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kaiza 01-20-06, 07:24 PM	I am very fascinated by the Elocater PrC, but I don't know how to make something good out of it. I think an Elocator-based character should be a spring/sneak attacker, so I thought something like Psychic Rogue1/Ninja3/Something7/Elocater9. Or more Psychic Rogue levels. The point is that the Elocator won't give us any Sneak Attack improvement, thus we have to max it out before entering the PrC. BUT it improves the manifester level. The Psychic Rogue is very weak in SA, though. So I thought something like Rogue 1-2 / Ninja 3 / Psychic Warrior 1-2 / Some Sneak Attacker 5 / Elocater 9. This would give us at least +6d6 SA, but we would advance as a manifester just up to PsyWar 8 or 9, which is almost useless. Better than nothing, but worse than something else. So my question is: how could we get something out of the Elocater? Thanks k.
Bonzai 01-21-06, 12:09 PM	I toyed with the idea of a scout/elocator. You get that extra 5 foot step, so you could in theory take two 5ft steps, and skirmish. I also thought of a psychic rogue/elocator type, more for rp reasons. He's a rogue no walls can keep out, no traps can bar, nor defenses can repel.
Eital 01-21-06, 01:27 PM	Right now, i'm playing the "fixed" soulknife made by BlaineTog, and my DM let me modify the class: out the manifester levels and instead stack those elocater levels with my soulknife levels to determine my mindblade bonus... add mindblade kensai to the mix, and you've got full "mindblade progression" and a very cool elocater/soulknife :D. He also replaced a few abilities: Dimension step: allows the use of dimension door 1/day as a psi-like hability Transporter: Teleport or plane shift as a psi-like hability 1/day (only one of the two powers per day), and another use of dimension door per day. I'm already 6th level and i can assure you it's not broken, and it's very fun to play with. BTW: BlaineTog's fix: http://boards1.wizards.com/showthread.php?t=310984
kaiza 01-22-06, 08:51 AM	Thanks to the advice, I've come up with a couple of builds. The first one is Skirmish-based, while the second one Sneak Attack-based. Both are melee builds. Didn't care about XP penalties. 1) Swashbuckler 3 / Scout 3 / Highland Stalker 4 / Psion 1 / Elocater 9 Relevant stats INT and DEX. BAB +15, Insightful Strike and Skirmish +2d6 +2AC; 4th lv Psion powers. Or we can swap Psion 1 with PsyWar 1 to have BAB +16. 2) Ninja 3 / Psychic Rogue 7 / Some Sneak Attacker 1 (to have +1d6 SA) / Elocater 9. Supposed BAB +13, +6d6 SA, Ghost Step, 4th lv Psychic Rogue powers. These are FAR from being powerful builds, but it's the best way I've come up to optimise the Elocater PrC. Any comments/suggestions? Thank you k.