adding CHA to AC [Archive] - Wizards Community

adding CHA to AC [Archive] - Wizards Community

Post/Author/DateTime Post
FenrisNorth
04-03-04, 05:16 PM I play a paladin, so I am wondering if I can squeeze just a little bit more usefulness out of my already overworked CHA bonus, I want to find a way to add my CHA bonus to my armor class, but the only way I can think of is to turn into a nymph, but I am not willing to give up my elfhood, an integral part of the character concept
LordShade
04-03-04, 05:21 PM Arcane Duelist grants Cha to AC. However, it requires some cross class skills and the ability to cast arcane spells as a prereq.
FenrisNorth
04-03-04, 05:33 PM Dang and blast, I was hoping to get it without resorting to losing my paladinhood, which I don't know is worth the ac
LordShade
04-03-04, 05:51 PM You could always pick up Arcane Duelist and then go into a paladinly PrC, like Fist of Raziel or Hospitaler.
jensun
04-03-04, 06:03 PM You can use the Divine Shield feat, it adds your Cha bonus to AC as a sacred bonus.
Sensei Gith
04-03-04, 06:34 PM Mystic Wanderer.
LordShade
04-03-04, 06:42 PM MW = any chaotic, paladin = lawful good.
iN.fuSioN
04-03-04, 07:00 PM Some fey have CHA to ac and saves. But since your character is already made there is not much you can do... Mystic Wanderer gets Cha to ac but you can't use armor, if i'm not mistaken.
FenrisNorth
04-03-04, 07:43 PM well there is always the rituals of transformation out of savage species.....
Sensei Gith
04-03-04, 11:54 PM If your DM doesn't mind, you could change your alignment to qualify for MW, change it back after level one, and get an atonement spell cast on you. That probably qualifies as rampant abuse, though.
ZenRanger
04-04-04, 04:56 PM quick question, where can the divine shield feat be found?
jensun
04-04-04, 06:53 PM Defenders of the Faith initially but updated in Complete Warrior.
Khalon
04-05-04, 09:10 PM So where do you find the PrC's that give Cha to Ac?

And would not theese PrC's be great for Sorc's?

Any thoughts?
ATT_Turan
04-05-04, 10:31 PM Originally posted by Khalon
So where do you find the PrC's that give Cha to Ac?

And would not theese PrC's be great for Sorc's?

Any thoughts?

A) Arcane Trickster is in Tome and Blood and the 3.5 Dungeon Master's Guide.

B) Mystic Wanderer is in Magic of Faerun.

A-1) Yes, if you don't mind diluting yourself a little bit...you'll need to take a few levels in Rogue to qualify for the Arcane Trickster, which does give you some decent abilities.

B-1) Not particularly, since it's a divine magic-based class...which is fine if you're wanting a sorc+cleric/favored soul/druid/whatever, but as a pure arcane caster you can't take it.
Richmud
04-05-04, 10:43 PM You could die and rise as a ghost it would give you cha to ac and ghosts are one of the few undeads with no alignment restrictions

Of course then fighting will be a lot harder and turn undead would probably be bad for you to use
Gerdreg
04-06-04, 07:30 AM Mind Spy from CW, has tuff requirements for a Pally though.

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
FenrisNorth 04-03-04, 05:16 PM	I play a paladin, so I am wondering if I can squeeze just a little bit more usefulness out of my already overworked CHA bonus, I want to find a way to add my CHA bonus to my armor class, but the only way I can think of is to turn into a nymph, but I am not willing to give up my elfhood, an integral part of the character concept
LordShade 04-03-04, 05:21 PM	Arcane Duelist grants Cha to AC. However, it requires some cross class skills and the ability to cast arcane spells as a prereq.
FenrisNorth 04-03-04, 05:33 PM	Dang and blast, I was hoping to get it without resorting to losing my paladinhood, which I don't know is worth the ac
LordShade 04-03-04, 05:51 PM	You could always pick up Arcane Duelist and then go into a paladinly PrC, like Fist of Raziel or Hospitaler.
jensun 04-03-04, 06:03 PM	You can use the Divine Shield feat, it adds your Cha bonus to AC as a sacred bonus.
Sensei Gith 04-03-04, 06:34 PM	Mystic Wanderer.
LordShade 04-03-04, 06:42 PM	MW = any chaotic, paladin = lawful good.
iN.fuSioN 04-03-04, 07:00 PM	Some fey have CHA to ac and saves. But since your character is already made there is not much you can do... Mystic Wanderer gets Cha to ac but you can't use armor, if i'm not mistaken.
FenrisNorth 04-03-04, 07:43 PM	well there is always the rituals of transformation out of savage species.....
Sensei Gith 04-03-04, 11:54 PM	If your DM doesn't mind, you could change your alignment to qualify for MW, change it back after level one, and get an atonement spell cast on you. That probably qualifies as rampant abuse, though.
ZenRanger 04-04-04, 04:56 PM	quick question, where can the divine shield feat be found?
jensun 04-04-04, 06:53 PM	Defenders of the Faith initially but updated in Complete Warrior.
Khalon 04-05-04, 09:10 PM	So where do you find the PrC's that give Cha to Ac? And would not theese PrC's be great for Sorc's? Any thoughts?
ATT_Turan 04-05-04, 10:31 PM	Originally posted by Khalon So where do you find the PrC's that give Cha to Ac? And would not theese PrC's be great for Sorc's? Any thoughts? A) Arcane Trickster is in Tome and Blood and the 3.5 Dungeon Master's Guide. B) Mystic Wanderer is in Magic of Faerun. A-1) Yes, if you don't mind diluting yourself a little bit...you'll need to take a few levels in Rogue to qualify for the Arcane Trickster, which does give you some decent abilities. B-1) Not particularly, since it's a divine magic-based class...which is fine if you're wanting a sorc+cleric/favored soul/druid/whatever, but as a pure arcane caster you can't take it.
Richmud 04-05-04, 10:43 PM	You could die and rise as a ghost it would give you cha to ac and ghosts are one of the few undeads with no alignment restrictions Of course then fighting will be a lot harder and turn undead would probably be bad for you to use
Gerdreg 04-06-04, 07:30 AM	Mind Spy from CW, has tuff requirements for a Pally though.