Alternate Turn Undead [Archive] - Wizards Community

Alternate Turn Undead [Archive] - Wizards Community

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feintmaster
09-05-05, 01:56 PM I was just wondering if there are any alternate ways to geting the Turn/Rebuke Undead ability, variant rules or such? I need the one level dip into cleric for another class and it would work perfectly if there was just another way. Any ways possible would be good. Thanks.
PhaedrusXY
09-05-05, 01:58 PM You mean without taking actual class levels that grant Turn/Rebuke Undead? The only way I know is to be an Illithid Savant and eat a cleric's brain. I think the trick used by Pun-Pun the kobold would work for this, also. (See "The Most Powerful Character... EVAR" thread)

Edit; Doesn't an Ur-Priest have an ability called Steal Supernatural Ability, or something? They could steal another cleric's turning ability with that, I think, since Turn Undead is a supernatural ability. I'm not sure how the details of that work, though, so you'd have to read up on it yourself.
Caelic
09-05-05, 05:19 PM ...of course, since the Ur-Priest doesn't get that ability until level 10, and gets Rebuke Undead at level 2 (which fuels just about all the same things Turn Undead fuels,) it might sort of defeat the purpose to take all ten levels in order to get turning.
PhaedrusXY
09-05-05, 05:33 PM ...of course, since the Ur-Priest doesn't get that ability until level 10, and gets Rebuke Undead at level 2 (which fuels just about all the same things Turn Undead fuels,) it might sort of defeat the purpose to take all ten levels in order to get turning. :heehee Good point.
Rundor The Mighty
09-06-05, 07:40 AM Whats the earliest you can get turn undead without cleric? I looked at sacred exorcist and you need i think a 6th level spell to qualify so that isn't early. :banghead:
imneuromancer
09-06-05, 08:31 AM If you can use the Complete Divine book and are willing to wait until 9th level, then Sacred Exorcist is your best bet.

You will need to put a bunch of points in a couple of possibly sub-optimal skills (K: Planes and K: religion). Also you will need to get the 5th-level Wiz spell "Dismissal" ASAP.

You will also have to make sure that you play your character a certain way, based on what your GM requires of you to get into the organization, etc. Shouldn't be too hard, but is a factor, nonetheless.

The good news is, though, that you get LOTS of cool goodies for the above. It is a really good PrC for wizards.
Lilt
09-06-05, 09:30 AM What is your character presently?

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
feintmaster 09-05-05, 01:56 PM	I was just wondering if there are any alternate ways to geting the Turn/Rebuke Undead ability, variant rules or such? I need the one level dip into cleric for another class and it would work perfectly if there was just another way. Any ways possible would be good. Thanks.
PhaedrusXY 09-05-05, 01:58 PM	You mean without taking actual class levels that grant Turn/Rebuke Undead? The only way I know is to be an Illithid Savant and eat a cleric's brain. I think the trick used by Pun-Pun the kobold would work for this, also. (See "The Most Powerful Character... EVAR" thread) Edit; Doesn't an Ur-Priest have an ability called Steal Supernatural Ability, or something? They could steal another cleric's turning ability with that, I think, since Turn Undead is a supernatural ability. I'm not sure how the details of that work, though, so you'd have to read up on it yourself.
Caelic 09-05-05, 05:19 PM	...of course, since the Ur-Priest doesn't get that ability until level 10, and gets Rebuke Undead at level 2 (which fuels just about all the same things Turn Undead fuels,) it might sort of defeat the purpose to take all ten levels in order to get turning.
PhaedrusXY 09-05-05, 05:33 PM	...of course, since the Ur-Priest doesn't get that ability until level 10, and gets Rebuke Undead at level 2 (which fuels just about all the same things Turn Undead fuels,) it might sort of defeat the purpose to take all ten levels in order to get turning. :heehee Good point.
Rundor The Mighty 09-06-05, 07:40 AM	Whats the earliest you can get turn undead without cleric? I looked at sacred exorcist and you need i think a 6th level spell to qualify so that isn't early. :banghead:
imneuromancer 09-06-05, 08:31 AM	If you can use the Complete Divine book and are willing to wait until 9th level, then Sacred Exorcist is your best bet. You will need to put a bunch of points in a couple of possibly sub-optimal skills (K: Planes and K: religion). Also you will need to get the 5th-level Wiz spell "Dismissal" ASAP. You will also have to make sure that you play your character a certain way, based on what your GM requires of you to get into the organization, etc. Shouldn't be too hard, but is a factor, nonetheless. The good news is, though, that you get LOTS of cool goodies for the above. It is a really good PrC for wizards.
Lilt 09-06-05, 09:30 AM	What is your character presently?