Person
Cure Light Wounds


Feats:

1°-> skill focus ( perform [lute] ) ( +2 in perform checks when using a lute )
3°-> ancestral relic ( lute )

Itens:
Masterwork Shortsword (310 gp)
Masterwork Light crossbow (335 gp)
Masterwork chainshirt (200 gp)
Horn (for Inspire Courage) (5 gp)
Component Pouch (5 gp)
Backpack – 10 Rations, Waterskin, Bedroll, Tent, Flint & Steel (19 gp)
Hooded Lantern, 5 flasks of oil (7 gp)
20 cold iron bolts, 20 silver bolts, 60 bolts (38 gp)
22 Bane bolts - 8 human, 4 evil outsider, 6 dragon, 4 elf (880 gp)
Disguise Kit (50 gp) ( +2 in disguise checks )
3 torch´s (3 cp)
explorer´s outfit (30 gp)
masterwork lute (200 gp) ( +2 in perform checks using a lute )
921 gp

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name: Shamil Sparcklegem
race: Gnome
classes: bard 10 / seeker of the song 10

str - 10 +0
dex - 22 +6
cons - 18 +4
int - 17 +3
wis - 15 +2
cha - 34 +12

A.C - 32 ( 10 + 10[armor] +6[dex] +1[size] +5[deflection] )

speed: 20fts

Fort 15 - 6 - 4 +5
Ref 21 - 10 - 6 +5
Will 21 - 14 - 2 +5

BaB +14/+9/+4

feats:
1°-> skill focus ( perform[lute])
3°-> ancestral relic ( lute )
6°-> ???????
9°-> ???????
12°-> ??????
15°-> ??????
18°-> ??????

Bard:
bardic music
bardic knowledge
countersong
fascinate
inspire courage +2
inspire competence
inspire greatness
suggestion

spells per day / know
0 - 3 / 6
1 - 3 / 4
2 - 3 / 4
3 - 2 / 4
4 - 0 / 2

Seeker of the song:
rapture the song ( +2 AC, +2 saves, DR 2/-, freedom of movement )
seeker music
combine songs
subvocalize

seeker music´s:
- burning melody
- song of unmaking
- dirge of frozen loss
- song of life
- anthem of thunder and pain
- hymn of spelldeath
- ballad of agony reborn
- aria of everywhere
- dirge of songdeath
- hymn of revealing

Itens: ( 760.000 )
- Masterwork lute ( ancestral relic )
- Masterwork horn

- +5 celestial armor ( +5 chainmail / max dex +8 / check penalty -2 / fly )
- amulet of health +4
- cloack of charisma +6
- vestiments of resistance +5
- gloves of dexterity +6
- bracers of archery, greater ]
- boots of striding and springing
- tome of charisma +5
- ring of protection +5
- ring of universal elemental resistance, minor ( 15 to acid, eletricity, sonic, fire, cold )

- rapier of puncturin ( +3 rapier / 3x per day 1d6 cons )
- oathbow ( composite might[+4] shorbow version )



well... this is the same bard... lvl 3 and lvl 20...
any modification / optimization is welcome...
so ... help?
=D

thanks to all
Timlagor

12-11-06, 12:43 PM
get the Swift Spell that boosts Inspire Courage.
Is Skill Focus a requirement for Seeker? (otherwise drop it)
Kamikaze Chicken

12-11-06, 01:13 PM
I agree with the idea of dropping skill focus if it isnt necesary.

ALso you can look at the nasty little trick i postedon the boards called "hereal jack of all trades' in it i describe a simple way for bards to do everything skills wise.
cheers.

KAMIKAZE! :chicken:
moglyxin

12-11-06, 09:57 PM
hmm... i take a little look in the others threads about bard...
but is too many multiclass...

bard / fighter / seeker of the song / bladesinger / eldritch knight / spellblade
( its a exemple xD )

and i dont like this... i like good and simple builds... with a weak point and a strong point... simple, strong ( in her area ) and cool to play with

this is what i want
=D


thanks to all again
^^
Ikeren

12-11-06, 10:06 PM
Be a forest gnome. There's just no reason not to.

Forest Gnome Traits (Ex): These traits are in addition to the rock gnome traits, except where noted.
-Pass without Trace (Su): A forest gnome has the innate ability to use pass without trace (self only, as a free action) as the spell cast by a druid of the forest gnome’s class levels.
- +1 racial bonus on attack rolls against kobolds, goblinoids, orcs, and reptilian humanoids. Authors note: This turns into a +2 racial bonus against kobolds and goblinoids, since it stacks with the standard rock gnome traits.
-Automatic Languages: Gnome, Elven, Sylvan, and a simple language that enables them to communicate on a very basic level with forest animals (this replaces the rock gnome’s speak with animals ability). Bonus Languages: Common, Draconic, Dwarven, Giant, Goblin, Orc. This trait replaces the rock gnome’s automatic and bonus languages.
- +4 racial bonus on Hide checks, which improves to +8 in a wooded area.

I mean, look at all that sweet stuff you get. For adding "forest" to your name.
moglyxin

12-11-06, 10:29 PM
hmm ikeren...
nice add ..
in what book can i find this forest gnome?

remember... i play eberron...
start at 3°lvl
=)
moglyxin

12-11-06, 10:46 PM
any more people to help me?
*_*
The_Mad_Linguist

12-11-06, 11:22 PM
Well, it would be easier to read if your line of dashes didn't stretch the tables.


I thought skill focus usually gave a +3 instead of +2. Am I missing something?
moglyxin

12-12-06, 10:33 AM
+3?
hmm... ill see this... thank u