Absolute unmounted charger (520 PF per hit) [Archive] - Wizards Community

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Laelenie

01-23-04, 08:09 AM
Half -Orc
Samurai 1/ Barbarian1/Figther4/Frenzied Berserker10/Ronin 2/Exotic Weapon Master 1


Samurai Exotic Weapon Prof. Weapon Focus
Barbarian
Figther Destructive Rage Power Attack
Figther Cleave
Figther
Figther Dodge Intimidating Rage
Frenzied
Frenzied
Frenzied Headlong rush
Frenzied
Frenzied
Ronin Shock Trooper
Ronin
Exotic Weapon Master Uncanny blow
Psichic Warrior Psichic Charge Combat reflexes
Frenzied
Frenzied
Frenzied Karmic Strike
Frenzied
Frenzied


Possession
Tome of str +5
belt of magnificence +6
+ 5 berserker valorous wrathful healing adamantine bastard sword

Starting strenght 18
+2 (racial)
+4 (rage)
+10 (greater frenzy)
+5 (levels)
+5 (tome)
+6 (enchantment)

total 50 (+20)

charging with headless charge and banzai charge -19 to ac and -19 to ac

damage (charging wielding a bastard sword two-handed)

1d10 (bastard sword)
+19 (banzai charge)
+76 (power attack)
+40 (uncanny blow strenght bonus)
+7 weapon bonus (+5 berserker weapon)
+2 weapon spec

TOTAL 1d10+144

(1d10+184 )*3(headlong rush-valorous)=495 minimum - 520 max

and you heal 250 PF each time you hit

AND THIS IS EVERY ROUND ! and you don' have to worry about damage reduction...

Tactics:

Charge. Ouch.
if the critter is still alive... well leave the area and charge again.. if he hits you with the AoO (cause you're leaving his threatened area) retaliate with karmic strike (and regain HPs) and then punish him with another charge (making squares with psionic charge)

your ac is -28 of course but who cares ?
you can't die for HPs as long as you are in frenzy...and you regain large amounts of HP by attacking
:smirk:

attack bonus is

19 (bab)
+20 (str)
+7 (weapon)
+2 (charge)
+1(weapon focus)

+49 hitting everything in the MM with a 2:behold:

I'm GREEN , I'M BAD, I HIT HARD and don't care about your hitting ME. AND I make 90° turns like Automan's car...
Sisyfos

01-23-04, 08:17 AM
Now you need to give it the ability to charge when flying...
JoostBuijs

01-23-04, 08:22 AM
19 (bab)

I do believe you did a full power attack on BaB.
Makes it only +30 to hit.

I might take a knockback weapon ..


Charge -> Knock back -> Charge -> Knock back

:D
Laelenie

01-23-04, 08:30 AM
Originally posted by JoostBuijs
I do believe you did a full power attack on BaB.
Makes it only +30 to hit.

I might take a knockback weapon ..


Charge -> Knock back -> Charge -> Knock back

:D

no joot, I'm using headless charge from shock trooper wich lets you substitute attack penalty of power atacck with AC penalty...

in fact I have 10 -38= -28 AC and we arew non in 2nd edition...
JoostBuijs

01-23-04, 08:32 AM
Ahhh cool :)


ohh btw from which books is this all?

I believe most is from Complete warrior ? I don't have it right here :(
Sisyfos

01-23-04, 08:33 AM
Originally posted by Laelenie
no joot, I'm using headless charge from shock trooper wich lets you substitute attack penalty of power atacck with AC penalty...

in fact I have 10 -38= -28 AC and we arew non in 2nd edition...

Hmm... how did you use it twice? The other one was "banzai charge"? But can you use PA twice in same attack even if you have two feats for it?
Laelenie

01-23-04, 08:35 AM
banzai charge DO NOT speak about power attack is just ANOTHER ABILITY...
Sisyfos

01-23-04, 08:38 AM
I DON'T KNOW AS I DO NOT KNOW WHERE THE FEAT IS FROM! OK?!

SISYFOS

PS. Ah, found my cAPSlOCK-key.
Laelenie

01-23-04, 08:39 AM
It is RONIN level 2 ability and it is in the Complete Warrior.

And my caps were not meant to be offensive, Sys, just to make the text emphasized. Sorry if it did bother you.




...i'm tring to fit in power lunge maybe in exchange with uncanny blow but I can't find a feat granting Prc
Bond, James Bond

01-23-04, 08:54 AM
nice build.

however, do take human instead of half-orc if you actually plan to play one from lowever levels on, otherwise youŽll be having a 20% xp penalty from lvl 5 on.
Sisyfos

01-23-04, 08:58 AM
Originally posted by Laelenie
It is RONIN level 2 ability and it is in the Complete Warrior.

And my caps were not meant to be offensive, Sys, just to make the text emphasized. Sorry if it did bother you.


Nah, I am just in bad mood I guess. Nothing personal. Nice build. Be a human as James Bond suggested.

Sisyfos
Funny Slaughter

01-23-04, 09:08 AM
as a human you miss headlong rush, not a bad feat.

i would consider to go with a real orc, half-orcs are just plain bad. and arrange your classes so that you dont take XP-penalties.

with only two fighter and more barbarian you lose just a feat.

gs
Funny
Namarus

01-23-04, 09:32 AM
It's fighter btw, not figther.

Very nice build.
Laelenie

01-23-04, 09:45 AM
huh... that feat loss really hurts... someone can make it without losing a feat ?

yeah fighter... I should type more slowly...
Funny Slaughter

01-23-04, 10:28 AM
lets see, whats the target?

ronin2 for banzai charge
exotic weapon master1 for the uncanny blow
frenzied berserkerX for maximum PA

i dont like the alignment-change, but since its kind of a requirement of ronin i will let it pass.

mountain orc
(an interesting twitch would be to take orog. +2ECL, but a bonus to charisma, would make the classic HL/FB-combo very viable)

samurai1 EWP, WF
fighter1 PA
barbarian1 intim. rage
fighter2 cleave
barb2
psychic warrior1 destr. rage, speed of thought
psyw2 psionic charge

the order of PrCs is now up to you.

btw, psionic charge has speed of thought as prerequisite, you missed this in your initial build

gs
Funny
Eisgowen

01-23-04, 01:03 PM
Now io know its "non" mounted...but how about swithing your race to lets say a Wemic or Centuar and pick of the feat Spirited charge )
CompleteSatori

01-23-04, 01:34 PM
Guys, where is Wrathful Healing as a weapon enchantment?

Need to know!!!
newblar32

01-23-04, 06:55 PM
Hate to burst your bubble but you need the Improved Bullrush feat in order to take Shock Trooper
Kenkai

01-23-04, 08:08 PM
wrathful healing is from enemies and allies. (yes its an official WoTC DnD book)
Psifon

01-24-04, 01:54 AM
Page 20 of that book.

And yes, the game designers were on crack when they put that one in print.
BenjCano

01-24-04, 02:47 AM
Don't be too sure they were on crack. I've had that book a year and a half now, and I never noticed that sidebar until I read these postings.

By the way, it's not really optimized if you're taking a 20% XP hit from level 5 on.
Psifon

01-24-04, 10:11 AM
Originally posted by BenjCano
Don't be too sure they were on crack. I've had that book a year and a half now, and I never noticed that sidebar until I read these postings.



So what you are saying is that if they make a rule hard to notice, it's somehow less broken?
VirgilCaine

01-24-04, 12:13 PM
Now you need to give it the ability to charge when flying...

You already can...
horndgod

01-24-04, 01:47 PM
You might want to change your weapon to include Viscious. You do an additional 2d6 damage but then take 1d6.
BenjCano

01-24-04, 02:54 PM
Originally posted by Psifon
So what you are saying is that if they make a rule hard to notice, it's somehow less broken?

Yes. Because you can't twink what nobody notices.
Psifon

01-26-04, 02:04 AM
You are joking right?

I mean, you do know that you are dealing with GAMERS here don't you?

I mean, combing throgh the rules to twink out a character is what we live for right?
BenjCano

01-26-04, 02:28 AM
Nah. If I was joking, I would have said....a Druid and a Tiefling walk into an inn...