Advice Building a Better Shadowcraft Fochlucan Lyrist. [Archive] - Wizards Community

Advice Building a Better Shadowcraft Fochlucan Lyrist. [Archive] - Wizards Community

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interpretivechaos
02-03-07, 11:11 PM I wanted to build a shadowcraft mage that could also serve as the skill monkey. However, I encountered the following problems.
1)No able learner, so purchasing skills such as UMD are difficult to buy
2)Skill Points themselves are lack luster
3)I wanted to at least push at being a triple threat

Given Variant/Dubius Rules
Cloistered Cleric
LA buy back
No non gnome shadowcraft mages
Bardic College can grant speak language: (druidic)
All Wizards of the Coast Books are allowed, no Dragon, non Forgotten Realms campaign Setting are subject to heavy DM oversight
Ring of Evasion cannot be used to qualify for Fochlucan Lyrist
PHB II Spontaneous Domain Casting (illusion)

Fochlucan Lyrist sounded good, so I decided to play with that. The end result so far...

Shadow (Lords of Madness, grants evasion) Whisper Gnome +2 LA
Cloistered Cleric 1: Heighten Spell, Illusion and Trickery Domain
Cloistered Cleric 2:
Cloistered Cleric 3: Divine Metamagic: Heighten Spell
Cloistered Cleric 4:
Beguiler 1:
Uncanny Trickster 1: Spell Focus Illusion
Shadow Craft Mage 1:(Qualified through divine metamagic heightened dark way)
Shadow Craft Mage 2:
Uncanny Trickster 2: (advances Shadowcraft Mage) Earth Sense
Uncanny Trickster 3: (advances Shadowcraft Mage)
Fochlucan Lyrist 1:
Fochlucan Lyrist 2: Earth Spell
finish off with Fochlucan Lyrist.

Anyway, any help or opinions would be appreciated. Variants might be
1)Take a level of bard instead of beguiler and uncanny trickster. It nets less skill points, and worse arcane caster, but gives bardic music and can with a lot of crossclass buying allow qualification to Fochlucan Lyrist while only loosing one divine spellcasting level. I'd take Kobold Domain for trapsense. One Less BAB.
2)Take wizard instead of beguiler, kobold domain, still needs Uncanny Trickster. Better Arcane Spellcasting
3)Domain other than Trickery

Thank you all in advance.
interpretivechaos
02-04-07, 09:12 AM :bump:
colm_l
02-04-07, 09:28 AM Please wait 24 hours between bumps. A large number of CO regulars are in different time zones to you.

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Post/Author/DateTime	Post
interpretivechaos 02-03-07, 11:11 PM	I wanted to build a shadowcraft mage that could also serve as the skill monkey. However, I encountered the following problems. 1)No able learner, so purchasing skills such as UMD are difficult to buy 2)Skill Points themselves are lack luster 3)I wanted to at least push at being a triple threat Given Variant/Dubius Rules Cloistered Cleric LA buy back No non gnome shadowcraft mages Bardic College can grant speak language: (druidic) All Wizards of the Coast Books are allowed, no Dragon, non Forgotten Realms campaign Setting are subject to heavy DM oversight Ring of Evasion cannot be used to qualify for Fochlucan Lyrist PHB II Spontaneous Domain Casting (illusion) Fochlucan Lyrist sounded good, so I decided to play with that. The end result so far... Shadow (Lords of Madness, grants evasion) Whisper Gnome +2 LA Cloistered Cleric 1: Heighten Spell, Illusion and Trickery Domain Cloistered Cleric 2: Cloistered Cleric 3: Divine Metamagic: Heighten Spell Cloistered Cleric 4: Beguiler 1: Uncanny Trickster 1: Spell Focus Illusion Shadow Craft Mage 1:(Qualified through divine metamagic heightened dark way) Shadow Craft Mage 2: Uncanny Trickster 2: (advances Shadowcraft Mage) Earth Sense Uncanny Trickster 3: (advances Shadowcraft Mage) Fochlucan Lyrist 1: Fochlucan Lyrist 2: Earth Spell finish off with Fochlucan Lyrist. Anyway, any help or opinions would be appreciated. Variants might be 1)Take a level of bard instead of beguiler and uncanny trickster. It nets less skill points, and worse arcane caster, but gives bardic music and can with a lot of crossclass buying allow qualification to Fochlucan Lyrist while only loosing one divine spellcasting level. I'd take Kobold Domain for trapsense. One Less BAB. 2)Take wizard instead of beguiler, kobold domain, still needs Uncanny Trickster. Better Arcane Spellcasting 3)Domain other than Trickery Thank you all in advance.
interpretivechaos 02-04-07, 09:12 AM	:bump:
colm_l 02-04-07, 09:28 AM	Please wait 24 hours between bumps. A large number of CO regulars are in different time zones to you. Also, please read the posting guidelines