Abusive Metamagic Cleric? [Archive] - Wizards Community

Abusive Metamagic Cleric? [Archive] - Wizards Community

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NateNate
11-07-04, 07:42 PM I've been working on a Cleric build for a game I'm in, and after looking through my MoF, I've decided to use the following build:

Human worshipper of Oghma
1. Fighter 1, Dodge, Iron Will, Endurance
2. Fighter 2, Mobility
3. Cleric 1, Combat Casting, Travel domain, Luck domain
4. Cleric 2
5. Cleric 3
6. Cleric 4, Extend Spell
7. Mystic Wanderer 1, put max class-skill ranks in Perform (Dance)
8. Spelldancer 1
9. Spelldancer 2, Spell Focus: Conjuration
10. Nar Demonbinder 1
11. Incantrix 1, Persistent Spell, prohibited school: Illusion
12. Incantrix 2, Divine Metamagic: Persistent Spell
13. Incantrix 3
14. Incantrix 4
15. Incantrix 5, Practiced Spellcaster, Maximize or Quicken Spell
16. Incantrix 6
17. Incantrix 7
18. Incantrix 8, Extra Turning
19. Incantrix 9
20. Incantrix 10, Maximize or Quicken Spell

Incantrix spellcasting will be applied to Cleric, since its "+1 level of existing class". After looking over the many overlapping PrC requirements, I noticed that it could grab one level of Dragon Slayer as soon as it has a +5 BAB. It goes unarmored and will certainly wear a Monk's Belt and Bracers of Armor, with whatever martial weapons it wants to use.

The build has 9th level spells at max caster level by level 20, so its epic-ready. Plus it can take level 21 in Dragon Slayer and pick Improved Spell Capacity to have two level 10 spells per day, without a loss of caster level.

Suggestions? Nay-sayers to shoot me down?
scrollreader
11-07-04, 07:50 PM No dice. Incantrix requires the ability to 'cast 3rd level arcane spells'. All your ND spells are 4th and higher. The single exception I can think of is, possibly, extra slot, to give yourself a slot at level 3, for arcane spells (but even then, you won't actually be able to cast any 3rd level arcane spells, and hence still won't meet the pre-reqs).

So no. Nice try, but no dice.
Qaetar
11-07-04, 10:49 PM Only take one level of Fighter, so you can take Nar Demonbinder at level 9. Take Arcane Preparation at the same time.

Be either Vile or Exalted. Prepare a third level Vile or Exalted spell.

Otherwise, you could convince your DM to allow Extra Spell to allow you to learn a 3rd level spell from off the ND list.

Standard manner of getting 1st, 2nd, 3rd levels pells from Nar Demonbinder.

You're probably left with a nasty Feat crunch. You'll have to compensate with Flaws from UA if allowed. Weak-Willed and possibly Shaky are the more common choices.

(Qaetar)
scrollreader
11-07-04, 11:15 PM DOH! :banghead:
I forgot Vile Spells.

Nice catch, Qaeter. ;)

But yeah. Your life will be painfully featless. Why do you want to do this?
NateNate
11-07-04, 11:25 PM I just thought the idea of a divine Incantrix was awesome. I probably won't go with it now that it won't work like I thought it would. For some reason I thought requirements were more like "this level spells or higher" but I guess not.

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NateNate 11-07-04, 07:42 PM	I've been working on a Cleric build for a game I'm in, and after looking through my MoF, I've decided to use the following build: Human worshipper of Oghma 1. Fighter 1, Dodge, Iron Will, Endurance 2. Fighter 2, Mobility 3. Cleric 1, Combat Casting, Travel domain, Luck domain 4. Cleric 2 5. Cleric 3 6. Cleric 4, Extend Spell 7. Mystic Wanderer 1, put max class-skill ranks in Perform (Dance) 8. Spelldancer 1 9. Spelldancer 2, Spell Focus: Conjuration 10. Nar Demonbinder 1 11. Incantrix 1, Persistent Spell, prohibited school: Illusion 12. Incantrix 2, Divine Metamagic: Persistent Spell 13. Incantrix 3 14. Incantrix 4 15. Incantrix 5, Practiced Spellcaster, Maximize or Quicken Spell 16. Incantrix 6 17. Incantrix 7 18. Incantrix 8, Extra Turning 19. Incantrix 9 20. Incantrix 10, Maximize or Quicken Spell Incantrix spellcasting will be applied to Cleric, since its "+1 level of existing class". After looking over the many overlapping PrC requirements, I noticed that it could grab one level of Dragon Slayer as soon as it has a +5 BAB. It goes unarmored and will certainly wear a Monk's Belt and Bracers of Armor, with whatever martial weapons it wants to use. The build has 9th level spells at max caster level by level 20, so its epic-ready. Plus it can take level 21 in Dragon Slayer and pick Improved Spell Capacity to have two level 10 spells per day, without a loss of caster level. Suggestions? Nay-sayers to shoot me down?
scrollreader 11-07-04, 07:50 PM	No dice. Incantrix requires the ability to 'cast 3rd level arcane spells'. All your ND spells are 4th and higher. The single exception I can think of is, possibly, extra slot, to give yourself a slot at level 3, for arcane spells (but even then, you won't actually be able to cast any 3rd level arcane spells, and hence still won't meet the pre-reqs). So no. Nice try, but no dice.
Qaetar 11-07-04, 10:49 PM	Only take one level of Fighter, so you can take Nar Demonbinder at level 9. Take Arcane Preparation at the same time. Be either Vile or Exalted. Prepare a third level Vile or Exalted spell. Otherwise, you could convince your DM to allow Extra Spell to allow you to learn a 3rd level spell from off the ND list. Standard manner of getting 1st, 2nd, 3rd levels pells from Nar Demonbinder. You're probably left with a nasty Feat crunch. You'll have to compensate with Flaws from UA if allowed. Weak-Willed and possibly Shaky are the more common choices. (Qaetar)
scrollreader 11-07-04, 11:15 PM	DOH! :banghead: I forgot Vile Spells. Nice catch, Qaeter. ;) But yeah. Your life will be painfully featless. Why do you want to do this?
NateNate 11-07-04, 11:25 PM	I just thought the idea of a divine Incantrix was awesome. I probably won't go with it now that it won't work like I thought it would. For some reason I thought requirements were more like "this level spells or higher" but I guess not.