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peeffan
05-08-06, 06:21 PM Here is my current build for a melee fighter I just made. I only have the psionics, core, and ebberon books so I'm a little limited on feat selection. Any advice you can give me for this would be great. Thanks in advance.

Race: Human
Stats:
Str: Max
Dex: Dump
Con: Max (Second Priority)
Int: >12
Wis: >12
Cha: Dump

Skills to max out:
Jump (Str)
Concentration (Con)
Autohypnosis (Wis)
Tumble (Dex)

Level / Feat Progression
(1) Fighter 1: Exotic Weapon Proficiency (Spiked Chain) / Combat Expertise / Improved Trip
(2) Fighter 2: Power Attack
(3) Fighter 3: Wild Talent
(4) Fighter 4: Cleave
(5) Fighter 4/Psychic Warrior 1: Psionic Weapon
(6) Fighter 4/Psychic Warrior 2: Narrow Mind / Speed of Thought
(7) Fighter 4/Psychic Warrior 2/Barbarian 1:
(8) Fighter 4/Psychic Warrior 3/Barbarian 1:
(9) Fighter 4/Psychic Warrior 3/Barbarian 1/Dragoon* 1:
(10) Fighter 4/Psychic Warrior 3/Barbarian 1/Dragoon* 2:
(11) Fighter 4/Psychic Warrior 3/Barbarian 1/Dragoon* 3:
(12) Fighter 4/Psychic Warrior 3/Barbarian 1/Dragoon* 4: Combat Reflexes
(13) Fighter 4/Psychic Warrior 3/Barbarian 1/Dragoon* 5:
(14) Fighter 4/Psychic Warrior 3/Barbarian 1/Dragoon* 6:
(15) Fighter 4/Psychic Warrior 3/Barbarian 1/Dragoon* 7: Weapon Focus (Spiked Chain)
(16) Fighter 4/Psychic Warrior 3/Barbarian 1/Dragoon* 8:
(17) Fighter 4/Psychic Warrior 3/Barbarian 1/Dragoon* 9:
(18) Fighter 4/Psychic Warrior 3/Barbarian 1/Dragoon* 10: Weapon Specialization (Spiked Chain)
(19) Fighter 4/Psychic Warrior 4/Barbarian 1/Dragoon* 10: Great Cleave
(20) Fighter 5/ Psychic Warrior 4/Barbarian 1/Dragoon* 10:
* The dragoon is a prestige class I made based off of the final fantasy dragoon class. I’ll post it here as well as in it’s own thread for critiqueDRAGOON
Hit Die: d10.
Requirements
To qualify to become a dragoon, a character must fulfill all the following criteria.
Alignment: Lawful good, chaotic good, lawful evil, or chaotic evil.
Race: Any nondragon (cannot already be a half-dragon).
Base Attack Bonus: +7.
Languages: Draconic.
Skills: Jump 10 ranks.
Special: The character must have made contact with a true dragon. The character must also maintain the maximum number of ranks in jump possible, or lose all special abilities of the dragoon class.
Class Skills
The dragoon’s class skills (and the key ability for each skill) are Climb (Str), Intimidate (Cha), Handle Animal (Cha), Jump (Str), Ride (Dex), and Swim (Str).
Skill Points at Each Level: 2 + Int modifier.

Table: The Dragoon
Level Base
Attack
Bonus Fort
Save Ref
Save Will
Save Special
1st +1 +2 0 +1 Dragon Slayer
2nd +2 +3 0 +1 Impale
3rd +3 +3 +1 +2 Dragon’s Strength
4th +4 +4 +1 +2 Jab Attack
5th +5 +4 +1 +3 Jump Attack
6th +6 +5 +2 +3
7th +7 +5 +2 +4
8th +8 +6 +2 +4 Greater Dragon’s Strength
9th +9 +6 +3 +5 Improved Jab Attack
10th +10 +7 +3 +5 High Jump Attack

Class Features
All of the following are Class Features of the dragoon prestige class.
Weapon and Armor Proficiency: dragoons are proficient with all simple and martial weapons, with all types of armor, and with shields.
Dragon Slayer (Ex): A dragoon gets +2 on attack and damage rolls made against dragons. A dragoon also deals an additional 2d6 of damage against dragons.
Impale (Ex): At 2nd level, a dragoon may attack both the square adjacent to them as well as the square directly behind it when using a piercing reach weapon.
Dragons’ strength (Ex): At 3rd level, a dragoon is no longer affected by armor check penalties made when using strength based skills (Climb, Jump, and Swim).
Jab Attack (Ex): At 4th level, when a dragoon attacks, she may choose to make up to two additional melee attacks against a single target with a cumulative –2 penalty per attack to all attack rolls.
Jump Attack (Ex): At 5th level, when using the full attack option, a dragoon may forgo regular attacks and instead make one melee attack with her jump modifier instead of her normal attack modifier. When she does this, she may move up to five feet for every five ranks in jump she has, regardless of terrain.
Greater Dragon’s Strength (Ex): At 8th level, a dragoon treats armors are one category lighter than normal for purposes of movement and other limitations.
Improved Jab Attack (Ex): At 9th level, a dragoon using the jab attack ability may make an additional attack and is no longer penalized for using this ability.
High Jump Attack (Ex): At 10th level, whenever a dragoon uses the Jump Attack ability she deals double damage.
Animefunkmaster
05-08-06, 07:57 PM Well, if it is allowed, Complete Warrior/Miniatures handbook has some neat feats for some AoO (I noticed combat reflexes):

Hold the line (Each time an opponent charges into a square you threaten you get an AoO)
Karmic Strike (Pre req dodge/combat expertise: take a -4 to ac, when someone hits you in melee you get an AoO)

I don’t have the miniatures handbook on hand:
SideStep: you get to make a 5 foot step after an AoO

If your going high damage output (With your “high jump” ability)
Power Attack
Battle Jump/leap (I forgot the names, they double power attack damage on a charge, makes a must jump during the charge)

Also check out Combat Brute (Sundering cleave is nice and momentum swing) and Shock Trooper (Headless charge) in Complete Warrior… they do more power attack damage, and you take a penalty on your AC not the to hit for power attack… the pre reqs are a little high.

I would not take cleave, greater cleave… the weapon enhancement mighty cleaving is a good substitute, unless you had your heart set on other enhancements.

I would ditch weapon focus, weapon specialization, and narrow mind. I have mixed feelings about speed of thought. Possibly quicken power, might be useful.

This is my quick take on it.
PS: if you can take weapon enhancements from Arms and Equipment, take sweeping (+1), it grants a +4 to trip attempts. Also, if you use expansion 2, you will have +8 more to trip, and some things can’t trip you back.
Thanatos42
05-08-06, 08:30 PM Be careful optimizing a PrC of your own making. If you make a very powerful character through optimization, it will seem like your PrC is simply unbalanced.

A spiked chain seems like an odd weapon choice. Why not a lance or a glaive? Especially with your Impale ability.
peeffan
05-09-06, 12:42 AM Update 1
Changes: Moved feats around, favored psychic warrior over fighter

Race: Human
Stats:
Str: Max
Dex: >11
Con: Max (Second Priority)
Int: >12
Wis: >12
Cha: Dump

Skills to max out:
Jump (Str)
Concentration (Con)
Autohypnosis (Wis)
Tumble (Dex)

Level / Feat Progression
(1) Fighter 1: Wild Talent / Combat Expertise / Improved Trip
(2) Fighter 2: Power Attack
(3) Fighter 2/Psychic Warrior 1: Psionic Weapon / Narrow Mind
(4) Fighter 2/Psychic Warrior 2: Speed of Thought
(5) Fighter 2/Psychic Warrior 3:
(6) Fighter 2/Psychic Warrior 4: Greater Psionic Weapon
(7) Fighter 2/Psychic Warrior 4/Barbarian 1:
(8) Fighter 3/Psychic Warrior 4/Barbarian 1:
(9) Fighter 3/Psychic Warrior 4/Barbarian 1/Dragoon* 1: Combat Reflexes
(10) Fighter 3/Psychic Warrior 4/Barbarian 1/Dragoon* 2:
(11) Fighter 3/Psychic Warrior 4/Barbarian 1/Dragoon* 3:
(12) Fighter 3/Psychic Warrior 4/Barbarian 1/Dragoon* 4: SideStep
(13) Fighter 3/Psychic Warrior 4/Barbarian 1/Dragoon* 5:
(14) Fighter 3/Psychic Warrior 4/Barbarian 1/Dragoon* 6:
(15) Fighter 3/Psychic Warrior 4/Barbarian 1/Dragoon* 7: Karmic Strike
(16) Fighter 3/Psychic Warrior 4/Barbarian 1/Dragoon* 8:
(17) Fighter 3/Psychic Warrior 4/Barbarian 1/Dragoon* 9:
(18) Fighter 3/Psychic Warrior 4/Barbarian 1/Dragoon* 10: Exotic Weapon Proficiency (Spiked Chain)
(19) Fighter 4/Psychic Warrior 4/Barbarian 1/Dragoon* 10: Cleave
(20) Fighter 3/ Psychic Warrior 4/Barbarian 1/Dragoon* 10:
* The dragoon is a prestige class I made based off of the final fantasy dragoon class. I’ll post it here as well as in it’s own thread for critiqueDRAGOON
Hit Die: d10.
Requirements
To qualify to become a dragoon, a character must fulfill all the following criteria.
Alignment: Lawful good, chaotic good, lawful evil, or chaotic evil.
Race: Any nondragon (cannot already be a half-dragon).
Base Attack Bonus: +7.
Languages: Draconic.
Skills: Jump 10 ranks.
Special: The character must have made contact with a true dragon. The character must also maintain the maximum number of ranks in jump possible, or lose all special abilities of the dragoon class.
Class Skills
The dragoon’s class skills (and the key ability for each skill) are Climb (Str), Intimidate (Cha), Handle Animal (Cha), Jump (Str), Ride (Dex), and Swim (Str).
Skill Points at Each Level: 2 + Int modifier.

Table: The Dragoon
Level Base
Attack
Bonus Fort
Save Ref
Save Will
Save Special
1st +1 +2 0 +1 Dragon Slayer
2nd +2 +3 0 +1 Impale
3rd +3 +3 +1 +2 Dragon’s Strength
4th +4 +4 +1 +2 Jab Attack
5th +5 +4 +1 +3 Jump Attack
6th +6 +5 +2 +3
7th +7 +5 +2 +4
8th +8 +6 +2 +4 Greater Dragon’s Strength
9th +9 +6 +3 +5 Improved Jab Attack
10th +10 +7 +3 +5 High Jump Attack

Class Features
All of the following are Class Features of the dragoon prestige class.
Weapon and Armor Proficiency: dragoons are proficient with all simple and martial weapons, with all types of armor, and with shields.
Dragon Slayer (Ex): A dragoon gets +2 on attack and damage rolls made against dragons. A dragoon also deals an additional 2d6 of damage against dragons.
Impale (Ex): At 2nd level, a dragoon may attack both the square adjacent to them as well as the square directly behind it when using a piercing reach weapon.
Dragons’ strength (Ex): At 3rd level, a dragoon is no longer affected by armor check penalties made when using strength based skills (Climb, Jump, and Swim).
Jab Attack (Ex): At 4th level, when a dragoon attacks, she may choose to make up to two additional melee attacks against a single target with a cumulative –2 penalty per attack to all attack rolls.
Jump Attack (Ex): At 5th level, when using the full attack option, a dragoon may forgo regular attacks and instead make one melee attack with her jump modifier instead of her normal attack modifier. When she does this, she may move up to five feet for every five ranks in jump she has, regardless of terrain.
Greater Dragon’s Strength (Ex): At 8th level, a dragoon treats armors are one category lighter than normal for purposes of movement and other limitations.
Improved Jab Attack (Ex): At 9th level, a dragoon using the jab attack ability may make an additional attack and is no longer penalized for using this ability.
High Jump Attack (Ex): At 10th level, whenever a dragoon uses the Jump Attack ability she deals double damage.The Reason I kept Narrow Mind is that I like the idea of becoming psionicly focused followed by an improved trip attack using psionic weapon. Essentially +4 attack and 4d6 extra damage.

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peeffan 05-08-06, 06:21 PM	Here is my current build for a melee fighter I just made. I only have the psionics, core, and ebberon books so I'm a little limited on feat selection. Any advice you can give me for this would be great. Thanks in advance. Race: Human Stats: Str: Max Dex: Dump Con: Max (Second Priority) Int: >12 Wis: >12 Cha: Dump Skills to max out: Jump (Str) Concentration (Con) Autohypnosis (Wis) Tumble (Dex) Level / Feat Progression (1) Fighter 1: Exotic Weapon Proficiency (Spiked Chain) / Combat Expertise / Improved Trip (2) Fighter 2: Power Attack (3) Fighter 3: Wild Talent (4) Fighter 4: Cleave (5) Fighter 4/Psychic Warrior 1: Psionic Weapon (6) Fighter 4/Psychic Warrior 2: Narrow Mind / Speed of Thought (7) Fighter 4/Psychic Warrior 2/Barbarian 1: (8) Fighter 4/Psychic Warrior 3/Barbarian 1: (9) Fighter 4/Psychic Warrior 3/Barbarian 1/Dragoon* 1: (10) Fighter 4/Psychic Warrior 3/Barbarian 1/Dragoon* 2: (11) Fighter 4/Psychic Warrior 3/Barbarian 1/Dragoon* 3: (12) Fighter 4/Psychic Warrior 3/Barbarian 1/Dragoon* 4: Combat Reflexes (13) Fighter 4/Psychic Warrior 3/Barbarian 1/Dragoon* 5: (14) Fighter 4/Psychic Warrior 3/Barbarian 1/Dragoon* 6: (15) Fighter 4/Psychic Warrior 3/Barbarian 1/Dragoon* 7: Weapon Focus (Spiked Chain) (16) Fighter 4/Psychic Warrior 3/Barbarian 1/Dragoon* 8: (17) Fighter 4/Psychic Warrior 3/Barbarian 1/Dragoon* 9: (18) Fighter 4/Psychic Warrior 3/Barbarian 1/Dragoon* 10: Weapon Specialization (Spiked Chain) (19) Fighter 4/Psychic Warrior 4/Barbarian 1/Dragoon* 10: Great Cleave (20) Fighter 5/ Psychic Warrior 4/Barbarian 1/Dragoon* 10: * The dragoon is a prestige class I made based off of the final fantasy dragoon class. I’ll post it here as well as in it’s own thread for critiqueDRAGOON Hit Die: d10. Requirements To qualify to become a dragoon, a character must fulfill all the following criteria. Alignment: Lawful good, chaotic good, lawful evil, or chaotic evil. Race: Any nondragon (cannot already be a half-dragon). Base Attack Bonus: +7. Languages: Draconic. Skills: Jump 10 ranks. Special: The character must have made contact with a true dragon. The character must also maintain the maximum number of ranks in jump possible, or lose all special abilities of the dragoon class. Class Skills The dragoon’s class skills (and the key ability for each skill) are Climb (Str), Intimidate (Cha), Handle Animal (Cha), Jump (Str), Ride (Dex), and Swim (Str). Skill Points at Each Level: 2 + Int modifier. Table: The Dragoon Level Base Attack Bonus Fort Save Ref Save Will Save Special 1st +1 +2 0 +1 Dragon Slayer 2nd +2 +3 0 +1 Impale 3rd +3 +3 +1 +2 Dragon’s Strength 4th +4 +4 +1 +2 Jab Attack 5th +5 +4 +1 +3 Jump Attack 6th +6 +5 +2 +3 7th +7 +5 +2 +4 8th +8 +6 +2 +4 Greater Dragon’s Strength 9th +9 +6 +3 +5 Improved Jab Attack 10th +10 +7 +3 +5 High Jump Attack Class Features All of the following are Class Features of the dragoon prestige class. Weapon and Armor Proficiency: dragoons are proficient with all simple and martial weapons, with all types of armor, and with shields. Dragon Slayer (Ex): A dragoon gets +2 on attack and damage rolls made against dragons. A dragoon also deals an additional 2d6 of damage against dragons. Impale (Ex): At 2nd level, a dragoon may attack both the square adjacent to them as well as the square directly behind it when using a piercing reach weapon. Dragons’ strength (Ex): At 3rd level, a dragoon is no longer affected by armor check penalties made when using strength based skills (Climb, Jump, and Swim). Jab Attack (Ex): At 4th level, when a dragoon attacks, she may choose to make up to two additional melee attacks against a single target with a cumulative –2 penalty per attack to all attack rolls. Jump Attack (Ex): At 5th level, when using the full attack option, a dragoon may forgo regular attacks and instead make one melee attack with her jump modifier instead of her normal attack modifier. When she does this, she may move up to five feet for every five ranks in jump she has, regardless of terrain. Greater Dragon’s Strength (Ex): At 8th level, a dragoon treats armors are one category lighter than normal for purposes of movement and other limitations. Improved Jab Attack (Ex): At 9th level, a dragoon using the jab attack ability may make an additional attack and is no longer penalized for using this ability. High Jump Attack (Ex): At 10th level, whenever a dragoon uses the Jump Attack ability she deals double damage.
Animefunkmaster 05-08-06, 07:57 PM	Well, if it is allowed, Complete Warrior/Miniatures handbook has some neat feats for some AoO (I noticed combat reflexes): Hold the line (Each time an opponent charges into a square you threaten you get an AoO) Karmic Strike (Pre req dodge/combat expertise: take a -4 to ac, when someone hits you in melee you get an AoO) I don’t have the miniatures handbook on hand: SideStep: you get to make a 5 foot step after an AoO If your going high damage output (With your “high jump” ability) Power Attack Battle Jump/leap (I forgot the names, they double power attack damage on a charge, makes a must jump during the charge) Also check out Combat Brute (Sundering cleave is nice and momentum swing) and Shock Trooper (Headless charge) in Complete Warrior… they do more power attack damage, and you take a penalty on your AC not the to hit for power attack… the pre reqs are a little high. I would not take cleave, greater cleave… the weapon enhancement mighty cleaving is a good substitute, unless you had your heart set on other enhancements. I would ditch weapon focus, weapon specialization, and narrow mind. I have mixed feelings about speed of thought. Possibly quicken power, might be useful. This is my quick take on it. PS: if you can take weapon enhancements from Arms and Equipment, take sweeping (+1), it grants a +4 to trip attempts. Also, if you use expansion 2, you will have +8 more to trip, and some things can’t trip you back.
Thanatos42 05-08-06, 08:30 PM	Be careful optimizing a PrC of your own making. If you make a very powerful character through optimization, it will seem like your PrC is simply unbalanced. A spiked chain seems like an odd weapon choice. Why not a lance or a glaive? Especially with your Impale ability.
peeffan 05-09-06, 12:42 AM	Update 1 Changes: Moved feats around, favored psychic warrior over fighter Race: Human Stats: Str: Max Dex: >11 Con: Max (Second Priority) Int: >12 Wis: >12 Cha: Dump Skills to max out: Jump (Str) Concentration (Con) Autohypnosis (Wis) Tumble (Dex) Level / Feat Progression (1) Fighter 1: Wild Talent / Combat Expertise / Improved Trip (2) Fighter 2: Power Attack (3) Fighter 2/Psychic Warrior 1: Psionic Weapon / Narrow Mind (4) Fighter 2/Psychic Warrior 2: Speed of Thought (5) Fighter 2/Psychic Warrior 3: (6) Fighter 2/Psychic Warrior 4: Greater Psionic Weapon (7) Fighter 2/Psychic Warrior 4/Barbarian 1: (8) Fighter 3/Psychic Warrior 4/Barbarian 1: (9) Fighter 3/Psychic Warrior 4/Barbarian 1/Dragoon* 1: Combat Reflexes (10) Fighter 3/Psychic Warrior 4/Barbarian 1/Dragoon* 2: (11) Fighter 3/Psychic Warrior 4/Barbarian 1/Dragoon* 3: (12) Fighter 3/Psychic Warrior 4/Barbarian 1/Dragoon* 4: SideStep (13) Fighter 3/Psychic Warrior 4/Barbarian 1/Dragoon* 5: (14) Fighter 3/Psychic Warrior 4/Barbarian 1/Dragoon* 6: (15) Fighter 3/Psychic Warrior 4/Barbarian 1/Dragoon* 7: Karmic Strike (16) Fighter 3/Psychic Warrior 4/Barbarian 1/Dragoon* 8: (17) Fighter 3/Psychic Warrior 4/Barbarian 1/Dragoon* 9: (18) Fighter 3/Psychic Warrior 4/Barbarian 1/Dragoon* 10: Exotic Weapon Proficiency (Spiked Chain) (19) Fighter 4/Psychic Warrior 4/Barbarian 1/Dragoon* 10: Cleave (20) Fighter 3/ Psychic Warrior 4/Barbarian 1/Dragoon* 10: * The dragoon is a prestige class I made based off of the final fantasy dragoon class. I’ll post it here as well as in it’s own thread for critiqueDRAGOON Hit Die: d10. Requirements To qualify to become a dragoon, a character must fulfill all the following criteria. Alignment: Lawful good, chaotic good, lawful evil, or chaotic evil. Race: Any nondragon (cannot already be a half-dragon). Base Attack Bonus: +7. Languages: Draconic. Skills: Jump 10 ranks. Special: The character must have made contact with a true dragon. The character must also maintain the maximum number of ranks in jump possible, or lose all special abilities of the dragoon class. Class Skills The dragoon’s class skills (and the key ability for each skill) are Climb (Str), Intimidate (Cha), Handle Animal (Cha), Jump (Str), Ride (Dex), and Swim (Str). Skill Points at Each Level: 2 + Int modifier. Table: The Dragoon Level Base Attack Bonus Fort Save Ref Save Will Save Special 1st +1 +2 0 +1 Dragon Slayer 2nd +2 +3 0 +1 Impale 3rd +3 +3 +1 +2 Dragon’s Strength 4th +4 +4 +1 +2 Jab Attack 5th +5 +4 +1 +3 Jump Attack 6th +6 +5 +2 +3 7th +7 +5 +2 +4 8th +8 +6 +2 +4 Greater Dragon’s Strength 9th +9 +6 +3 +5 Improved Jab Attack 10th +10 +7 +3 +5 High Jump Attack Class Features All of the following are Class Features of the dragoon prestige class. Weapon and Armor Proficiency: dragoons are proficient with all simple and martial weapons, with all types of armor, and with shields. Dragon Slayer (Ex): A dragoon gets +2 on attack and damage rolls made against dragons. A dragoon also deals an additional 2d6 of damage against dragons. Impale (Ex): At 2nd level, a dragoon may attack both the square adjacent to them as well as the square directly behind it when using a piercing reach weapon. Dragons’ strength (Ex): At 3rd level, a dragoon is no longer affected by armor check penalties made when using strength based skills (Climb, Jump, and Swim). Jab Attack (Ex): At 4th level, when a dragoon attacks, she may choose to make up to two additional melee attacks against a single target with a cumulative –2 penalty per attack to all attack rolls. Jump Attack (Ex): At 5th level, when using the full attack option, a dragoon may forgo regular attacks and instead make one melee attack with her jump modifier instead of her normal attack modifier. When she does this, she may move up to five feet for every five ranks in jump she has, regardless of terrain. Greater Dragon’s Strength (Ex): At 8th level, a dragoon treats armors are one category lighter than normal for purposes of movement and other limitations. Improved Jab Attack (Ex): At 9th level, a dragoon using the jab attack ability may make an additional attack and is no longer penalized for using this ability. High Jump Attack (Ex): At 10th level, whenever a dragoon uses the Jump Attack ability she deals double damage.The Reason I kept Narrow Mind is that I like the idea of becoming psionicly focused followed by an improved trip attack using psionic weapon. Essentially +4 attack and 4d6 extra damage.