Any way to defend TRIP? [Archive] - Wizards Community

Any way to defend TRIP? [Archive] - Wizards Community

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Cave Troll
10-18-04, 02:49 AM When playing a DM, I am so afraid of using TRIP to fight PC. The reason is most monsters are bigger in size, it's meant they are good tripper naturally.
A Tripped PC is of no hope to stand up again in my experience.

TRIP is so overwhelmingly powerful and I can't figure out a feat or some ability that can defend it.

Is there any way to defend it??

Someone can give me advice?
Maruuk
10-18-04, 03:18 AM Steadfast Boots in the Arms and Equipment Guide make the wearer immune to being tripped or bull rushed, and quite economical too.
Ipsissimus
10-18-04, 03:25 AM Dwarves get a stability bonus to resist being tripped, also players how have imp trip as a feat also get a +4 bonus to resist.

If you trip but feel for the PC's, don't trip every attack. Even I feel bad tripping everything all the time or at least trying to.
catharz
10-18-04, 03:36 AM The prone attack feat almost completely defeats trippers. Not only are the penalties for being tripped removed, but you can attack and regain your feet as a free action.
Neonsamurai
10-18-04, 05:38 AM Also note, that only few monsters actually can trip as per the improved trip feat. Most creatures have to make a touch attack, causing an attack of opportunity. If this AoO is successful, the trip attempt is negated anyway.

However, trip is a good combat maneuver and there's not much a character can do about an optimised trip monster.
Cave Troll
10-18-04, 06:15 AM To: neonsamurai

If I don't misread the context, we only provoke AoO in attempt to trip with unarmed. Even if we are unarmed, but the enemy can only do one AoO to you in a round. So as long as we use our full-atk to trip, it's not the problem that AoO will fail our trip.

Thus, if we face a legion of tripper, even if they are merely orcs, it seems still dangerous, doesn't it?
Cave Troll
10-18-04, 06:15 AM deleted
Neonsamurai
10-18-04, 06:38 AM You can only trip with a trip weapon (scythe, spiked chain etc.) or with an unarmed strike. So most monsters will have to use an unarmed strike (albeit their natural weapons) to perform a trip attack.

However you can of course make several trip attempts in hope of draining enough AoOs from your enemy to land a hit.
Six of Clubs
10-18-04, 07:22 AM Something to bear in mind- players aren't obliged to stand up after being tripped. The penalty for attacking while prone is only -4, after all.
Cold Napalm
10-18-04, 07:06 PM Also note that combat reflexes gives multiple AoO.

There are many ways to get around trip actually.
Vanigo
10-18-04, 10:25 PM I think I saw a couple armor abilities that give bonuses to defending against trip attempts in Shining South while flipping through it in the store. Don't know much more about them then that, though.
SaintX
10-18-04, 11:53 PM DC 35 tumble check to stand as a free action without provoking AoO.
Part-Human2
10-19-04, 12:05 AM Roots of the Mountain Divine Feat from Races of Stone.
olothfaern
10-19-04, 12:09 AM ... the catfall power... to paraphrase it says no matter what distance you fall, you land on your feet...

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
Cave Troll 10-18-04, 02:49 AM	When playing a DM, I am so afraid of using TRIP to fight PC. The reason is most monsters are bigger in size, it's meant they are good tripper naturally. A Tripped PC is of no hope to stand up again in my experience. TRIP is so overwhelmingly powerful and I can't figure out a feat or some ability that can defend it. Is there any way to defend it?? Someone can give me advice?
Maruuk 10-18-04, 03:18 AM	Steadfast Boots in the Arms and Equipment Guide make the wearer immune to being tripped or bull rushed, and quite economical too.
Ipsissimus 10-18-04, 03:25 AM	Dwarves get a stability bonus to resist being tripped, also players how have imp trip as a feat also get a +4 bonus to resist. If you trip but feel for the PC's, don't trip every attack. Even I feel bad tripping everything all the time or at least trying to.
catharz 10-18-04, 03:36 AM	The prone attack feat almost completely defeats trippers. Not only are the penalties for being tripped removed, but you can attack and regain your feet as a free action.
Neonsamurai 10-18-04, 05:38 AM	Also note, that only few monsters actually can trip as per the improved trip feat. Most creatures have to make a touch attack, causing an attack of opportunity. If this AoO is successful, the trip attempt is negated anyway. However, trip is a good combat maneuver and there's not much a character can do about an optimised trip monster.
Cave Troll 10-18-04, 06:15 AM	To: neonsamurai If I don't misread the context, we only provoke AoO in attempt to trip with unarmed. Even if we are unarmed, but the enemy can only do one AoO to you in a round. So as long as we use our full-atk to trip, it's not the problem that AoO will fail our trip. Thus, if we face a legion of tripper, even if they are merely orcs, it seems still dangerous, doesn't it?
Cave Troll 10-18-04, 06:15 AM	deleted
Neonsamurai 10-18-04, 06:38 AM	You can only trip with a trip weapon (scythe, spiked chain etc.) or with an unarmed strike. So most monsters will have to use an unarmed strike (albeit their natural weapons) to perform a trip attack. However you can of course make several trip attempts in hope of draining enough AoOs from your enemy to land a hit.
Six of Clubs 10-18-04, 07:22 AM	Something to bear in mind- players aren't obliged to stand up after being tripped. The penalty for attacking while prone is only -4, after all.
Cold Napalm 10-18-04, 07:06 PM	Also note that combat reflexes gives multiple AoO. There are many ways to get around trip actually.
Vanigo 10-18-04, 10:25 PM	I think I saw a couple armor abilities that give bonuses to defending against trip attempts in Shining South while flipping through it in the store. Don't know much more about them then that, though.
SaintX 10-18-04, 11:53 PM	DC 35 tumble check to stand as a free action without provoking AoO.
Part-Human2 10-19-04, 12:05 AM	Roots of the Mountain Divine Feat from Races of Stone.
olothfaern 10-19-04, 12:09 AM	... the catfall power... to paraphrase it says no matter what distance you fall, you land on your feet...