Any classes out there with a +1 BAB and +2 Will Save at level 1? [Archive] - Wizards Community

Any classes out there with a +1 BAB and +2 Will Save at level 1? [Archive] - Wizards Community

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aprilia4life
12-16-05, 08:34 AM I am going into frenzied beserker mode soon (I am at level 4 going into level 5) and need all the will save help I can get.

Any classes out there with a +1 BAB and +2 Will Save at level 1?

So it would either be Barb 6/FB X or Barb 4/? 2/FB X

Tah
Serrin
12-16-05, 08:37 AM This is totally off the top of my head, but have you checked hexblade?
klode_me
12-16-05, 08:38 AM Hexblade
hogarth
12-16-05, 09:39 AM Occult Slayer
Pious Templar
Anointed Knight

You probably wouldn't be able to scrape together the feats (or skill points) to qualify for any of those, though.
ksbsnowowl
12-16-05, 10:01 AM If you can use Unearthed Arcana take a look at the Paladin of Freedom (or Slaughter). Charisma to saves can be your friend.

Also check out the feat Cumbrous Will in Savage Species. Once per day it gives you a +6 unnamed bonus to Will saves, but afterward you are stunned(?) for a few rounds. Not a bad thing to have in order to keep you from killing your party.

If you have a Red Mage in your party, Thayan Knight (Lords of Darkness) is a great class; they auto-fail against the spells of Red Mages. The party mage can keep you under control.
Khazra Reborn
12-16-05, 10:10 AM there 2 or 3 Prcs in BoVD that could be good (well, evil). A small fighter dip would also be nice as they & FB need a few feats.

Human barb5/fighter1/disicple of dispater4/FB10
1. Disciple of darkness, combat expertise
3. destructive rage
6. intimidating rage, PA
9. cleave
12. EWP great scimitar
15. improved critical great scimitar
18. leap attack

Whats worse then an FB with a greatsword? An FB who does the same damage as a greatsword but with a 15-20 crit range :devil:
Taeldrin Laesrash
12-16-05, 10:40 AM Dragonslayer from the Draconomicon is easy to get into, has a full BAB, and has good Fortitude and Will saves. Can't go wrong.
Zemyla
12-16-05, 01:36 PM Also check out the feat Cumbrous Will in Savage Species. Once per day it gives you a +6 unnamed bonus to Will saves, but afterward you are stunned(?) for a few rounds. Not a bad thing to have in order to keep you from killing your party.

Actually, you're shaken, not stunned.
Part-Human2
12-16-05, 03:00 PM UA
Generic Warrior
Paragon, Half-Dragon

DMG
Dwarven Defender
Surreal
12-16-05, 06:59 PM Actually, you're shaken, not stunned.
What if he's stirred?

(had to be said :rolleyes: )
Surreal
12-16-05, 07:00 PM There's a feat in Sandstorm (Scorpion's Resolve I think) that gives you a +4 against mind altering effects.
BadCatMan
12-16-05, 07:15 PM Actually, you're shaken, not stunned.

And some Regional feats, such as Bullheaded from FR make you immune to the shaken condition, as well as an extra +2 Will.

Bullheaded + Iron Will + Cumbrous Will = +10 Will Saves, no drawbacks,

This gets you halfway towards making that save.

I didn't come up with, but this is a great cure.
tsuyoshikentsu
12-17-05, 12:07 AM What if he's stirred?

Then that human male Spymater 7 over there will be very, VERY angry.
Impeesa
12-17-05, 01:18 AM For my frenzied berserker, I went Paladin of Freedom 2/Anointed Knight 1. Paladin gives me Divine Grace and immunity to compulsion, AK gives me +1 BAB/good will save and (since my chr is high anyways) DR 3/-. Good stuff.

--Impeesa--

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
aprilia4life 12-16-05, 08:34 AM	I am going into frenzied beserker mode soon (I am at level 4 going into level 5) and need all the will save help I can get. Any classes out there with a +1 BAB and +2 Will Save at level 1? So it would either be Barb 6/FB X or Barb 4/? 2/FB X Tah
Serrin 12-16-05, 08:37 AM	This is totally off the top of my head, but have you checked hexblade?
klode_me 12-16-05, 08:38 AM	Hexblade
hogarth 12-16-05, 09:39 AM	Occult Slayer Pious Templar Anointed Knight You probably wouldn't be able to scrape together the feats (or skill points) to qualify for any of those, though.
ksbsnowowl 12-16-05, 10:01 AM	If you can use Unearthed Arcana take a look at the Paladin of Freedom (or Slaughter). Charisma to saves can be your friend. Also check out the feat Cumbrous Will in Savage Species. Once per day it gives you a +6 unnamed bonus to Will saves, but afterward you are stunned(?) for a few rounds. Not a bad thing to have in order to keep you from killing your party. If you have a Red Mage in your party, Thayan Knight (Lords of Darkness) is a great class; they auto-fail against the spells of Red Mages. The party mage can keep you under control.
Khazra Reborn 12-16-05, 10:10 AM	there 2 or 3 Prcs in BoVD that could be good (well, evil). A small fighter dip would also be nice as they & FB need a few feats. Human barb5/fighter1/disicple of dispater4/FB10 1. Disciple of darkness, combat expertise 3. destructive rage 6. intimidating rage, PA 9. cleave 12. EWP great scimitar 15. improved critical great scimitar 18. leap attack Whats worse then an FB with a greatsword? An FB who does the same damage as a greatsword but with a 15-20 crit range :devil:
Taeldrin Laesrash 12-16-05, 10:40 AM	Dragonslayer from the Draconomicon is easy to get into, has a full BAB, and has good Fortitude and Will saves. Can't go wrong.
Zemyla 12-16-05, 01:36 PM	Also check out the feat Cumbrous Will in Savage Species. Once per day it gives you a +6 unnamed bonus to Will saves, but afterward you are stunned(?) for a few rounds. Not a bad thing to have in order to keep you from killing your party. Actually, you're shaken, not stunned.
Part-Human2 12-16-05, 03:00 PM	UA Generic Warrior Paragon, Half-Dragon DMG Dwarven Defender
Surreal 12-16-05, 06:59 PM	Actually, you're shaken, not stunned. What if he's stirred? (had to be said :rolleyes: )
Surreal 12-16-05, 07:00 PM	There's a feat in Sandstorm (Scorpion's Resolve I think) that gives you a +4 against mind altering effects.
BadCatMan 12-16-05, 07:15 PM	Actually, you're shaken, not stunned. And some Regional feats, such as Bullheaded from FR make you immune to the shaken condition, as well as an extra +2 Will. Bullheaded + Iron Will + Cumbrous Will = +10 Will Saves, no drawbacks, This gets you halfway towards making that save. I didn't come up with, but this is a great cure.
tsuyoshikentsu 12-17-05, 12:07 AM	What if he's stirred? Then that human male Spymater 7 over there will be very, VERY angry.
Impeesa 12-17-05, 01:18 AM	For my frenzied berserker, I went Paladin of Freedom 2/Anointed Knight 1. Paladin gives me Divine Grace and immunity to compulsion, AK gives me +1 BAB/good will save and (since my chr is high anyways) DR 3/-. Good stuff. --Impeesa--