AoO's and how to get lots of them... [Archive] - Wizards Community

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Animae_Draconum

01-24-07, 12:44 AM
I need to know as many possible ways to more AoO's in one round other than combat reflexes.

All 3.5 sources are ok I just need to find ways to get more AoO's.

Thanks,

A_D
The Jake

01-24-07, 12:49 AM
I too would like to know this. The best way I can think of is with reach weapons with tripping if I am not mistaken.
Animae_Draconum

01-24-07, 12:53 AM
This is not about how to use them all in a round but how to get more attacks form them, I find that 11 AoO's is just not enough...
zifflebrinkle

01-24-07, 01:08 AM
Obviously reach and size advantage work, but you would need to be able to produce a surface/area where 5' steps do not work.

My question is how are you getting 11 AOO's now? Are 11 people coming into your area? I would like to hear if it is a houserule about tripping...
Animae_Draconum

01-24-07, 01:11 AM
You are missing the point here, I need to find ways to get more attacks of opportunity and honeslty it isnt hard to burn through 11 with 2 weapon fighting and karmic strike/robilar's gambit.

A_D
PhoenixInferno

01-24-07, 01:21 AM
You are missing the point here, I need to find ways to get more attacks of opportunity and honeslty it isnt hard to burn through 11 with 2 weapon fighting and karmic strike/robilar's gambit.

A_DHow does TWF enter into the equation? Unless you've forgot to mention you have Double Hit - because you only get a single attack. And CustServ stated that Karmic Strike and Robilar's Gambit can't be used to distinguish the attack and the hit itself.
Animae_Draconum

01-24-07, 01:28 AM
Yes indeed I forgot to mention 2 weapon opportunist.
Seeker of Truth

01-24-07, 01:48 AM
Evard's menacing tentacles will give you two more (limited to the tentacles of course). It's at least a druid 3 spell ... other classes may get it too. It's in spell compendium.

Raising dex up the wazoo of course.

That's all I can think of.
Animae_Draconum

01-24-07, 04:44 AM
Thanks everyone for the quick replies and I had not even noticed double hit. Does it work with 2 weapon attack of opportunity?

But it still looks as though I'll be needing to boost dex as much as possible.

Thanks again,

A_D
dragor_shadowfury

01-24-07, 07:47 AM
bigby's slapping hand get you 1, a 1st sorc/wiz spell
frasmage

01-24-07, 07:59 AM
Obviously reach and size advantage work, but you would need to be able to produce a surface/area where 5' steps do not work.

two options:
-knight 3, all squares you threaten are difficult terrain for foes
-crusader, thicket of blades stance, foes you threaten cannot take 5' step or withdraw actions
hovnarr

01-24-07, 08:02 AM
Psychic Weapon Master class grants you Wis bonus to AoO limit too if you already have Combat Reflexes. The power Prowess (level 2) can be manifested instantly to give you an extra AoO. Those are the only ways I know to increase the per round limit. As for actually cashing in on your "available" AoO, there's maxing out your threat range (enlarge effects, chain weapons), the trip mechanic, specific feats (robilar's gambit, karmic strike etc.) I suppose feats like double strike and friends are somewhere in between - dunno about them that much. Then there's the issue of actually hitting, which Deft Opportunist helps with.
FntsyWlkr

01-25-07, 04:25 PM
Some thoughts:

1) Robiler's Gambit + Deft Opportunist:
Sure you open yourself up to an attack. But for EVERY attack you get a +8 AoO. Nice, when mixed with Power Attack.

2) Defensive Sweep + Thicket of Brambles:
They get an AoO if they don't move and they get an AoO if they do move.

3) Close Quarters Combat + Deft Opportunist:
Everytime they try to grapple you (even with a special feat) you get an AoO, and also get to add the damage to your grapple check.
altpersona

01-25-07, 06:00 PM
greater combat reflexs
karmic strike.
two weapon aoo

gcr = 3 aoo per targer
two weapon aoo = off hand weapon gets an added aoo , but not extra.

Edit: the wtf aoo might give you 3 instead of one, not sure. that would be ill.

thats 4 or 6 on one target.

karmic strike = you hit me , i get aoo.

full bab 20 with twf tree gets 8 attacks, add a dex with +8 mod and your doing 16 or more per dex... attacks , if your hit twice in a round.

i think monk can get 2 more with greater flurry, but getting the feats required for all of it is a trick. and might not be doable in 20 lvls.
BomTrady

01-25-07, 06:06 PM
Some thoughts:

1) Robiler's Gambit + Deft Opportunist:
Sure you open yourself up to an attack. But for EVERY attack you get a +8 AoO. Nice, when mixed with Power Attack.


I'm not sure how you get +8 on the AoO. Deft Opportunist gives you 4 and Robilar's Gambit gives a +4 bonus to your enemy.

Hold the Line is a good feat too. If you AoO all the time Side Step is nice, and Stand Still is pretty good too.

Edit: Where are Greater Combat Reflexes and Two Weapon AoO? I've never heard of these things and would like to : )
Animae_Draconum

01-25-07, 06:26 PM
The way I'm reading this is...

Robilar's Gambit
Karmic Strike
Double Hit
TW AoO

If an opponent scores just one hit on me I will then take the following actions for my 4 AoO's.

AoO 1. Main hand and off hand since double hit doesnt cause me to burn an AoO to use my off hand weapon when attacking with my main hand.

AoO 2. Off hand.

AoO 3. Main hand and off hand as in AoO 1.

AoO 4. Off hand

Am I reading all that right?

A_D
Animae_Draconum

01-25-07, 06:29 PM
Also thinking about Exploit Adjustment and Opportunistic Tactician.
catharz

01-25-07, 06:35 PM
AoO 1. Main hand and off hand since double hit doesnt cause me to burn an AoO to use my off hand weapon when attacking with my main hand.

AoO 2. Off hand.

AoO 3. Main hand and off hand as in AoO 1.

AoO 4. Off hand

Am I reading all that right?

Kind of. Technically, I think it goes like this:
1) Opponent succeeds at attacking you.
2) Interrupt: Take two Karmic Strikes (1 on-hand, one off-hand).
3) Opponent resolves attack against you.
4) Assuming you're still alive, take two Gambit attacks (1 on-hand, one off-hand).

So you're right about gaining four total attacks, but you're missing when your opponent gets to do what.
altpersona

01-25-07, 06:42 PM
karmic strike is from complete warrior

greater CR is from dragon #340 , p 87.
dirkformica

01-25-07, 08:51 PM
Not sure if this applies, but Polymorph into a variety of Hydra for the all heads attack on AOs.
BloodSpill

01-25-07, 09:18 PM
Two-Weapon AoO? Nevermind, it's on the same page as GCR.
altpersona

01-25-07, 10:08 PM
that is some evil stuff,

poly hydra, multifighting feat. gcr, just need dex mod 3x headcount.

dont know thats really doable , too bad all MM hydras are dex 12.