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Armoracia Rusticana 10-24-06, 02:30 PM	Ok, here is idea - to make optimised Gish, which would be a potent Martial Adept, also. I tend to think that I need a Warmage as my casting class. He has all orbs at his disposal, and has a lot of spells per day. He can cast in light armor. Also I don't often play casters, so I'd better stick with one of short and fixed spell list. Though maybe not optimal. Also I think that Warblade would make a Martial Adept part here. Rechargeable Maneuvers, Moment of Perfect Clarity, d12 HD to fuel my hp. Medium armor proficiency to wear mithral breast plate (no ASF due to 'armored mage' ability of Warmage. Hopefully, 'similar limitations' of mithral stuff include AFS. Still, I believe I need a proficiency to use armor...) Ofcourse I want to go Phoenix as soon as possible. So, I take Warmage 5 Warblade 1 Jade Phoenix Mage 6. CL of 9, IL of 9, BAB of 9. Well.. what next? Feats. I think I absolutely need Practiced Spellcaster, don't I? Same for Arcane Strike... My current choise of the rest feats is Empower, Maximise, Searing Spell and Arcane Thesis (Scorching Ray). Any suggestions? I really need them!
PhoenixInferno 10-24-06, 02:41 PM	Ick. Warmage for a Fighter/Mage? I'd rather have either the utility spells of a normal Wiz/Sorcerer, or at least the armored casting and immense number of low level spells/day of the Duskblade.
Xeraph 10-24-06, 02:53 PM	I have to agree. Even Sorcerer is better than Warmage. Need armor? Slap Abjurant Champion on the build... Need better saves? Dip Witch Hunter for Kamis Grace... Need AC? Battle Dancer.
Armoracia Rusticana 10-24-06, 04:06 PM	Duskblade is nice, but surely not my style. As my caster level would be 9, I'll find myself with third level spells only. Also, those spells are not as good (at my opinion at least) as warmage's ones. Armored casting is fine, but I still incure ASF in heavy armor - and I believe I can use Mithral breastplate with no ASF as a warmage. Also, I would have more spells as a warblades - except for level 1 spells, phew. Given I am going to cast maximized or empowered scorching rays out of my 4'th and 3'rd spell slots, expending 0 to 2 slots to fuel arcane wrath and arcane strike, I fail to understand usefullness of Duskblade there. Did I mention my precious maneuvers - just to hang on melee damage output? Enlighten me on the Duskblade's coolness, please. As for sorcerers and wizards, I like spontaneous casting AND relatively wide list of known spells of warmage. I am not going to be arcane support character (wizard/archivist mystic theurge is the guy). I am going to be damage doing specialist both in melee and magic ways. Comments and explainations are still appreciated.
Xeraph 10-24-06, 04:23 PM	A 13th level Duskblade can channel a single spell through his weapon that effects all it touches. Mix this with Mithril Tornado and a Reach weapon and you have good devastation. You could even make use of Arcane Strike in the same combo. Stormguard Warrior is also great here, touch attacks first round to deliver all your Shocking Grasp's and next round you have Combat Rhythm extra damage and Arcane Strike bonus to damage. Mix with Power Attack if needed. Use a Spiked Chain and get Combat Reflexes and the effects can be used on all AoO's. Well just some ideas for a nice Warblade/ Duskblade/ Jade Phoenix Mage setup.
wingedcoyote 10-24-06, 04:27 PM	I'm pretty sure that doesn't work -- Channeling a spell is a standard action that includes an attack, and using Mithral Tornado is also a standard action. Duskblade is a great gish, but IMO it overlaps too much in terms of actions used with Warblade. That said, nothing overlaps with Warblade as much as Warmage. Why on earth do you want to throw Scorching Rays when it means taking time off from kicking ass with Maneuvers? If you're worried about flying enemies, just learn to fly.
Armoracia Rusticana 10-24-06, 04:45 PM	It's all the matter of situation. I want to be a two-trick pony, perhaps. Sometimes it is way easier to kick said ass with maneuver, sometimes mere approaching to rust monster (advanced, templated, antimagicked) is crazy as hell. Or to pudding. Or to the like... Searing spell is good, but sometimes pure caster is likewise screwed - while maneuvers can still prove usefull... Anyway, that seem to be a bad idea for OP. Thanks anyway... Gone hanging my character(((. He can't fly and is doomed... Or he can still live unoptimized life...