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ressurrector 01-23-07, 10:32 PM	My character got reincarnated as a centaur (3.0 reincarnation table, 3.5 campaign though) He's currently an Artificier6/Renegade Mastermaker2 I want to know what horseshoes might be worth making (since they tend to be cheaper than items made for characters) Horseshoes of Speed and Horseshoes of the Zephyr are pretty undercosted for what they do, for instance.
BluEnigma 01-23-07, 10:57 PM	I think there was some set of horseshoes that turned a normal horse into a nightmare...with +10 INT among the bonuses. Craft one of those babies, then UMD to emulate a horse. (Stole idea from another poster, forget who. Might want to try to google search the boards for it.)
Endarire 01-23-07, 10:59 PM	These (http://boards1.wizards.com/leaving.php?destination=http://boards1.wizards.com/showpost.php%3Fp%3D11246569%26postcount% 3D7). -EE
Phoenix00 01-23-07, 11:00 PM	Horseshoes of the flame, I haven't check it out to see if it works, but they original "recent" poster is here. http://boards1.wizards.com/showpost.php?p=11246569&postcount=7 Some other people mentioned it in the huge MOMF bible long ago (like page 24 or 26 something.)
Stone_Wolf 01-23-07, 11:00 PM	Dang, I was just about to post the same thing. I'm not sure how to get around the whole being-a-horse thing, but someone will probably pop in and suggest something. :)
jameswilliamogle 01-23-07, 11:03 PM	Awakened Horse? Anthropomorphic Horse? UMD 25?
Phoenix00 01-23-07, 11:06 PM	Quick question, never playing 3.0 only 3.5, but what would that do to your ECL? Centaurs have 4 HD of natural hd? Is it counted towards ecl and xp or not counted?
Phoenix00 01-23-07, 11:32 PM	Thats it after going home and viewing my copy of savage species. I now want to work with my DM the next game and play an "awakened horse" wizard. Hopefully he will allow me to to convert the 3 horse hd+2 awaken horse hd into either level adjustments which I can buy off, or just give me them as wizard levels. Will use mage hand, greater mage hand, telekinesis, spells that grow temporary tentacles and such, and the horse's mouth to manipulate items. Dm will give eschew materials for free. Yes I know a Centuar will be far easier to play, but that isn't the point. I want to play a horse wizard. Phenomenal Cosmic Power yet I still wear a bridle. Respect the Horse!!! Edit: Bah by the time I came home people have already stolen my horse wizard idea :(
Endarire 01-23-07, 11:34 PM	Level adjustment and racial hit dice count as your level. For example, a creature with 4 racial HD and LA2 means you take your first class level at ECL7. -EE
Phoenix00 01-23-07, 11:46 PM	If doing the awaken idea it would be better to do a pony for it has less hit die. If doing the Anthropotic idea you will want ot use a Heavy Horse, but there is a problem with this. An antropotic horse, actually all anthropotic creatures only have an int of 11.
Phoenix00 01-23-07, 11:47 PM	Level adjustment and racial hit dice count as your level. For example, a creature with 4 racial HD and LA2 means you take your first class level at ECL7. -EE I know the normal rules, I was wondering if 3.0 reincarnation modified the ECL in anyway, did it modify the traditional rules. So did it?
Surreal 01-23-07, 11:55 PM	Don't have the book on me at the moment, but I thought those nightmare horseshoes could only be applied to a normal horse? (no centaurs, no awakened, etc.)
Phoenix00 01-24-07, 12:02 AM	Don't have the book on me at the moment, but I thought those nightmare horseshoes could only be applied to a normal horse? (no centaurs, no awakened, etc.) Yes and no, anything that can wear horseshoes can wear them as horseshoes. To recieve the magical benefit you are correct. Until you throw UMD into the mix. "An ordinary horse wearing these horseshoes may transform up to..."
ressurrector 01-24-07, 01:09 AM	Quick question, never playing 3.0 only 3.5, but what would that do to your ECL? Centaurs have 4 HD of natural hd? Is it counted towards ecl and xp or not counted? Well, the DM's fudged it a bit. I add the Centaurs racial modifiers and such, but no racial HD. Also, we're doing holistic leveling so we all level up at the same time regardless. The campaign is a bit monty-haulish. Just wondering what the heck would happen when a centaur uses them to turn into a nightmare... Does he trade the horse body for a nightmare body and keep the human torso? Does he just turn into a nightmare? DM discresion may be required...
tsuyoshikentsu 01-24-07, 02:04 AM	I'd say you turn into a Night-centaur. Nightmare body, fire hair and eyes, black skin, general bad*ssery.
widow 01-24-07, 03:26 AM	Wow the horse shoes are getting the love now. Throw in horseshoes of speed if you can combine items. They are only 3,000gp, so 4,500 if combined, to give you a +30 enchancement bonus to speed. It probably also requires a UDM check since it says animal in the description. If you are into melee, there is a saddle of growth in the arms and equipment guide that increases your size by one catergory 3 times a day. No duration and it costs 48,600gp. Usually size items tell you want they do as far as stats, this just says you gain a size category so I would think the full stats that come with it. If you want to go the other way, there is a small collar for 10,000 gp that makes you small and it stats none of stats change. Ha, Phoenix00 you say my post on the MoMF bible too. It is on page 25, but someone else might have posted earlier as well. Now if I could only get more Fiend of possession threads...
ressurrector 01-24-07, 03:58 AM	Wow the horse shoes are getting the love now. Throw in horseshoes of speed if you can combine items. They are only 3,000gp, so 4,500 if combined, to give you a +30 enchancement bonus to speed. It probably also requires a UDM check since it says animal in the description. If you are into melee, there is a saddle of growth in the arms and equipment guide that increases your size by one catergory 3 times a day. No duration and it costs 48,600gp. Usually size items tell you want they do as far as stats, this just says you gain a size category so I would think the full stats that come with it. If you want to go the other way, there is a small collar for 10,000 gp that makes you small and it stats none of stats change. Ha, Phoenix00 you say my post on the MoMF bible too. It is on page 25, but someone else might have posted earlier as well. Now if I could only get more Fiend of possession threads... I allready checked with the DM about combining horseshoe enchantments. He said no, since that would be a tad overpowered, concidering the low cost to begin with. Secondly, he's allready got a belt with the following: +6 Str (to a total of 26 str) and enlarge at-will. That saddle is way overpriced...48k+ for enlarge 3/day with no stat mods...
runestar 01-24-07, 08:13 AM	You are aware that centaurs can wear magic boots as well, according to races of faerun, right?:) But they are still limited to 1 pair.
Zemyla 01-24-07, 01:10 PM	More love for the horseshoes of flame. We talked about them here. (http://boards1.wizards.com/showthread.php?t=582082)
ressurrector 01-24-07, 03:42 PM	You are aware that centaurs can wear magic boots as well, according to races of faerun, right?:) But they are still limited to 1 pair. That's just messed up... Besides, Races of Faerun, aside from some feats, was crap.